Which is the cleaner/better option for AA in the control panel between SGSSAA and the normal SSAA options?
Seen as i can't downsample (which i'd say felt smoother than forced AA) i have to go with the above.
SSAA should be ( with few exceptions ) cleaner than sgssaa every time, the one that is better is the one that let's you maintain 30/60/120 fps whilst eliminating the jaggies. Which more often than not is sgssaa since it's less taxing than ssaa when used correctly.
Oddly enough I've never gotten SSAA to work via inspector, ever. Don't know what I was doing wrong but by then I just said screw it and went with SSAA.
You mean SGSSAA here, right? did you see my comment about the U2711 on the last page, by any chance?
I think the only game i know SSAA was wokring was Skyrim as my frame-rate absolutely nuked - although VRAM usage was nowhere near the 2GB buffer of the 680 - it was like it was hitting the shading power too. SGSSAA works fine in it too, though, so i tend to go with that.
Also, i need to play through the PC version of Alan Wake. It's amazing how much more atmosphere the game appears to have just by looking a lot sharper compared to the 360.
Yes I meant sgssaa, too many acronyms hah.
Went back and read it, I must say very interesting to see you can manage 3840x2160 since I couldn't go 1 pixel above 2560x1440 on my dell u2711 regardless of refresh rate. I'm assuming the gpu plays a bigger role than the monitor itself?
Yeah I've encountered that issue as well, only custom resolutions that show of up for me in almost every game are the ones with 60 hz. A recent example was bf3 where I couldn't get my 3800x2100~ res to show up because it was set to 49 hz or something so I stop bothering.
The monitor i had before hand was a U2311 and could do 3840*2160 fine IIRC, if not, definitely 3200*1800 - so the GPU can definitely hit it.
As for your experience of the U2711 versus mine, how was you conencted? I'm using DP at the minute but the results are the same with DL-DVI too. I've not tried HDMI but then i don't believe it has the bandwidth to run 1440@60 does it?
I didnt need to know he loses an arm, true indeed i dont know how he loses it, but now as im playing the game ill be sitting there waiting for this moment to happen......it detracts from my enjoyment, thing is it wasnt even that good a screenshot really, the game looks practically the same from EP1 all the way through to 5, there was no need to post something so big and blatant
Call me a bitch or whatever, but spoilers for the sake of spoiling shit is damn inconsiderate, i dont even post substantial spoilers for old games.
At the end of the day, this is a thread to display pretty in game screenshots. If a screenshot might be spoilery but otherwise looks nice, why wouldn't you take a screenshot of it? Isn't that overalll the point?If you haven't played the game, then spoiler may be devoid of context, but even an hour in, a screenshot of a moment yet to occur speaks loads. I does happens that one ends up deducting the entire plot from a single picture if one has been paying any attention to the game.
It's too bad that not only am I not personally invested in the setting of AC3 (the American revolution is incredibly dull compared to other historical settings and American media have already depicted the setting ad naseum for us non-Americans), but I also find lighting in the shots to making me yawn, because it reduces the atmosphere.
I.e. an increase in post-processing effects and particle emitters would go a long way for the game to look much more interesting and atmospheric instead of dull and lifeless, imo.
Just TXAA, doesn't that add some blur? Outside of that it's straight from Fraps (after bmp-png conversion through abload).
It does but I didn't recall it being that much. Maybe I'm just seeing things. Mine probably aren't much better.
Yeah I agree. They should have gone with the french revolution, now that would be great, so many fascinating things happened during that period.It's too bad that not only am I not personally invested in the setting of AC3 (the American revolution is incredibly dull compared to other historical settings and American media have already depicted the setting ad naseum for us non-Americans), but I also find lighting in the shots to making me yawn, because it reduces the atmosphere.
Again, only if you actually do it at obscenely high resolutions (which most posters aren't, near as I can tell).Eh? It's by definition the most thorough form of AA ( super sampling ) and as such yes it is mroe performance hungry. For me it's the goto AA, I even use downsampling before I start using ingame AA since most modern solutions are nonexistent / shite out of the box.
This doesn't even make sense to me. The whole point of using a sparse grid is to save performance. If that isn't happening, what is even the point of using SGSSAA?Same here, and for what it's worth I think downsampling from ~~3840x2160 looks much better than X xSGSSAA that would be the equivalent of the same res. Dishonored was a good example of this.
Again, only if you actually do it at obscenely high resolutions (which most posters aren't, near as I can tell).
This doesn't even make sense to me. The whole point of using a sparse grid is to save performance. If that isn't happening, what is even the point of using SGSSAA?
...looks much better than...
Is that so? I admit I haven't even tried it (outside of Planetside 2, which conveniently lets you do it through the .ini file) simply because it takes so much bloody work to do (I can't even set the refresh rate to anything less than 59 through the drivers).You don't need "obscenely" high resolutions for the effects of downsampling to beat any AA out there.
You said "same here" in response to this quote:It's not making sense because you're not reading it right, in the part you've quoted I say SSAA looks better than SGSSAA what about that doesn't make sense? I didn't mention performance there.
I've always found downsampling to be WAY less of a performance hog than SGSSAA.
Is that so? I admit I haven't even tried it (outside of Planetside 2, which conveniently lets you do it through the .ini file) simply because it takes so much bloody work to do (I can't even set the refresh rate to anything less than 59 through the drivers).
You said "same here" in response to this quote: So yeah, I'm still scratching my head here.
I'm well aware that sgssaa is supposed to be less taxing than ssaa (downsampling)
Make sure with AC3, CODBO2, and TSW that you have the 310.54 beta driver. That driver did get the blur dialed back compared to the prior driver. Also with CODBO2 make sure to turn off Ambient Occlusion, as AO massively increases blur when TXAA is on (bug in the TXAA integration with AO). There might be similar problems with AC3, just I haven't played AC3 yet.The blur (with TXAA) is still a little too heavy but if that gets dialed back a bit it'll be great.
Get the 310.54 beta driver. Grab the NVIDIA Inspector. Then choose 4xTXAA in game in the AA option, and before starting the game set the following settings in the NVIDIA Inspector,But I'm curious to try TXAA + 4xSGSSAA. How to set that?
Ooohhh, this is fascinating. I'd love to hear the details about this, I'm very curious!Comparing 4xSGSSAA vs 4xOGSSAA (downsampling), the downsampling is much more efficient for shading. The higher the triangle density, the more efficient downsampling is compared to SGSSAA. This has to do with how the GPU packs pixel and samples for shading, downsampling packs much better. If anyone is interested I'll go into the details. The only time 4xSGSSAA will be faster than 4xOGSSAA is when for some reason the game's post processing runs at 1x (no MSAA) with 4xSGSSAA (compared to the 4x cost on driver enabled 4xOGSSAA downsampling). Note, some games with built-in in-game 4xOGSSAA might be running post processing at 1x, which will always be faster than driver forced 4xSGSSAA. Also 4xTrSSAA should be faster than 4xOGSSAA, but the shading quality of 4xTrSSAA won't be nearly as good.
Is there no need to set an lod bias if it runs with TXAA?
Ooohhh, this is fascinating. I'd love to hear the details about this, I'm very curious!