walking fiend said:I have come to the only possible conclusion from the past few months,
Doomed Nintendo is the best Nintendo!
Oh wait, my bad, coming in December as an eShop download, not as a part of the update. It'll be called either Nintendo Letterbox or Swapnote depending on your region. Definitely not integrated.wrowa said:Huh, really? First time I've heard of that.
Zoramon089 said:This all bodes well for the Wii U online system
Luigiv said:Oh wait, my bad, coming in December as an eShop download, not as a part of the update. It'll be called either Nintendo Letterbox or Swapnote depending on your region. Definitely not integrated.
That was faulty info from nintendoworldreport._Ace_ said:Isn't this update supposed to come out tomorrow?
Yeah, but spotpass is a given. I of course mean a deeper level of integration, like being able to send invites from within a game or send messages straight from the friends list and so on. I wouldn't be suprised if the Spotpass message consists of nothing more then "You received a Swapnote message from so & so. Click to close your current application and open Swapnote now".radioheadrule83 said:It probably has SpotPass integration... you get a blue update light, a blue sphere on the app icon and a notification when you recieve spot pass data for other apps, I don't see why the messaging app will be any different. It'd be best if they could have made it integral to the friends list, so it loads at OS level - even if games are running / suspended - like the Internet Browser does, but it wouldn't matter too much if you get a notification telling you who you've had a message(s) from and maybe a snippet of what they've written.
The messaging app is gonna be cool btw. The only notes being swapped in swapnote will be 3D pictochat penises. You know it to be true.
"Well" is relative. It'll be less terrible than Wii, let's stay there for now.Zoramon089 said:This all bodes well for the Wii U online system
Luigiv said:Yeah, but that's a given. I mean a deeper level of integration, like being able to send invites from within a game or send messages straight from the friends list.
Majine said:"Well" is relative. It'll be less terrible than Wii, let's stay there for now.
Luigiv said:*click*
*Picture of a Penis*
FUUU so & so I just existed my game for this!
Zoramon089 said:People just don't want to admit Nintendo is shaping up their online...After they add messaging what other major feature are they missing? Yeah, there could be some UI improvements but they'll have everything you expect from a modern online system
An account system for the store, Party functionality, achievement system, get rid of the friendcodes, etc.Zoramon089 said:People just don't want to admit Nintendo is shaping up their online...After they add messaging what other major feature are they missing? Yeah, there could be some UI improvements but they'll have everything you expect from a modern online system
enishi said:- Friends that online will move to the front of queue automatically <- not tried yet as no one online...
Well the annoying part is that the Wii already had OS level messaging (but obviously no multitasking so it was completely useless), so it's just baffling that messaging wasn't there day one (or at least close to launch) for the 3DS. It seems like an obvious feature for the firmware team to have kept for an actual multitasking OS.Erethian said:I have to figure the reason it's an eShop title is because it's not just a simple messaging application, but lets you record little bits of audio and send photos and whatnot.
Still, not like they couldn't have made a separate application to integrate with the friends list. Or have it suspend more advanced functions if you run it while playing a game.
It's a fucking handheld. If you want all of that shit, then stick to consoles.Majine said:An account system for the store, Party functionality, achievement system, get rid of the friendcodes, etc.
Vita has all of those things.Door2Dawn said:It's a fucking handheld. If you want all of that shit, then stick to consoles.
And will the majority of people who buy it actually care about those things? My guess is no.Majine said:Vita has all of those things.
lolDoor2Dawn said:It's a fucking handheld. If you want all of that shit, then stick to consoles.
Do you know what Vita doesn't have? Systems on sale in stores right now.Majine said:Vita has all of those things.
It being a handheld is not an excuse for lack of an account based system.Door2Dawn said:It's a fucking handheld. If you want all of that shit, then stick to consoles.
It is not yet known how this invite system works, or if it even works at all yet.Erethian said:Still need an account system, still need the ability to invite people to your game rather than just joining an existing game.
So does the iPhone, party system excepted. Hell, the PSP had an account-based system.Majine said:Vita has all of those things.
Everything with the exception of achievements is basically a must in this day and age, regardless if its a console or handheld. Especially store-accounts, a very pro-consumer feature which absence basically robs you if your device fails.Door2Dawn said:And will the majority of people who buy it actually care about those things? My guess is no.
It's basically the reason why I don't buy anything off the Wiishop, DSi store or the e-shop. Well apart from Majora's Mask. I did buy that.Majine said:Especially store-accounts, a very pro-consumer feature which absence basically robs you if your device fails.
Majine said:An account system for the store, Party functionality, achievement system, get rid of the friendcodes, etc.
It most definitely will be in true nintendo fashionTheExplodingHead said:This is progress. Hopefully it isn't half-assed like the eShop was.
