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Boney said:
There will be lots of catching up then mister!

I just want to know the release date... fuck the price.

Yep. Before there's even a release date of the system I have a list of backlogged DS games I need to get. :lol
 
Boney said:
So how do you expect to play anything with augmented reality?

I actually wrote two previews that dealt with this very subject!

Target Shooting Hands-On (Nintendo 3DS)
http://www.gamexplain.com/article-148-1276728398-e3-2010-target-shooting-nintendo-3ds.html

3D Paddle Ball Hands-On (Nintendo 3DS)
http://www.gamexplain.com/article-181-1277162309-e3-2010-3d-paddle-ball-hands-on-nintendo-3ds.html

Neither demo involved tilting the system. As long as you keep the system level with your face, you can move the system (as in Target Shooting) as much as you want without compromising the 3D effect.
 
Somnid said:
I see no mention of the inferred port.
Oh man I had completely forgotten about that.

redbarchetta said:
I actually wrote two previews that dealt with this very subject!

3D Paddle Ball Hands-On (Nintendo 3DS)
http://www.gamexplain.com/article-148-1276728398-e3-2010-target-shooting-nintendo-3ds.html

3D Paddle Ball Hands-On (Nintendo 3DS)
http://www.gamexplain.com/article-181-1277162309-e3-2010-3d-paddle-ball-hands-on-nintendo-3ds.html

Neither demo involved tilting the system. As long as you keep the system level with your face, you can move the system (as in Target Shooting) as much as you want without compromising the 3D effect.
I stand corrected and defeated. Do with me as you please.
 
2 things:

-the 3DS game cards may use holographic storage, Neo246 posted a pic & Nintendo has patents with Inphase for a holo-card slot that is backward compatible with DS cards)

-the 3DS charge base seems to not be directly connecting to the system directly and may use magnetic induction charging to recharge simply by laying it in the cradle base
 
DrGAKMAN said:
-the 3DS game cards may use holographic storage, Neo246 posted a pic & Nintendo has patents with Inphase for a holo-card slot that is backward compatible with DS cards)
I have liked this idea for a while. It certainly speaks volumes about what they could about piracy. I do have concerns though:

1) Is it fragile? Will I ruin it with a thumbprint or a trip in my pocket?
2) Is it mature enough? Can they manufacture them in sufficient volumes with a high enough reliability at a cheap enough price?

I think the 2nd one is the bigger concern. A problem there would mirror the problems with the early PS3s.
 
I'm increasingly excited for the 3DS. Which is saying something, cause I was REALLY excited from the start. Just waiting for release date + price announcement. My hype will probably get even crazier then, but at least I can plan for the arrival of the awesomeness.
 
Boney said:
Release date:

September the 30th.

BAM
Haha, I wish. The way that Nintendo has "announced the announcement" for late September does feel a bit like how Apple handles things, though... I guess I wouldn't be all that surprised if Nintendo whips out a launch date a mere few days after the September announcement. I guess I should start saving up now, just in case. :lol
 
omg.kittens said:
Haha, I wish. The way that Nintendo has "announced the announcement" for late September does feel a bit like how Apple handles things, though... I guess I wouldn't be all that surprised if Nintendo whips out a launch date a mere few days after the September announcement. I guess I should start saving up now, just in case. :lol

Amount of demo gear on E3 had me in faith that it's coming sooner than we expect.
 
Serenade said:
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So, are these photos of the final, gonna-be-in-our-hands-in-a-few-months model? If so: awesome.
 
omg.kittens said:
So, are these photos of the final, gonna-be-in-our-hands-in-a-few-months model? If so: awesome.
I expect some slight modifications.. like changing that power button to a circle and maybe a bit of cosmetic changes to the home part at the bottom, but yeah... this is pretty much final.
 
Awesome. Man, I seriously wouldn't mind at all if Nintendo was handheld-exclusive from now on. The possibility of that happening has been talked into the ground on GAF, but still: I wouldn't mind at all. They do handhelds so damn well.
 
I don't like how the bottom half of the 3ds is like, split into two pieces. It seems like there is absolutely no point for that.
 
