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[Belker]

I just saw a Tweet from EA about the new MAss Effect A couple of shots of gameplay. In the first bit everyone was wearing helmets. In the second a character was looking out across a balcony with their back to the camera.

It's probably entirely coincidental - I didn't check when it was first tweeted - but I'd like to think it wasn't.

 

[cripterion]

Cohh is very open about his sponsored streams and does not spew bullshit. He is a genuine guy.

Pulling the "not a true gamer cause bla bla" is not spewing bullshit?

 

[thepenguin55]

Anybody get this gem yet?

I did snap a pic of Cora giving me a T pose on the tram in the Nexus.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

If you're not buying the game because of the lipsyncing or animations you're not a really a gamer. Go outside or something

 

[Slaythe]

The other thing I can tell you is that, while it will be very respectful of the heritage built over the course of the first three games, with the original trilogy now concluded and the switch over to a new engine, we are exploring new directions, both on the gameplay and story fronts. You can still expect the pillars the franchise is known for to be fully intact though, including diverse alien races, a huge galaxy to explore, and of course rich, cinematic storytelling.

We’re all looking forward to telling you more about this next Mass Effect game, but it’s probably going to be quite a while before you hear from us again. We know you have high expectations for the franchise and we want to make sure whatever we show you lives up to those expectations.

Thank you all for your interest and your passion,

Yanick

Studio Director – BioWare Montreal

Holy fucking shit. That's what he said a few years back.

 

[Metroidvania]

The Cohh response is among the stupidest statements I've seen in defense of the game - it's so subjective, what turns off a person from enjoying a game, that to dismiss them out of hand as 'not real gamers' is so asinine.

If you like the animations or don't have a problem with them then more power to you, enjoy the game. - but good luck with that hill you're gonna die on.

 

[13ruce]

I'm just gonna leave this here.

#fireMacWalters

All-time low*

 

[inky]

Cohh is very open about his sponsored streams and does not spew bullshit. He is a genuine guy.

That whole clip is a straight logical fallacy, i.e., complete bullshit though. So yeah, he kinda does.

Calling people "not a gamer" because they don't want to use their hard earned money to support a product because of its poor quality is a pretty fucking ridiculous and childish thing to say.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

If you're not buying the game because of the lipsyncing or animations you're not a really a gamer. Go outside or something

Guess I'm not a gamer then, would like to here the rest of what he said though.

Calling people "not a gamer" because they don't want to use their hard earned money to support a product because of its poor quality is a pretty fucking ridiculous and childish thing to say.

Especially a AAA game made by Bioware, this isn't some independent small dev. Its beyond BS.

 

[Dabanton]

If you're not buying the game because of the lipsyncing or animations you're not a really a gamer. Go outside or something

Hilarious.

If this was a smalll dev on their first game, I'd be willing to overlook certain things.

But this a dev who are part of a massive company who have three prior games in the series which somehow had better lip syncing and animations.

Not all us get paid to play games by companies, so have to defend them to protect our potential income.

 

[Dysun]

This game's animation and models look like utter shit. Shame that BioWare let their new team handle their biggest IP

 

[stan423321]

All-time low*

Well, the most dedicated fans and devs may want to take a trip to Alaska or Massachusets, in order to, well, take a trip, and that trip would be to an all-time high.

 

[m_dorian]

If you're not buying the game because of the lipsyncing or animations you're not a really a gamer. Go outside or something

Terrible.

 

[guybrushfreeman]

T-Poses. T-Poses everywhere

 

[derFeef]

Hilarious.

If this was a smalll dev on their first game, I'd be willing to overlook certain things.

But this a dev who are part of a massive company who have three prior games in the series which somehow had better lip syncing and animations.

Not all us get paid to play games by companies, so have to defend them to protect our potential income.

Pretty much this. I am enjoy jank games from time to time - just need to put it into perspective. This is Mass Effect!

 

[Hentailover]

Cohh is very open about his sponsored streams and does not spew bullshit. He is a genuine guy.

He isn't very smart though.

Here's the thing, and it's exactly what I fear will happen. Gamers, as a mass, not targeting anybody personally, except maybe Cohh, due to my earlier statement, are not very susceptible to anything between the lines. Just like Donte and "white hair" arguement, anything said is diluted to most obvious simple form. It's like everything we say is only being comprehended by small children that take words literally and don't think anywhere beyond.

