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2011 US Open Thread of Pushin' it to the Limit

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Speevy said:
They're all jackasses when you catch them on a bad day.
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Yeap. We've all seen Federer when he's super gracious after defeat as well. But people don't like remembering those moments for whatever reason.
 
Eurosport replayed the last few games from Fed/Joker and I finally saw the matchpoint return. I can definitely see that it wasn't all luck, maybe 30-40% at best, because he still had to take that step to the right. It's basically just an amazing reflex from what I could follow. It was damn fast and I was even prepared for it to come. It was at the right place at the right time (time being in milliseconds :p).

If I was Nole I'd thank my lucky stars because if it was me there I'd say divine intervention was at play and helped change the match around during that exact point.
 
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What.
The.
Fuck.

On the doubles final, one of the teams wins a point (yes the referee didn't see this so he gave them the point) with a LEG half voley. Ball hits guy's leg, lands in on the other side... Obviously the other team saw the ball hit the leg. But because of the angle the ref didn't see, so nothing comes out of talking to him. They ask the team directly if the guy hit the ball with his racket. He basically says nothing. What a fucking sportsmanship right there. Wow.

They got a break point out of it nd are now up 6-2, 5-2.


Eit: Nilbog can probably can explain this better than me. They won 6-2, 6-2 just now btw.
 
-bakalhau- said:
What.
The.
Fuck.

On the doubles final, one of the teams wins a point (yes the referee didn't see this so he gave them the point) with a LEG half voley. Ball hits guy's leg, lands in on the other side... Obviously the other team saw the ball hit the leg. But because of the angle the ref didn't see, so nothing comes out of talking to him. They ask the team directly if the guy hit the ball with his racket. He basically says nothing. What a fucking sportsmanship right there. Wow.

They got a break point out of it nd are now up 6-2, 5-2.


Eit: Nilbog can probably can explain this better than me. They won 6-2, 6-2 just now btw.
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He definitely said it didn't touch him
 
Melzer/Petz were going to win this anyway, after that first set, but yeah that was pretty fucking shady. No way you don't know the ball hit you like that.
 
Where can I watch the replay of the women's semifinals? I tried to record but everything was so delayed that I only caught the first 15 mins.
 
What's with all the Federer hate? Haters like Mimic love to kick now that he's down and claim he's always been a sore loser but that's total BS. When you interview any player right after a loss there's a sense of frustration there and it shows through. Don't give me this crap that Nadal has always been a gracious loser in post match interviews, remember Soderling at the French? Sure Fed was upset but his comments were bang on, the shot Djokovic made was a total chance on match point it could have easily lost the match for him.
 
Manics said:
What's with all the Federer hate? Haters like Mimic love to kick now that he's down and claim he's always been a sore loser but that's total BS. When you interview any player right after a loss there's a sense of frustration there and it shows through. Don't give me this crap that Nadal has always been a gracious loser in post match interviews, remember Soderling at the French? Sure Fed was upset but his comments were bang on, the shot Djokovic made was a total chance on match point it could have easily lost the match for him.
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People like to rag on great players when they don't win, simple as that.
 
Teetris said:
Eurosport replayed the last few games from Fed/Joker and I finally saw the matchpoint return. I can definitely see that it wasn't all luck, maybe 30-40% at best, because he still had to take that step to the right. It's basically just an amazing reflex from what I could follow. It was damn fast and I was even prepared for it to come. It was at the right place at the right time (time being in milliseconds :p).

If I was Nole I'd thank my lucky stars because if it was me there I'd say divine intervention was at play and helped change the match around during that exact point.
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Djoker knows what he was doing. The numbers speak for themselves. :)

Points won returning 1st serve
1. Murray - 37%, 42 matches
2. Djokovic - 36%, 59 matches
3. Nadal - 35%, 61 matches
9. Federer - 33%, 52 matches

Points won returning 2nd serve
1. Nadal - 58%, 61 matches
2. Djokovic - 58%, 59 matches
4. Murray - 56%, 42 matches
20. Federer - 51%, 52 matches

