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Sea of Thieves - (Good & Bad) Review Thread
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I played it quite a bit too. Didn't like it, but I played it. It had quests, bosses, tons of hero classes, loot, a story, voiced NPCs, the hub town, etc. And it looked great as well. Definitely a more solid foundation than what I've read about SoT. I haven't played yet though so I'll reserve final judgment.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
No Man's Sky lost all their credibility by over promising so that in itself is a bit different. I know you've been on this game like flies on shit, and while ww both agree this game is shallow, your pessimism goes deep.
There's too much invested here for them to walk away. I know EA did in the last Mass Effect but Microsoft needs a new IP to bolster its lean line up. Game Pass will be used as leverage to keep the game going. Microsoft can always use those numbers as a reason to support it. I think they have a long term plan much like Activision and Destiny.
Revolutionary
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VertigoOA
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Destiny actually launched with content, 3-man strikes, competitive pvp, loot hooks, and challenging end game activities including a full fledge raid.
Let’s stop this this revisionist history bullshit. Sea of thieves is less than patrolling a single zone in D1, but with less engaging things do to and one boring as enemy to fight with garbage combat tools.
The comparisons to launch D1 and Division is completely laughable. I feel bad for anyone paying more than the game pass fee for SoT.!
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KanameYuuki
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I'm quite surprised people had such high hopes for this game, when every single information released was the same all over again, especially on a world post No Man's Sky, when will people learn to buy actual products instead of promises specially from a big corporations, Hopefully the future is kind to people who decided to pay $60 for it so they actually get something worth for their money down the line, I would have been so pissed.
hiphopcr
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Hey, the title is the first few reviews. And that was/is accurate! I just copied from metacritic c'mon guys!
Zimmy68
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And you told all of us that the reviews are exactly what we hoped for.
Ummm, thanks?
Can you please post if the Far Cry 5 and God of War reviews will be what I hope for?
thelastword
Banned
I see 6 reviews on Sea of Thieves on metacritic atm, averaging 67, Is op saying that's what he expected from SOT from the outset?
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hiphopcr
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Hey if you didn't like it no one forced you to click in and participate.
ohhh... you again. Welcome back?
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I dont want to get too off topic, but I think its fair to say they are pretty close but Fable lacked a real core concept of "fun" imo. WHereas sea of theives has a huge lack of content right now, there is a lot of fun to be had. I am not sure I had any real fun while playing Legends, and it felt like it was riding the hype of the 4V1 style stuff that was going on at the time in the industry.
Silent Viper
Banned
Really sad to sea these reviews. I worried for Rare now. I wonder why nothing working for MS this gen?
All new Xbox IPs failing? Sunset, Ryse, Quantum Break, Recore and now Sea of thieves? Only new first party published successful IP is Ori this gen, rest all failed to hit the mark.
That's crazy and I feel very bad as I love Xbox and all the Xbox services offer like Game Pass, BC and GWG nd all.
All new Xbox IPs failing? Sunset, Ryse, Quantum Break, Recore and now Sea of thieves? Only new first party published successful IP is Ori this gen, rest all failed to hit the mark.
That's crazy and I feel very bad as I love Xbox and all the Xbox services offer like Game Pass, BC and GWG nd all.
Silent Viper
Banned
Why NMS comparison? Rare was very transparent with SoT. They were following open community feedback model and had multiple betas and clearly told everyone that it's sandbox pirate game with emergent gameplay, where every player creates his or her own story with friends while exploring vast waters of sea of thieves. They never said crazy made up things like NMS devs said. NMS devs literally lied about stuff but Rare never lied or promised anything which is not in game.
I understand you are disappointed but you guys going bit overboard with hate and this NMS comparison is just wrong in every way.
I agree with your last point. That and the smart glass wave (remember that fad) with the boss enemy placement and everything. Still, I think it's useful to compare and remember the two together, not only for their both being UK developed games but also (if the stories are true) for their troubled and prolonged developments.
Anyway.
WaterAstro
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I'm not going to get into No Man's Sky because there is a warning. I'll just say you, and many other people, are wrong about No Man's Sky.
And if you haven't read newer reviews and new GAF responses, I'd say I'm right on the ball with my pre-launch analysis. It's not about being pessimistic. Why are you obligated to be optimistic for a company? I see that the game is factually lacking content, and I talk about it. We discuss about upcoming games to let each other know if it's worth buying or not. You can certainly see people here feeling like they got ripped off.
