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10 Cloverfield Lane |SPOILER THREAD -OT-Hybrid| It’s still not Voltron

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Basically only felt like it was connected to Cloverfield with Easter eggs, but I honestly don't mind. It was tense and well acted, and I actually enjoyed this way more than Cloverfield. John Goodman knocked it out of the park as Howard.

Very happy I got to experience this in theaters, I don't think watching it at home would have sold that last 15 minutes for me. I didn't mind Michelle going all Die Hard for the last act of the movie, but I can see that being a point where some people would have fault with the film. It shifts gears at and just keeps speeding up until the end.
 
Unicorn said:
Hahahaha that's so bad if that's the way they initially pushed it. Much better retconned as dropped from space as a tactic. Like, really, woken by a fallen satellite but not by NY commerce?
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Why would the aliens use it as a tactic when they clearly can just destroy the air?

Seems like a waste of resources for a species that is supposed to be more advanced than us.

I like the idea that the movies are completely separate.

Or if they are in the same universe... that one incident wasn't related to the other.
 
UltimaPooh said:
Why would the aliens use it as a tactic when they clearly can just destroy the air?

Seems like a waste of resources for a species that is supposed to be more advanced than us.

I like the idea that the movies are completely separate.

Or if they are in the same universe... that one incident wasn't related to the other.
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Well considering by the end of this movie people in Houston can fight these aliens and win, they aren't so omnipotent.

Although, I personally feel the invaders should be more powerful given their ability to travel distances of space. Their power seems potentially imbalanced as the bio warfare seemingly kills everyone but later revealed it's momentary gas and people survived. Though, that could again be some unreliable info from Howard and the mere 3 examples of the gas in the 2 pigs and woman.
 
I loved it. Including the ending. I was hoping a link to the original was going to come in the form of a radio broadcast at the end. I thought that along with the mention of Houston and Baton Rouge, they were going to mention something going on in New York. Not disappointed that they didn't though.
 
Unicorn said:
Well considering by the end of this movie people in Houston can fight these aliens and win, they aren't so omnipotent.

Although, I personally feel the invaders should be more powerful given their ability to travel distances of space. Their power seems potentially imbalanced as the bio warfare seemingly kills everyone but later revealed it's momentary gas and people survived. Though, that could again be some unreliable info from Howard and the mere 3 examples of the gas in the 2 pigs and woman.
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it was still only wave 2 with no real "troops"
wave 1 nuke type weapon
wave 2 hound with a nerve gas
wave 3 the airship in the clouds
 
Saw this yesterday, and I can't really decide if it was really, really good, or absolute pump.

It's a bit meta, and all the "leave the audience guessing" tropes come across a bit "film studenty".

Best film in a while, or pretentious tripe, I can't figure it out! (but I guess that's a good thing right?)
 
If they absolutely need to keep the alien stuff in, I would have ended the movie where she has to choose Houston or Baton Rouge. The lightning strike was a cool shot, though.

Unicorn said:
Well considering by the end of this movie people in Houston can fight these aliens and win, they aren't so omnipotent.
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If I wanted people to help fight the cause, i'd send out propaganda even if we weren't winning. The lightning strike hints towards this.
 
So was Howard murdering the girl a few years previous, him being a conspiracy nut job and the invasion happening all a coincidence?

My GF seems to think that he built the bunker KNOWING that something was going to happen, but him saying that it was the Russians? makes him wrong.

I was under the impression that he built it to basically kill women and isolate himself. The attack on earth just so happened at the same time.
 
MarkMclovin said:
So was Howard murdering the girl a few years previous, him being a conspiracy nut job and the invasion happening all a coincidence?

My GF seems to think that he built the bunker KNOWING that something was going to happen, but him saying that it was the Russians? makes him wrong.

I was under the impression that he built it to basically kill women and isolate himself. The attack on earth just so happened at the same time.
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He was a nut who just happend to be kinda right
 
Incredibly fun movie.

John Goodman is a beast.

The tonal shift was good. I thought it was clever/goofy/fun post-modernism and it was still tense too. You get a great movie set within the stage of a big-budget, cgi, multi-movie narrative. Punk rock.

I don't see the problem with the character choice being on the nose. It felt like the entire movie was about subtlety and mystery sizzling and popping until it becomes golden brown truth.

Half in the Bag said it should have ended when she got onto the truck, but I don't really feel like that would have done justice to her character arc.
 
BattleMonkey said:
He was a nut who just happend to be kinda right
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I could buy that if Emmett hadn't have said "Ask him about the mutant space worms from Mars", he was also a Navy Sat operator, I think he had a heads up.

I think he knew what was happening, and the fact that he (was probably) a kidnapper and a murderer was just a coincidence.
 
I'm not sure how an alien invasion is the same as thing as the country being attacked by another country?

For him to 'know' would mean he would have to know about a possible alien activity, and go from there. Knowing that another country could attack soon, is far easier to find out.

