It seems to me Nintendo made a very wise choice. Their output is horrendous. MS has almost nothing to show for the investment.
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"2015 is a HUGE year for Rare", says Robin Beanland
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It seems to me Nintendo made a very wise choice. Their output is horrendous. MS has almost nothing to show for the investment.
Salty Hippo
Member
Is it horrendous because you don't like anything they came out with
PRETTY sure their 360 output was incredibly well received
Salty Hippo
Member
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Yeah but it wasn't rare that Nintendo could have used, its the rights to all of their games
I'd love to see a new Banjo, like many others would. But just to be a little different, it'd be great to see what a Jet Force Gemini sequel would look like on the One's hardware, what with the massive variety in locations and planets. Banjo seems to make the most sense though, probably their most requested game at this point.
I'm excited whatever it is anyway, I wouldn't agree that the Rare 'soul' or talent was gone. I loved the heck out of their 360 games and a lot of the old Rare staff are still there. There's always new talent in the industry anyway.
I'm excited whatever it is anyway, I wouldn't agree that the Rare 'soul' or talent was gone. I loved the heck out of their 360 games and a lot of the old Rare staff are still there. There's always new talent in the industry anyway.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Honestly, UE4 powered Banjo will be a sight to behold.
Although it is disappointing that RARE aren't using their own engine any more. KSR looked fantastic and their engines last gen were superb.
Although it is disappointing that RARE aren't using their own engine any more. KSR looked fantastic and their engines last gen were superb.
GameGuru59
Banned
Rare was worth it if only for the IP's. Think how much better the GCN era would have been with Banjo, Conker, Perfect Dark, Jet Force, and a new FPS from Rare to fill in the gaps. Even if they had to fire the entire staff and start from scratch, it would have been worth it. Moreover, I was under the impression that the majority of Rare's staff left after the sale because they hated Microsoft. I know the reason for the sale was that the Stampers wanted to pull out and sell their portion of the stock to Nintendo or something and Nintendo thought the price was too high (it wasn't). At that point, the staff was still there I think- which is moot because Rare was worth it for the IP's alone.
I'd say it was for a gritty Reboot of RC Pro AM Racing
Patapwn
Member
I think they should keep it traditional for a comeback. If they want to experiment after that I'm fine but prove that banjo 3 can be done first
SEGAvangelist
Member
UE4 integrates new technologies into their engine, though, so at least RARE still has the opportunity to add their own tech much like Lionhead did.
It's very well documented that Rare wasn't a very good place to work even in the Nintendo years, there seemed to be a lot of bad blood between people. Rare's last output with Nintendo wasn't great either and is considered one of their weakest titles.
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
Clanker being even more absolutely frightening?
Honestly, Rare is a shell of it's former self now. The developer just isn't the same anymore; the talent is mostly gone. I'm curious to see what they have in store but I'm keeping my expectations VERY low.
Not talking about quality. It's frequency that's the issue. IPs are worthless if they aren't leveraged. Rare has done little to invalidate Nintendos decision to dump them.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Exactly how I feel.
Yeah, agreed. Banjo would be the most popular (and well known) choice amongst their audience, it seems like the best option.
So what do these notes represent?
https://soundcloud.com/richjarman/rare-thing
I'd say......
Phil Spencer's new entrance music.
https://soundcloud.com/richjarman/rare-thing
I'd say......
Phil Spencer's new entrance music.
IDKAboutThat
Member
Alright, Microsoft. What do you have for us? I would be talking to Rare, but Rare is a sock puppet.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Quit beating the horse to death. Yes, we all know that many of you believe rare is no longer rare. There are so many relies with that laced in it. It maddening to see every rare thread littered with that comment.
If they are making another Banjo, I hope they've gotten over their whole "Oh no we can't make Banjo a platformer because it won't sell, it has to be innovative!!" phase they were in when they made N&B.
I enjoyed Nuts & Bolts for what it was, but it wasn't a Banjo game at heart. It would've been great as a new IP rather than tacking on Banjo stuff. The question is whether or not Rare still has it in them to make a true Banjo game, and I'm not sure that they do. We'll see though.
I enjoyed Nuts & Bolts for what it was, but it wasn't a Banjo game at heart. It would've been great as a new IP rather than tacking on Banjo stuff. The question is whether or not Rare still has it in them to make a true Banjo game, and I'm not sure that they do. We'll see though.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Nah. They started leaving in 2009/2010. Rare was fairly intact up until then.
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
Want to be proved wrong.
Pretty much. It's impossible to get excited about anything Rare these days. Specially after the shitshow that was showing Conker during the Project Spark reveal. Assholes.