I'm not sure how you can say they can't walk away after spending a lot of money, especially when it's Microsoft. They do this all the time, and they do it outside of games. Remember their billion dollar investment in a stupid Kin phone that they literally stop support on the week it launched? Getting back to games, Scalebound was years in production, and they canned that. Same with Fable Legends. Microsoft enjoys burning money, and they're not afraid of bailing out on a failed project. People should be wary about this if they're planning to invest in Sea of Thieves hoping that there will be future updates. Right now, they haven't shown anything that's coming, and this game needs it.
demigod
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You copied in progress, not actual reviews with scores.
Op expected 85+, this was his pre-emptive attack to the naysayers until it actually came out and hit him in the head.
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ThatOneGrunt
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Geeze I really enjoyed all of those games. I genuinely want a sequel to Sunset and my brother and I have really been enjoying Sea of Thieves. I'm happy MS still made those games.
TheDuskwalker
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But Sunset was actually a really good game though!
Sadly no one actually bothered to buy it. :/
demigod
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I haven't played Sunset and Recore, but Quantum Break is one of the best games I've ever played and unbelievably visually impressive. Ryse was great fun.
The Bloody-Nine
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I did and you are correct, it was great.
RiccochetJ
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I've spent a decent amount of time with this game now and I think the comparisons to NMS is apt except I don't think Rare ever blatantly lied about what their game was.
I honestly think my nephew will absolutely love Sea of Thieves based on how I've seen him and his friends play Minecraft and even Forza Horizon 3. They just point in a direction and go and make their own fun.
For me though, I need a lot more than what this game is providing right now. I've heard they don't really have a roadmap, but I sincerely hope they're putting one together because I'll drop this game faster than they can blink.
I honestly think my nephew will absolutely love Sea of Thieves based on how I've seen him and his friends play Minecraft and even Forza Horizon 3. They just point in a direction and go and make their own fun.
For me though, I need a lot more than what this game is providing right now. I've heard they don't really have a roadmap, but I sincerely hope they're putting one together because I'll drop this game faster than they can blink.
Calibos
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No Mans Sky - Single player space exploration game that is procedurally generated. Promised the universe and endless things to do. Developer driven hype.
Sea of Thieves - Co-Op driven pirate game that is hand crafted and has amazing water. Promised a great co-op experience with your friends. Media and the internet driven hype.
These two games are not comparable at all save for the fact that they are thin on content, NMS less so. Rare delivered what they have said all along for the most part...I am very bummed that they missed such great opportunities from my perspective, but this game will do well in some demographics. Hopefully, MS continues to support them and their other projects...What a let down of a week....
Sea of Thieves - Co-Op driven pirate game that is hand crafted and has amazing water. Promised a great co-op experience with your friends. Media and the internet driven hype.
These two games are not comparable at all save for the fact that they are thin on content, NMS less so. Rare delivered what they have said all along for the most part...I am very bummed that they missed such great opportunities from my perspective, but this game will do well in some demographics. Hopefully, MS continues to support them and their other projects...What a let down of a week....
wipeout364
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I played this game one day and had an excellent experience good team work, nice people, got some stuff done.
The next day I played it I joined 4 games and was literally thrown in the brig within a minute for nothing other than not being who they wanted to join the game.
I have totally done a 180 on this game Screw rare for allowing this mechanic and wasting my time I wish I could get a refund.
The last game I just left my guy in the brig and went out and had dinner as the guys were constantly insulting me( while I was in the brig ) and demanding I leave. At least when I came back an hour later I the ship was mine.
The next day I played it I joined 4 games and was literally thrown in the brig within a minute for nothing other than not being who they wanted to join the game.
I have totally done a 180 on this game Screw rare for allowing this mechanic and wasting my time I wish I could get a refund.
The last game I just left my guy in the brig and went out and had dinner as the guys were constantly insulting me( while I was in the brig ) and demanding I leave. At least when I came back an hour later I the ship was mine.
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sigrad
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Reviews are up on Metacritic. Seems it is going to be a very average game according to 6 reviews so far. Can't see it getting much better than what the score is now (67).