Break points converted
3. Nadal - 47%, 61 matches
4. Djokovic - 47%, 59 matches
14. Muray - 45%, 42 matches
47. Federer - 39%, 52 matches

Return games won
1. Djokovic - 39%, 59 matches
2. Murray - 37%, 42 matches
3. Nadal - 35%, 61 matches
16. Federer - 26%, 52 matches
 
MIMIC said:
Djoker knows what he was doing. The numbers speak for themselves. :)

Points won returning 1st serve
1. Murray - 37%, 42 matches
2. Djokovic - 36%, 59 matches
3. Nadal - 35%, 61 matches
9. Federer - 33%, 52 matches

Points won returning 2nd serve
1. Nadal - 58%, 61 matches
2. Djokovic - 58%, 59 matches
4. Murray - 56%, 42 matches
20. Federer - 51%, 52 matches

Break points converted
3. Nadal - 47%, 61 matches
4. Djokovic - 47%, 59 matches
14. Muray - 45%, 42 matches
47. Federer - 39%, 52 matches

Return games won
1. Djokovic - 39%, 59 matches
2. Murray - 37%, 42 matches
3. Nadal - 35%, 61 matches
16. Federer - 26%, 52 matches
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He's the luckiest guy on earth. Imagine what would happen if he worked hard, like Federer.
 
chuckddd said:
He's the luckiest guy on earth. Imagine what would happen if he worked hard, like Federer.
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He doesn't go for winners on those % points won. Nobody normally does. If a player tried for a winner on each return he'd get run off the court because more often then not you won't make the shot. Normally the men just block the serve back. Sure he's won 36% of first serves back which means he's lost 64% of the points. It's no stretch to say he was lucky that the all out attempt at a winner worked.
 
Manics said:
He doesn't go for winners on those % points won. Nobody normally does. If a player tried for a winner on each return he'd get run off the court because more often then not you won't make the shot. Normally the men just block the serve back. Sure he's won 36% of first serves back which means he's lost 64% of the points. It's no stretch to say he was lucky that the all out attempt at a winner worked.
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but it's also a product of thousands of hours of practice and experience, unlike what Fed said. it's amazing that he said he never tried to play that way, as if he's never been in a completely defensive position and relied on reflex or instinct to flick the ball back across the court.
 
scorcho said:
but it's also a product of thousands of hours of practice and experience, unlike what Fed said. it's amazing that he said he never tried to play that way, as if he's never been in a completely defensive position and relied on reflex or instinct to flick the ball back across the court.
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I agree with you. I think Fed SHOULD take more risks like that. The last few years he seems to be way too conservative the way he plays. Always going to the slice backhand during rallys, not going for winners at key times. Maybe it's a mental thing with his approach to the game and when he sees someone else go for an outright winner when he's facing match point he doesn't understand that mentality cause its too risky in his mind. I don't think his post match interview shows he's a sore loser though.
 
Manics said:
I agree with you. I think Fed SHOULD take more risks like that. The last few years he seems to be way too conservative the way he plays. Always going to the slice backhand during rallys, not going for winners at key times. Maybe it's a mental thing with his approach to the game and when he sees someone else go for an outright winner when he's facing match point he doesn't understand that mentality cause its too risky in his mind. I don't think his post match interview shows he's a sore loser though.
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I agree with this.

Fed played beautifully throughout the match (Well, except at key points where could have put the Djokavic away or prevented him from winning a set), but he did play way too conservatively, only really going for shots he knew he could make when he should have taken some chances. Too often in the match he had Djoker on the far side of the court BEHIND the baseline and instead of taking his chances and going up the line he sliced backhanded that ball right to his strike zone, enabling him to put the ball away.

Djoker came back because he threw caution to the wind, went balls to the wall, and started playing gut tennis. It's how Tsonga beat him, too.

Physically, Fed can still play tennis like a guy half a decade younger than him. It's in his head where his age is starting to show.
 
Sam is making Serena work. Bout to serve for the set up a double break

Serena looks nervous though. Stosur is rock solid.
 
Yeah, this is looking bad for Serena. Can't see her winning in three.
 
OMG!

"Are you the one that screwed me over last time?"
 
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