Ghost_Messiah
Member
I haven't.... but I've posted it so others can take their best guess.
SEGAvangelist
Member
This video never gets old.
Michanical
Member
I'm going to remain cautiously excited about this. Even if it is a new Banjo or Conker game, it doesn't mean they have the talent to make something special with.
Gimme some Banjo. And hopefully Sony counters with crash
The sign post in this PlayStation 4 advertisement is no accident (observe also the taxi driver). To suggest otherwise is absurd. I honestly believe Sony held back the Crash Bandicoot announcement to counter what Rare are doing. So a good year all around, I reckon.
Could it be Jet Force Gemini main theme?
Jet Force Gemini remake (Rare/4J Studios) or a sequel with orchestrated music (This is a HUGE year for Rare... and these notes)?
ChosenPredator
Banned
I have a feeling someone here is gonna end up cracking what it is
unless it's an original IP
unless it's an original IP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44NGCeb6v2U&feature=youtu.be
This video has the notes that the composer was depicting in the tweet, Really not much to go on at all.
This video has the notes that the composer was depicting in the tweet, Really not much to go on at all.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
It's strange. It's like Microsoft this gen (and a little bit towards the end of last gen) took the playbook on "How to fuck up your gaming console brand" and made sure they checked every box.
Rare is a prime example of this. They could easily put a foot towards getting the Xbox One back in the game with all the Rare IPs they're sitting on. If they:
- Make Banjo 3. I'm pretty sure there's a decent market for a good, old school collect a thon 3D platformer.
- Perfect Dark 2 in the Samaritan Demo setting.
- Jet Force Gemini. This could almost be their "Gears for Kids" if you will depending on how well they do it.
- Battletoads. Something for the hardest of the hardcore.
- Get Rare to make a Kart racer or Wave Racer game. Kinect Sports Rivals show they know EXACTLY how to make a new Wave Race, get them to fucking make one.
Microsoft isn't in a postition to bank on nothing but blockbusters. I know that's what they prefer but right now they need to give the public more and more reasons to make the Xbox One library a library worth looking into. The above games would go a huge way to doing that.
Rare is a prime example of this. They could easily put a foot towards getting the Xbox One back in the game with all the Rare IPs they're sitting on. If they:
- Make Banjo 3. I'm pretty sure there's a decent market for a good, old school collect a thon 3D platformer.
- Perfect Dark 2 in the Samaritan Demo setting.
- Jet Force Gemini. This could almost be their "Gears for Kids" if you will depending on how well they do it.
- Battletoads. Something for the hardest of the hardcore.
- Get Rare to make a Kart racer or Wave Racer game. Kinect Sports Rivals show they know EXACTLY how to make a new Wave Race, get them to fucking make one.
Microsoft isn't in a postition to bank on nothing but blockbusters. I know that's what they prefer but right now they need to give the public more and more reasons to make the Xbox One library a library worth looking into. The above games would go a huge way to doing that.
You'll get shit and be damned grateful for the opportunity.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I have the perfect justification: It's Banjo.The selfish me hopes it isn't Banjo yet. I'm wasn't planning on buying an XBO until current gen nears its end, but Banjo-Threeie would make me reconsider. And I'm not sure how to justify 400 for one game.
While I'd be happy about a new Crash Bandicoot and would buy a PS4 for it if it does not release on any platform I own, Crash is no match for Banjo
.black_spear
Neo Member
If you would have asked him about 2014 one year ago, he would have answered the same. I’m sure.
Once Kinect was moved to a second role in the Xbox One policy, RARE had to be used to develop ordinary projects again. So, I’m not surprised. It’s what they have to do.
Once Kinect was moved to a second role in the Xbox One policy, RARE had to be used to develop ordinary projects again. So, I’m not surprised. It’s what they have to do.
2015, the year Banjo-Threeie was finally announced.
I just want to see it.
Although, Beanland being a composer and dropping all these hints leads me to believe Grant Kirkhope won't be composing the soundtrack for whatever this is. If it really is Banjo, that's kind of disappointing since his memorable tunes from BK & BT were a big part of why I loved the games. But regardless, if it's a new Banjo, I'm interested.
I just want to see it.
Although, Beanland being a composer and dropping all these hints leads me to believe Grant Kirkhope won't be composing the soundtrack for whatever this is. If it really is Banjo, that's kind of disappointing since his memorable tunes from BK & BT were a big part of why I loved the games. But regardless, if it's a new Banjo, I'm interested.
While I'd be happy about a new Crash Bandicoot and would buy a PS4 for it if it does not release on any platform I own, Crash is no match for Banjo
Perspective is a funny thing.