Well, the first issue being solved is really good, it was pretty stupid if you had to search through all your offline users to find the online ways.enishi said:Finally saw a friend online, and proved 2 things:
1. It brings this friend to the front of my list
2. Since he is also playing SM3DL (i.e. he is with latest firmware), the "invite" button is still disabled
I haven't got Tetris Axis, so I cannot test how the invite works...
Club Nintendo is only available in a few countries, Party chat is important unless you ofcourse have that "good enough" mentality, Game Coins have no similarities, most people don't remember their Wii friendcodes so there is somethibg seriously wrong with them.radioheadrule83 said:
- The store already has an account system (optional linking to Club Nintendo accounts)... they should keep that and just allow you to sync your games/apps with consoles using it. One reason they might be wary of this is that it may expose them to some kind of loophole. People signing in on one console, downloading all their stuff, taking that console offline, and then trying to do the same on another console -- tricking the shop software into accepting it, or calling Nintendo to demand they allow them download their stuff even though they've already downloaded it. They need a way to remotely monitor licenses / installs and block installs or remove them if necessary.
- Not sure Party Functionality is all that important tbh, if more games have community features like MK7 that will probably suffice
- 3DS doesn't have OS-level achievements but it does have Game Coins, these are already being used as currency in some games, I don't see why games couldn't also reward Game Coins for in-game achievements in future.
- There's nothing wrong with Friend Codes - they allow a nice degree of freedom, potentially. They just need to make the friending process more asynchronous and less laborious. If I were Nintendo I'd have searchable / linkable Mii profiles on Nintendo websites, so you can add friends from the web. I'd have parental-control protected friend invites, so people could recieve normal friend invitations. I'd take a look at social networking apps, and make Facebook / Google+ apps for finding existing friends who have a 3DS / Wii-U so you could add them on the console. It could even sync already existing relationships so you don't even have to add them!
Majine said:Everything with the exception of achievements is basically a must in this day and age, regardless if its a console or handheld. Especially store-accounts, a very pro-consumer feature which absence basically robs you if your device fails.
So, you should care.
Majine said:Club Nintendo is only available in a few countries, Party chat is important unless you ofcourse have that "good enough" mentality, Game Coins have no similarities, most people don't remember their Wii friendcodes so there is somethibg seriously wrong with them.
People complaining about friend codes is really strange. Just put in your phone even if you don't carry your 3DS around, save it as a contact, issue solved. I certainly understand that it is not easy at all to memorize it, but it is not needed.Majine said:Club Nintendo is only available in a few countries, Party chat is important unless you ofcourse have that "good enough" mentality, Game Coins have no similarities, most people don't remember their Wii friendcodes so there is somethibg seriously wrong with them.
You're right, might aswell use Skype on the phone too for Party chat. And messaging. Great job, Nintendo.walking fiend said:People complaining about friend codes is really strange. Just put in your phone even if you don't carry your 3DS around, save it as a contact, issue solved. I certainly understand that it is not easy at all to memorize it, but it is not needed.
Lol what? The freaking PSP had an account based system. The iPhone has an account based system. Vita has one. 3DS? Nope.Door2Dawn said:And will the majority of people who buy it actually care about those things? My guess is no.
Door2Dawn said:And will the majority of people who buy it actually care about those things? My guess is no.
Majine said:An account system for the store, Party functionality, achievement system, get rid of the friendcodes, etc.
radioheadrule83 said:
- The store already has an account system (optional linking to Club Nintendo accounts)... they should keep that and just allow you to sync your games/apps with consoles using it. One reason they might be wary of this is that it may expose them to some kind of loophole. People signing in on one console, downloading all their stuff, taking that console offline, and then trying to do the same on another console -- tricking the shop software into accepting it, or calling Nintendo to demand they allow them download their stuff even though they've already downloaded it. They need a way to remotely monitor licenses / installs and block installs or remove them if necessary.
- Not sure Party Functionality is all that important tbh, if more games have community features like MK7 that will probably suffice
- 3DS doesn't have OS-level achievements but it does have Game Coins, these are already being used as currency in some games, I don't see why games couldn't also reward Game Coins for in-game achievements in future.
- There's nothing wrong with Friend Codes - they allow a nice degree of freedom, potentially. They just need to make the friending process more asynchronous and less laborious. If I were Nintendo I'd have searchable / linkable Mii profiles on Nintendo websites, so you can add friends from the web. I'd have parental-control protected friend invites, so people could recieve normal friend invitations. I'd take a look at social networking APIs, and make Facebook / Google+ apps for finding existing friends who have a 3DS / Wii-U so you could add them on the console. It could even sync already existing relationships so you don't even have to add them!
EVH said:Seriously, now I understand why the fuck we got this shitty online system. It's because people eats and finds stupid ways to justify whatever Nintendo throws.