EDIT - Oh he was a Navy Satellite operator? I missed that. I guess the fact that him also being a murderer was just a coincidence then.
 
MarkMclovin said:
So was Howard murdering the girl a few years previous, him being a conspiracy nut job and the invasion happening all a coincidence?

My GF seems to think that he built the bunker KNOWING that something was going to happen, but him saying that it was the Russians? makes him wrong.

I was under the impression that he built it to basically kill women and isolate himself. The attack on earth just so happened at the same time.
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I was thinking, in this movie did Cloverfield 1 happen? Maybe Howard heard about the events in New York and knew the end was coming or something. Had the bunker built.
 
Good movie, not a great one but I had a nice moment with it.

One thing bothers me though: when the bad guy falls to the acid, he should be dead or really really messed up but he wasn't much affected, especially his face...
 
Saw this over the weekend and I'm pleasantly surprised at how good it turned out. John Goodman did a pretty damn good job at playing the unhinged dude you aren't sure you should trust or not, even the little body ticks of his were spot on in making the characters around him, and you the viewer, uneasy.

I will actually say the last section of the movie almost felt... not needed? Or I almost wouldn't have minded if it was an actual human war and fallout had destroyed most of the surface or something along those lines. It wasn't bad by any means and I actually enjoyed the look of the smaller creature but it almost felt like they had to tack that on to make the Cloverfield name worthwhile.

What this actually reminded me of was some episodes of the Twilight Zone and Outer Limits and I loved both those shows so this was right up my alley.
 
MarkMclovin said:
Hold on, really? The fuck did I just watch then?
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This movie is very purposefully not called Cloverfield 2, because it’s not Cloverfield 2, [...] So if you’re approaching it as a literal sequel, you’ll be surprised to see what this movie is. But while it’s not what you might expect from a movie that has the name Cloverfield in it, I think you’ll find that you’ll understand the connection when you see the whole thing."[38] Trachtenberg stated that 10 Cloverfield Lane does not take place in the same fictional universe as Cloverfield.
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I don't think it matters, either way, because both films are very different.
 
Oh right.

I thought I read somewhere that they were going to make several movies and make it into a franchise.

Either way, awesome movie.
 
I just watched the trailer again, and damn I want to watch the film again, I think there was a lot to take in that a second viewing will help see it all clearly.

It really is quite clever to link it to Cloverfield, but not link it.
 
Well I'll be damned, reading Reddit and the Cloverfield Blogspot about this film is mind blowing......so much info out there.
 
Absolutely loved the movie up until the point where she got out...

Then the predictable 'throw burning object in mouth of alien to destroy it' scenario played out which was pretty lame.

Goodman was awesome. I can totally see where they decided to transition this movie into the Cloverfield universe and sadly I think the movie suffered for it, but still was a great ride overall.
 
Walter White said:
I expected some kind of shenanigans like that at some point after she got out, but it still didn't work for me.
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The name in itself basically spoils the fact that they were gonna shoe horn in some ridiculous nonsense, but the rest of the movie was so damn good that it made it especially jarring for me. Zero subtly with that ending.
 
Solid SOAP said:
The name in itself basically spoils the fact that they were gonna shoe horn in some ridiculous nonsense, but the rest of the movie was so damn good that it made it especially jarring for me. Zero subtly with that ending.
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What's "subtle" about the movie that precedes the ending?
 
Solid SOAP said:
The name in itself basically spoils the fact that they were gonna shoe horn in some ridiculous nonsense, but the rest of the movie was so damn good that it made it especially jarring for me. Zero subtly with that ending.
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I don't know, I think using the aliens as metaphors for an abuse survivor entering the world and still dealing with PTSD was rather brilliant. It's not like she took down the entire army, there's still a shit-load of those fuckers out there. But she's re-entered the world anyway and wants to take all that trauma and turn it into something positive. Which is both life-affirming and tear jerking in equal measure.

Or, to put it another way, the film is a 'fuck you' to anxiety and PTSD. Which is really awesome from a genre-pic pseudo sequel to a film which wasn't really about anything except shit being destroyed and people running.
 
I liked it. Have to say I wasn't exactly sure the route the movie was gonna take after the lady at the door proved to Michelle that there was something wrong outside. I was sure the movie was just gonna be about John Goodman being an ass and holding them captive or something non-alien/monster related.

Now what comes first, an actual sequel to Cloverfield or a sequel to this move?
 
MarkMclovin said:
So was Howard murdering the girl a few years previous, him being a conspiracy nut job and the invasion happening all a coincidence?

My GF seems to think that he built the bunker KNOWING that something was going to happen, but him saying that it was the Russians? makes him wrong.