-Capcom said the D-PAD wasn't final...I would hope it'd be in it's prime possition with the slide stick in a more secondary possition, but then again, I'd also like a slider on the right side too...wish in one hand, poopoo butter in the other

-there's no real reason not to believe the new media format for the 3DS cards are indeed holographic storage

-Nintendo won't be handheld only anytime soon, with 3D I think they further put seperation between home & portable...something I think threw many conspiracy theorists (like me) for a loop as that seems to be the opposite direction from a home/portable hybrid (however, with the possibilities of using holographic storage cards, capacity & form factor wouldn't limit the possibility of a universal format to be played on either console or portable)

-while I think Wii's successor is further away than most (Pachter-ites) such a seperation (giving the 3DS time to shine) allows them to really do something different for their next home system (it'd almost have to be to sway attention away from the 3DS, repeat any Wii-like success and be (yet again) different enough from the competition to make them irrelevent)

-I think that "something different" is full room image projection allowing the game to "escape the TV" with a top-mounted fully movable projector that can put an image onto walls, floors, ceilings, tables, players, etc anywhere in the room allowing for even more interactivity
 
Amazing OP! Love it and can't wait for 3DS.

I didn't know the size of the top screen is the same as an iPhone until I read this post, so I did a quick little mockup to get a feel of the 3DS screens size. :D

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DrGAKMAN said:
-the 3DS game cards may use holographic storage, Neo246 posted a pic & Nintendo has patents with Inphase for a holo-card slot that is backward compatible with DS cards)
I posted that stuff, actually. Neo isn't to blame if it doesn't come true.


Somnid said:
I see no mention of the inferred port.
It's on the back. Konno also mentioned it in one of the video interviews on e3.nintendo.com
 
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I would love if someone tell me, is that the same charging port than the DSi?
For those who want to import, it would be a pretty important answer to know.
 
Fabulous OP! I'm a grinning idiot for the 3DS launch! :D Can't wait for Sept. 29 - man, I hope they go for a simultaneous Japan/NA release!! Day One for me for sure, along with Contra, Metal Gear, Zelda, Pilot Wings, Ridge Racer and Star Fox (if they're available)...

I hope Squeenix is working FFVI and a new FF Tactics for this thing (imagine SRPGs on a 3D board!!) :D

DrGAKMAN said:
-there's no real reason not to believe the new media format for the 3DS cards are indeed holographic storage
Um, power consumption?
 
DrGAKMAN said:
-there's no real reason not to believe the new media format for the 3DS cards are indeed holographic storage
It's never made it into a consumer product before. See my post above. We don't know about cost practicalities.
DrGAKMAN said:
-Nintendo won't be handheld only anytime soon, with 3D I think they further put seperation between home & portable...something I think threw many conspiracy theorists (like me) for a loop as that seems to be the opposite direction from a home/portable hybrid (however, with the possibilities of using holographic storage cards, capacity & form factor wouldn't limit the possibility of a universal format to be played on either console or portable)
Wii backwards compatibility would be a reason to stick with the optical disc.... but.... put a holo-postage-stamp on a disc and both a holo reader and a traditional setup in the drive and I suppose that you could do the backwards compatibility thing. But WHY? Lots of room for argument here, but it's all moot unless the the 3DS does indeed use holo-storage.
 
Jackano said:
d3eb15e4.jpg

I would love if someone tell me, is that the same charging port than the DSi?
For those who want to import, it would be a pretty important answer to know.

what is that black thingie next to the stylus port?


DrGAKMAN said:
- the 3DS charge base seems to not be directly connecting to the system directly and may use magnetic induction charging to recharge simply by laying it in the cradle base

this would be pretty cool. but other than quicker pick-up-and-go, I don't see the point
 
ILikeFeet said:
what is that black thingie next to the stylus port?
The infrared thingy

Jackano said:
I would love if someone tell me, is that the same charging port than the DSi?
For those who want to import, it would be a pretty important answer to know.
Doubt it.
 
redbarchetta said:
I actually wrote two previews that dealt with this very subject!

Target Shooting Hands-On (Nintendo 3DS)
http://www.gamexplain.com/article-148-1276728398-e3-2010-target-shooting-nintendo-3ds.html

3D Paddle Ball Hands-On (Nintendo 3DS)
http://www.gamexplain.com/article-181-1277162309-e3-2010-3d-paddle-ball-hands-on-nintendo-3ds.html

Neither demo involved tilting the system. As long as you keep the system level with your face, you can move the system (as in Target Shooting) as much as you want without compromising the 3D effect.

how was the stylus aiming in the Paddle Ball demo? I hear some people were worried that the size difference of the 2 screens was going to be a problem (I didn't think it was since KI:U would be using it)
 
Here's the patent I found LAST YEAR and there are others from other countries. I know it seem hard to believe, but then neo2046 posted this:

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Granted, I could be wrong, but if this pic is for real, how could I be wrong?