The reason people are cancelling their preorders and such is not just "lol jank". It's because these mistakes make game look incredibly unfinished and unpolished. So, if these aspects seem like they are so inceredibly undercooked, what reason people have to believe that other aspects of a game aren't.

If animations are this bad, name one reason your average gamer would not assume that everything else, including the story is not just as much of a mess as animations are?

What is wrong with not buying the game that looks like it's going to be bad, because of issues it's clearly having?

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Sorry Best Buy, I need my money back.

I really think there is a good story in there, but the performance on Xbox isn't great, the EA Access demo wasn't awe inspiring at all.. I think I'm OK waiting for patches/discounts/sales down the road. Maybe even free on EA Access if this ends up being bomba.

 

[Slackbladder]

This game's animation and models look like utter shit. Shame that BioWare let their new team handle their biggest IP

Not all animations and models. Combat animations are very good and alien and armour models are also very good. It's the rest that undermines the game unfortunately.

 

[DouglasteR]

If you're not buying the game because of the lipsyncing or animations you're not a really a gamer. Go outside or something

So sad.

A humble statement would be "We will do anything to fix this ASAP", but NOOO.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

If you're not buying the game because of the lipsyncing or animations you're not a really a gamer. Go outside or something

This dosn't really work here. ME is an epic sci-fi space opera, presentation does a big part to selling the deal. ME always kinda lacked in this area, but we are expecting improvement, not going backwards, and this is actually worse than the last gen trilogy.

I can see why people would find a big issue on these aspects on this game, because they are a big deal on this game. And is actually a considerable deal for me. I'll probably will buy the game down the line, but is VERY dissapointing.

If he can't see that, maybe the real gamer is not him...

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

The reason people are cancelling their preorders and such is not just "lol jank". It's because these mistakes make game look incredibly unfinished and unpolished. So, if these aspects seem like they are so inceredibly undercooked, what reason people have to believe that other aspects of a game aren't.

If animations are this bad, name one reason your average gamer would not assume that everything else, including the story is not just as much of a mess as animations are?

What is wrong with not buying the game that looks like it's going to be bad, because of issues it's clearly having?

I can get on board with most of this, I didn't pre-order this mainly cause I just typically don't anymore (unless it is expected to be limited). I was going to pick it up probably 2-3 weeks after launch, not anymore.

I'm willing to bet that the game is actually solid (combat, story, lore...basically gameplay) but I refuse to support Bioware/EA here. It is completely unacceptable for a dev and publisher of their caliber to put a product like this out there. The game can be fine from a gameplay standpoint but that isn't the entire picture, especially for a game built upon conversations and interactions with characters. It is BS and I refuse to support it.

This dosn't really work here. ME is an epic sci-fi space opera, presentation does a big part to selling the deal. ME always kinda lacked in this area, but we are expecting improvement, not going backwards, and this is actually worse than the last gen trilogy.

I can see why people would find a big issue on these aspects on this game, because they are a big deal on this game. And is actually a considerable deal for me. I'll probably will buy the game down the line, but is VERY dissapointing.

Yep, Bioware games as a whole are far more about character, conversations, and interactions than the combat/gameplay alone.

 

[aygomyownroad]

I may get this game. I loved Mass Effect but I would love to have my own experiences with this awful animation. Especially later in the game.

The sex scene, the no doubt sad scene will be ruined by something hilarious

 

[Diabelli]

"Please tell me that nigga fell out, I can't look.."*bam*

fucking lol

 

[BitterSidekick]

If you're not buying the game because of the lipsyncing or animations you're not a really a gamer. Go outside or something

Hes just saying this to cover his own ass in the future, he has to earn money, saying something thats bullshit to Bioware (or any other AAA studio) is a dead sentence in his future plans or he just thinks this.

Either way, its terrible.

 

[GravityInsanity]

Man, even PewDiePie is on it. What went wrong here?

 

[CHC]

Like others in here, I'm kind of starting to love the fact that this is becoming The Room of videogames.

 

[dh4niel]

Who the hell is this Cohh guy and why should I care? I'd never want to call myself a 'gamer' in the first place.

 

[Soul of the Beast]

Half ass sun praising there...