I was under the impression that he built it to basically kill women and isolate himself. The attack on earth just so happened at the same time.
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This is why the ending bothers me. I can't buy the coincidence that this psychopath who keeps kidnapping and killing girls who look like his daughter finds a new one, kidnaps her, and then aliens attack just in time to scare her into obedience. And it makes even less sense that now that he's found his perfect new daughter to hide away in his secret lair, that he'd let some other guy in to stay with them.

I think it could have played out better if they did one or the other. For example, he's not really a killer, or maybe he is a killer and is faking the aliens outside, and has this crazy lady as an accomplice in make-up pounding at the door outside. The movie could then focus more on trying to figure out what's really going on and giving us a single satisfying answer. That's what created a lot of the tension in the actual move: is he dangerous or is he right? But the answer in the end was: yes.

Doing both made it feel like the the supernatural stuff was tacked on to the end after the fact to justify using Cloverfield in the title and to appeal to fans of the first movie. It made me feel a little pandered-to.

All that said, I did enjoy it and had a hell of a ride. But that ending just isn't sticking with me.
 
In the theatre now. Going in blind. Havent seen a trailer or anything. All I know is that its not Cloverfield, and it's directed by jj. Wish me luck
 
Saw it tonight. Loved it. Loved the chemistry between John Goodman and Mary Elizabeth Winstead. There were times where it got a bit too tense for me, but for the most part, I genuinely loved it.

And I have no issue with how it ended. I figure they'll do one or two more anthology films ala 10 Cloverfield Lane before setting up the big one in the proper Cloverfield 2 down the line by 2019/2020?

By the way, am I the only one thinking the God Particle film that's under Bad Robot and was in the works at Insurge before the latter got canned is another Cloverfield anthology film somehow? I only found out about it after delving into the rabbit hole on 10CL after seeing the movie. It's not even shot yet nor have a cast, but is due to release next February.

Anyways, I'm in. Very much in for the future of Cloverfield.
 
I saw the movie last night and thought it was great. I was super tense through the whole movie, a feeling enhanced by the fact that I was the only person in the theater (early matinee showing at a small theater).

I'm a little bummed to learn the universes aren't linked. I was hoping that Clover was part of the 'first wave' they were talking about and that there were multiple of those monsters running around the major cities, but I guess not. Regardless, I really liked the movie.
 
This was alright. The ending was stupid. She blows up a giant alien ship with a molotov cocktail and her shower curtain hazmat suit protects her from a blanket of alien chemical weapons. Okay.

Also why didn't they just tell John Goodman that they were making a hazmat suit so that they could check if the air was still toxic in a year or two like he estimated. How is telling him that they were trying to steal his gun a better idea? Pretty stupid.
 
Carlisle said:
Doing both made it feel like the the supernatural stuff was tacked on to the end after the fact to justify using Cloverfield in the title and to appeal to fans of the first movie. It made me feel a little pandered-to.

All that said, I did enjoy it and had a hell of a ride. But that ending just isn't sticking with me.
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Again, without the ending, this is really no different than countless other "stuck in a bunker" movies. The sci-fi implications throughout the movie and then the completely gonzo ending are what really elevates this amongst its peers. It's a movie that makes you question which is which - is this a sci-fi/apocalypse movie, or is it a slasher/horror/thriller? You don't know for sure which one it is until right before the last act, and then during the last act, it pulls away the curtain and shows it was actually both.

If you want tacked-on, go watch Hidden (2015), it's basically the same premise with a twist ending that is completely ridiculous and not supported by the rest of the film whatsoever.

The scene with the UFO over the cornfield is still burnt into my memory, and I think it's as effective as the birthday alien encounter scene from Signs.
 
I quite liked the fact you could predict the final twist but still be surprised by it as in "oh shit I can't believe they had the balls to go there"
 
CD'S BAR said:
Also why didn't they just tell John Goodman that they were making a hazmat suit so that they could check if the air was still toxic in a year or two like he estimated. How is telling him that they were trying to steal his gun a better idea? Pretty stupid.
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Because he was a possessive, kidnapping, murderous creepo fixated on Michelle and they knew it. Remeber that game where he couldn't figure out that Michelle was a "woman", where he called her "Little Princess"? How he'd given his dead daughter / victim's shirt to Michelle?

I thought Emmet's plan was actually pretty good. "I want her to respect me like she respects you" was the kind of pandering that just might have worked. He didn't quite grovel enough to get out of looking like a rival tho.
 
Why did the whole Megan storyline not go anywhere? Seems like they spent a lot of time discussing it for it to go unresolved...

Or are we supposed to assume that he kidnapped "Brittany" and she died upstairs with the air filtration unit?
 
Brakke said:
Because he was a possessive, kidnapping, murderous creepo fixated on Michelle and they knew it. Remeber that game where he couldn't figure out that Michelle was a "woman", where he called her "Little Princess"? How he'd given his dead daughter / victim's shirt to Michelle?
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Why does that make stealing his gun a better lie though? They can still try to escape with the suit but why not tell him they are going to use it for their common good in a couple years?
 
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