Also, before you say that the 3DS cards don't look like that 'cos they have plastic protrusion on the top right I realize that these cards look different, but the above image was posted WAY before E3 and could either be the Japanese version or simply a prototype. If you know the history of Nintendo cartridges then you know that they locked out carts from being played in different regions by how they shaped and added plastic notches to the carts themselves so they wouldn't "fit" into out of region systems.
 
DrGAKMAN said:
Here's the patent I found LAST YEAR and there are others from other countries. I know it seem hard to believe, but then neo2046 posted this:

OFBBYo_j0T-DvtlelviGalIBj3VP9hCa


Granted, I could be wrong, but if this pic is for real, how could I be wrong?

Also, before you say that the 3DS cards don't look like that 'cos they have plastic protrusion on the top right I realize that these cards look different, but the above image was posted WAY before E3 and could either be the Japanese version or simply a prototype. If you know the history of Nintendo cartridges then you know that they locked out carts from being played in different regions by how they shaped and added plastic notches to the carts themselves so they wouldn't "fit" into out of region systems.

Looks like I'll be buying 3DS' from multiple regions.
 
Fantastic OP. I came into this thinking "shiiiit, I know everything" ... I left humbled. I really hope they make a 3DS XL at launch because I just recently upgraded to a DSi XL (By upgraded I mean my girlfriend straight jacked my DSi and DQIX and hasn't stopped playing so I bought my another copy and an XL :lol ) and I've really fell in love with the 'biggerness' of it.

Hopefully, since they are going for an established 'everyone' market we might see the smaller and the XL at launch ... hopefully. Like the hope you have that you'll win the lottery haha.
 
Boney said:
The infrared thingy

Doubt it.
Why? :(


Also, on holographic storage... Seems pretty cool but, what are the real pros?
3DS is more or less at the Gamecube power level. In my opinion, Nintendo
just need the same storage capacity than a GC mini-disc, i.e. ~1.5GB.
And there is absolutely nothing that a flash card like the DS cardridge can't handle here. 3DS needs just a SD(HC) 2GB card like media. Grindable to 4GB easily, fast enought, and cheap enought.
 
Jackano said:
Why? :(


Also, on holographic storage... Seems pretty cool but, what are the real pros?
3DS is more or less at the Gamecube power level. In my opinion, Nintendo
just need the same storage capacity than a GC mini-disc, i.e. ~1.5GB.
And there is absolutely nothing that a flash card like the DS cardridge can't handle here. 3DS needs just a SD(HC) 2GB card like media. Grindable to 4GB easily, fast enought, and cheap enought.
1.5gB isn't going to cut it, that was one of the main complaints about the Gamecube iirc.


But I thought 2gB cards were announced as the standard size, or was it 1gB?
 
I finally got to play 3DS today and it was an amazing experience. I find the 3D much more impressive than PS3 3D (because of the smaller screen and no glasses), graphics looked great, both displays look really good and I had no problems with the sweet spot either. I had to adjust the slider differently for different demos but that was easy enough. I can't wait to buy this sucker!
 
Jackano said:
Well because they love to change their stuff. lite from DSi is different, and I'm pretty sure it's the same case with the XL.
Don't know what the deal is, since they come with chargers...

As for the media size, well there are more advanced compressions now, and doesn't that small screen help as well in terms of storage in videos?
 
Boney said:
Well because they love to change their stuff. lite from DSi is different, and I'm pretty sure it's the same case with the XL.
Don't know what the deal is, since they come with chargers...

As for the media size, well there are more advanced compressions now, and doesn't that small screen help as well in terms of storage in videos?

Its seems pretty close to the DSi/DSiXL one to me. GBA and original DS-tank shared the same AC adaptor so if this sheme repeat itself...

And of course, 400x240 videos take less memory than 640x480 ones. Cinematics from ported ps2/psp/GC games wont probably be rendered in new 3D, but for new games, the right vidoe format will be 800x240... closering the SDTV format.
 
Jackano said:
Its seems pretty close to the DSi/DSiXL one to me. GBA and original DS-tank shared the same AC adaptor so if this sheme repeat itself...

And of course, 400x240 videos take less memory than 640x480 ones. Cinematics from ported ps2/psp/GC games wont probably be rendered in new 3D, but for new games, the right vidoe format will be 800x240... closering the SDTV format.
Yeahbut the first DS model is basically a prototype.. They were just reusing stuff. It could be the same, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Huh, wouldn't have thought the 800x240 resolution would've been closer to SD, since there was bitching about the low resolution.. well I don't have and HD set, so maybe that's why I don't mind.
 