Sucks, I thought it looked really fun. But, I can see it getting boring after a couple of hours. They really need to add more diverse missions and some sort of story to follow when you aren't going on quests, and quick.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/sea-of-thieves?ref=hp
Sucks, I thought it looked really fun. But, I can see it getting boring after a couple of hours. They really need to add more diverse missions and some sort of story to follow when you aren't going on quests, and quick.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/sea-of-thieves?ref=hp
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sigrad
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Sounds like you played with a couple of dicks. Pretty sure that isn't the games fault. The brig is supposed to be used for teammates that don't know WTF they are doing and just dick around when you ask them to do shit.
nowhat
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Let us not turn this into platform wars, but...
...ouch, that was a harsh burn. Nice
...ouch, that was a harsh burn. Nice
nowhat
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That the game can randomly pair you up with a couple of dicks, and said dicks can basically lock you out of the game immediately, hoping for you to quit? That most definitely is a fault of game design. It's like the designers went out their way to make an online game, without actually realizing what online gaming can be at its worst (and if it is allowed to be at its worst, the internet/online community always delivers).
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wipeout364
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Problem is it’s being used to punish randoms that join the game and it’s happening a lot. Google brig and seas of thieves if you don’t believe me. It’s a terrible mechanic and frankly it’s turned me off the game very quickly. And for the record I didn’t even get to play as it happened within one to two minutes of joining.
sushisamurai30
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Louis Cyphre
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I bought Destiny 2 at launch and after a couple of weeks haven't touched it since. At least in this situation I'm only out $10 at most.
Did I suggest you need to be optimistic, I already agreed with you the game feels empty but at least I am giving the game a try and put my money where my mouth is. What are you doing besides repeating yourself over and over again, almost gleefully? You seem to have a bone to pick and we can all read between the lines with your anti-Microsoft attitude. I'm surprised you're not letting it all hang out and didn't bring up RRoD last generation. No wonder you want a megaphone in any Sea of Thieves topic. I also highly doubt Rare is going to go into hiding for months and not take interviews like Mr. Murray did either. You know, the guy you claim has all this integrity.
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digoutyoursoul
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Since the Alpha I never took to it, admired its water effects particularly at a sunrise/sunset, beautiful!! Didn't like much else.
Disappointed to see people on my Facebook/twitter giving each other abuse over not liking or liking the game. Said it before but I'm not in the 110% in Phil we trust camp, four years in im pretty underwhelmed and disappointed in their gaming announcements/first party line up.
Bored of hearing about services, controllers and updates too.
Disappointed to see people on my Facebook/twitter giving each other abuse over not liking or liking the game. Said it before but I'm not in the 110% in Phil we trust camp, four years in im pretty underwhelmed and disappointed in their gaming announcements/first party line up.
Bored of hearing about services, controllers and updates too.
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thelastword
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Hey, thanks, I've been around....
I saw that..........was it intentional?
Yet, there was also Super Lucky's Tale and Ryse at launch...Tbh, I love a hack and slasher, so I liked Ryse, too bad there will never be a sequel...I think though this gen has been at the folly of too much hype, it's the way this gen started with overhyping Titanfall, Evolve etc...at pretty much every outlet and I've seen a dominoe effect of it time and time again.......
I would assume some of the scores right now may be some of the best ones......I could have sworn Ubisoft pitched a similar title some time ago or was there also one in PS3/360 era....?
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I'd rather have a fine leather jacket
lefty1117
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You're right, you can't really compare it to NMS. NMS had more to do at launch.
RiccochetJ
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Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Welp, this is the second major disappointment of the year. Yet so bad that it might actually drive me to give MH another chance.
Sea of Grieves it is, a fucking PUBG on the seas where nobody is winning anything so they're just being assholes for no other reason but to be sociopaths. Answers received from the community were basically "Always keep an eye on the horizon" or "Get good" or "Just deal with it and move on" all of which do not address the fact that in such conditions nothing can ever be immersive or enjoyed and your time, which is far more precious than any ship, can pretty much be wasted on every single mission. This is the opposite of the adventure they depicted it as. I can play literally any other game in the world if I want to experience people being assholes for no reason. This makes me feel like State of Decay 2 might suck as well since apparently if you design a game with a "friend or foe" choice, 99% will choose coward griefer troll.