My arms are tired from all this sun praising.

 

[Tecnniqe]

My arms are tired from all this sun praising.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

[watership]

Watching gameplay of the main character just walking makes me wonder if they ran into an animation problem late and had to restart everything over. The character interaction/dialogue stuff is just revolting.

 

[antitrop]

Who the hell is this Cohh guy and why should I care? I'd never want to call myself a 'gamer' in the first place.

He streams games on the internet for other people to watch.

 

[Lime]

damn I wish xLestali (and me lol) got royalties from that gif that's making the rounds everywhere - Gamesradar, Kotaku, pewdiepie, etc.

 

[Tecnniqe]

edit: nevermind

We fame now

Ninja edit fame ruined

 

[Syrinx]

Probably late on this joke but whatevs.

 

[Krathoon]

Yeah. Gaming as a lifestyle always seems like a sad, sad thing.

It is something you do for fun. Not a lifestyle.

 

[cripterion]

Wonder how the Scott and Sara models feel about all this.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

He streams games on the internet for other people to watch.

Is he one of those people I have been hearing about who 'streams' (whatever that is) games on the Twitch website? I heard some cool kids at the Y talking about it.

Yeah. Gaming as a lifestyle always seems like a sad, sad thing.

It is something you do for fun. Not a lifestyle.

What does this even mean.

 

[CuNi]

If you're not buying the game because of the lipsyncing or animations you're not a really a gamer. Go outside or something

So, if I buy a story heavy game and enjoy immersing myself in its world, it is apparently wrong if I don't buy a game that has such bad lipsync and animation that I simply cannot take anything the story tries to convey serious and thus cannot enjoy the game at any point.

When did "Gaming and Gameplay" go from "I like the worlds and stories in addition to those awesome mechanic" to "This game supports 4k 60FPS and has a known publisher" !?

Geez, people really need to stop defending some games like they are part of their family or their self proclaimed deity.

 

[aygomyownroad]

Probably late on this joke but whatevs.

Never too late for this train. It hasn't even left the station yet... When it releases officially then choo choo

 

[Tecnniqe]

Wonder how the Scott and Sara models feel about all this.

Tired in their face from all the laughing probably

 

[Soul of the Beast]

Man, even PewDiePie is on it. What went wrong here?

Holy shit I didn't know he made a video about this.

This is absolutely the most damaging thing that can happen to this game's marketing.

We are talking about potentially 5 to 8 million viewers watching him pointing out how shit this game can look at times and joke about it.
This is by far the biggest roast on this game, and it will cause the most damage.

Damn, I feel bad for the dev team but let's be honest they are not the victim here.

 

[butman]

Man, even PewDiePie is on it. What went wrong here?

UUUUUHHHH GAF's job is done here.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Funniest thing is that this news/outrage is going to have some reviewers and early adopters over-scrutinize the game. A sort of 'what-is-seen-cannot-be-unseen' kind of thing.

I watched the 2-hour Giant Bomb stream and could only see the immense jank in everything. The animations, the stilted AI, the voice-acting, everything. It's impossible to look past it once it has been seen. It looks like they gave this game to a bunch of interns.

 

[cripterion]

UUUUUHHHH GAF's job is done here.

lol some people here said it was the GAF negative echo chamber. Oh boy.

 

[King Gilga]

Cohh is very open about his sponsored streams and does not spew bullshit. He is a genuine guy.

He's a genuine tool judging by that clip.

'not really a gamer', lmao.

 

[Tecnniqe]

lol some people here said it was the GAF negative echo chamber. Oh boy.

GAF positive echo chamber?

 

[Heshinsi]

Double post.

 

[Soul of the Beast]

PewDiePie once roasted a game so hard the devs gave up on the game and never patch it since.
Dude and his fanbase doesn't fuck around.

 

[Jangowuzhere]

What were they trying to accomplish with the facial expressions in this game?

Just copy, paste, and polish the tech from Inquisition and it would have been just fine. How the heck they ended up with these uncanny valley android nightmares is beyond me.

 

[Heshinsi]

This is really good.

Besides the fact that it skips a frame of animation, once you know the context, it becomes a ridiculous expression.

"Everyone ok?!"

*The reaction of the Doctor in charge.*

"I think so."