DrGAKMAN said:
Here's the patent I found LAST YEAR and there are others from other countries. I know it seem hard to believe, but then neo2046 posted this:

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Granted, I could be wrong, but if this pic is for real, how could I be wrong?
I totally believe that they developed a cart like that. That's not what I questioning. I'm questioning whether or not they can deploy it in a portable system this year. I'm not saying that it won't happen, but that we don't know enough to know that it will happen.
 
DrGAKMAN said:
Here's the patent I found LAST YEAR and there are others from other countries. I know it seem hard to believe, but then neo2046 posted this:

OFBBYo_j0T-DvtlelviGalIBj3VP9hCa


Granted, I could be wrong, but if this pic is for real, how could I be wrong?

Also, before you say that the 3DS cards don't look like that 'cos they have plastic protrusion on the top right I realize that these cards look different, but the above image was posted WAY before E3 and could either be the Japanese version or simply a prototype. If you know the history of Nintendo cartridges then you know that they locked out carts from being played in different regions by how they shaped and added plastic notches to the carts themselves so they wouldn't "fit" into out of region systems.


I thought that was just a mock up someone made on like 4ch or something.

BMF said:
I totally believe that they developed a cart like that. That's not what I questioning. I'm questioning whether or not they can deploy it in a portable system this year. I'm not saying that it won't happen, but that we don't know enough to know that it will happen.


From what I can remember Holographic Cards can be mass produced pretty easy. It's the readers that are a problem.
Not sure if it's feasible that the 3DS uses this method, but it would be pretty awesome.
 
thegodsend said:
I finally got to play 3DS today and it was an amazing experience. I find the 3D much more impressive than PS3 3D (because of the smaller screen and no glasses), graphics looked great, both displays look really good and I had no problems with the sweet spot either. I had to adjust the slider differently for different demos but that was easy enough. I can't wait to buy this sucker!

How did you get to play it?
 
ILikeFeet said:
how was the stylus aiming in the Paddle Ball demo? I hear some people were worried that the size difference of the 2 screens was going to be a problem (I didn't think it was since KI:U would be using it)

It wasn't a problem at all. The touchscreen acts as essentially a touch-pad, scaling up your movements to the larger screen. And though the top-screen is larger, they're actually still pretty close in size, making the scaling pretty much unnoticeable.
 
Complexgod said:
How does Ridge Racer always come out for just about every system launch.

P.S Good job OP
Ridge Racer isn't that good of a game, but at launch there is a small selection of games. Namcos strategy is to get people to buy Ridge Racer out of desperation because usually it's the only racing game available at that point.
 
whitehawk said:
Ridge Racer isn't that good of a game, but at launch there is a small selection of games.

Ridge Racer 64 was pretty fantastic...but of course, that one was made by Nintendo instead of Namco. :lol
 
whitehawk said:
Ridge Racer isn't that good of a game, but at launch there is a small selection of games. Namcos strategy is to get people to buy Ridge Racer out of desperation because usually it's the only racing game available at that point.
It's a pretty good strategy though!
 
redbarchetta said:
It wasn't a problem at all. The touchscreen acts as essentially a touch-pad, scaling up your movements to the larger screen. And though the top-screen is larger, they're actually still pretty close in size, making the scaling pretty much unnoticeable.

coolio. now we just need N-Space and the Dementium guys make FPSs for it :D
 
redbarchetta said:
Ridge Racer 64 was pretty fantastic...but of course, that one was made by Nintendo instead of Namco. :lol

Finally. Ridge Racer 64 is the best in the series. But not because it's made by Nintendo, it's just a lot funner to play.
 
DrGAKMAN said:
Here's the patent I found LAST YEAR and there are others from other countries. I know it seem hard to believe, but then neo2046 posted this:

OFBBYo_j0T-DvtlelviGalIBj3VP9hCa


Granted, I could be wrong, but if this pic is for real, how could I be wrong?

Also, before you say that the 3DS cards don't look like that 'cos they have plastic protrusion on the top right I realize that these cards look different, but the above image was posted WAY before E3 and could either be the Japanese version or simply a prototype. If you know the history of Nintendo cartridges then you know that they locked out carts from being played in different regions by how they shaped and added plastic notches to the carts themselves so they wouldn't "fit" into out of region systems.

My theory is that the hologram part of the storage solution is used only for anti-piracy/data encryption (otherwise I think they'd have much more than 2GB storage capacity) but it's just a theory.
 
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