Guess I'll continue playing single player games, fighting games, and team vs team games since still no one has the balls to design anything different.
Sea of Grieves it is, a fucking PUBG on the seas where nobody is winning anything so they're just being assholes for no other reason but to be sociopaths. Answers received from the community were basically "Always keep an eye on the horizon" or "Get good" or "Just deal with it and move on" all of which do not address the fact that in such conditions nothing can ever be immersive or enjoyed and your time, which is far more precious than any ship, can pretty much be wasted on every single mission. This is the opposite of the adventure they depicted it as. I can play literally any other game in the world if I want to experience people being assholes for no reason. This makes me feel like State of Decay 2 might suck as well since apparently if you design a game with a "friend or foe" choice, 99% will choose coward griefer troll.
Guess I'll continue playing single player games, fighting games, and team vs team games since still no one has the balls to design anything different.
Lionel Richie
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Devs are doing these insufferable games because people like to watch streams of it. A lot of people watching streams of a game means you get free publicity. However, I think it's misguided and the jig is up early as hell if the gameplay isn't interesting enough. It's the FNAF conundrum. People might enjoy watching others getting scared to death when some shit jumps on their face, but not as many people enjoy, you know, actually playing the damn thing.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
In WoW you have a simple choice to make. If you want the chance of randomly getting ganked by a no-lifer while you're in the middle of doing anything at all, join a PvP server. If you prefer not to live in a sociopath world, you can do a PvE server and then if someone wants to PvP they need to have the integrity to formally challenge you to your face, the courage to be "trapped in the ring" with you, and if you don't accept, too fucking bad because we're human beings and common fucking respect is a thing. Yet conversely, if you want to randomly team up with someone and share monster XP just because you happen to be within 20 feet of each other, you can do that very easily because if you want to encourage healthy community you have to design it into the game.
I'd like to see Rare get a clue because SoT could be fantastic.
I'd like to see Rare get a clue because SoT could be fantastic.
Koala Driving a Ferrari
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OK, so this is just meant as some lighthearted humour, and I'm willing to bet many here will not get the reference (bah, younguns!), but those that do should get a chuckle out of it:
I shouldn't have laughed as hard as I did at that but damn...
Monkey Island ftw.
As a single-player only gamer, I really do hope that Rare decide to take the game environment of SoT as well as the art style and all of the mega bucks that Microsoft have been throwing in their faces and create a solid single player game based in the game world next time around.
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Silent Viper
Banned
I also really enjoyed Sunset, QB nd all. It's sad Xbox audience ignored all these games. Sales were so bad that we didn't even get a 4k patch for Sunset. I really want sequel of all these games.
When I look at top games on Xbox store then all I see is Gaas type games. This proves majority of Xbox audience are not into SP focused narrative driven games. Neogaf and Era audience will disagree but majority of Xbox audience who are not on internet forums will not buy SP focused linear narrative driven games. They prefer Gaas type games with open emergent gameplay or heavy multiplayer focused games.
bitbydeath
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NMS had the RPG system in place at launch so you could play for 50-100+ hours on levelling up your suit, gun and ship alone.
WaterAstro
Member
We should just drop NMS talk as request by the mod. People are using it incorrectly to try and make Sea of Thieves look better, but they're just two different things.
I just looked up the other big Sea of Thieves streamer from the beta, and I was surprised that even Summit1G is down on the game. With over 100k viewers during the beta, he was pretty gungho, playing it every day. Maybe it was because of the viewers, but he looked legit excited about playing despite the repetitiveness. I thought he would carry Sea of Thieves, at least, but he's already burnt. He mentioned it was probably because of the server problems, but he barely sees anyone to fight besides a group of stream snipers.
I just looked up the other big Sea of Thieves streamer from the beta, and I was surprised that even Summit1G is down on the game. With over 100k viewers during the beta, he was pretty gungho, playing it every day. Maybe it was because of the viewers, but he looked legit excited about playing despite the repetitiveness. I thought he would carry Sea of Thieves, at least, but he's already burnt. He mentioned it was probably because of the server problems, but he barely sees anyone to fight besides a group of stream snipers.
OK, so this is just meant as some lighthearted humour, and I'm willing to bet many here will not get the reference (bah, younguns!), but those that do should get a chuckle out of it:
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