A Link to the Past
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Nintendo am smart for releasing DS Lite in Summer, as it's not really a season where they have to worry about competing.
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A few comments from retail... What's going on?
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A Link to the Past
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Also, I never understood the dislike of summer from publishers - I mean, that's when students are getting summer jobs, and when kids have more time to play games. Why are spring and fall so hot for games compared to summer?
Ghengis Cohen
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March=end of fiscal yearA Link to the Past said:
Fall=Annual spend-phase/athon
theREBELins
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*pre-orders 1 million copies of Saint's Row*
I don't see why the holiday rush is so great for some publishers... Let's take Tales of the Abyss for example. If it launched this summer, people would buy it because there's almost no competition. Instead, it'll launch this fall against Zelda, Final Fantasy, PS3, and Wii. I don't think I'll be able to pick it up until hits Greatest Hits seeing as I'll have Zelda and Metroid Prime 3 to keep me busy...
Zaxxon said:
Damn straight! Spread out the love.
Actually, I don't mind everything hitting in November, since I only buy those few titles that I deem absolute must haves. Everything else waits, and prices drop quicker!
But, I really wouldn't mind having a must have title come out during the summer months.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
releasing during the holidays guarantees big sales at the highest price point they can have. then they can drop the prices for summer and repeat the process.
at least that's the game plan most companies utilize..
at least that's the game plan most companies utilize..
JoshuaJSlone
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Why? Considering they've been in the same ballpark for months, and that redesigns such as GBASP had huge first months, 3:1 wouldn't have been a bad guess even before sonycowboy's post.Chris Remo said:
Mr_Furious
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They'll just write it off as a "transitional year" (ala evey other new gen cycle)ToxicAdam said:
Everything sounds about right.
As far as used systems go, we have PS2 at the most, then DS, then GC. We've sold about... 1 GCs in the last three months. We're all out of Xboxes, and PS2s sell moderately well. We haven't sold a single DS or bundle since the Mario Kart Blue bundle went out of stock, and PSPs have been selling very well.
Of course, nothing's been selling quite like the DS Lite or its software. We sell as many as we can get in stock. It's been pretty crazy. Even older titles like Advance Wars and Nintendogs are going fast, and we're getting calls all the time for Castlevaniads and Phoenix Wright.
360 sales have picked up. They were really REALLY slow until about a weak ago. The biggest question I hear regarding the system is, "what are the new games on the 360?" Moto GP is regularly out of stock, and people don't want to believe that Table Tennis isn't bad. Ghost Recon, Hitman, Tomb Raider, and Elder Scrolls are still the best sellers.
As far as used systems go, we have PS2 at the most, then DS, then GC. We've sold about... 1 GCs in the last three months. We're all out of Xboxes, and PS2s sell moderately well. We haven't sold a single DS or bundle since the Mario Kart Blue bundle went out of stock, and PSPs have been selling very well.
Of course, nothing's been selling quite like the DS Lite or its software. We sell as many as we can get in stock. It's been pretty crazy. Even older titles like Advance Wars and Nintendogs are going fast, and we're getting calls all the time for Castlevaniads and Phoenix Wright.
360 sales have picked up. They were really REALLY slow until about a weak ago. The biggest question I hear regarding the system is, "what are the new games on the 360?" Moto GP is regularly out of stock, and people don't want to believe that Table Tennis isn't bad. Ghost Recon, Hitman, Tomb Raider, and Elder Scrolls are still the best sellers.
TurtleSnatcher
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There are signs? Hmm.. Maybe handmade signs?
Throwaway123456789
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Y2Kevbug11 said:
Actually, the PS2 only sold less than 200k in Nov 2002 (187,554), Apr 2002 (195,707) and Apr 2004 (188,669)
...out of 68 months (this May).
****ing insane.
GameCube only sold > 200k in a month 12 times in it's 60 months on the US market this May.
Agent Icebeezy
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1) Xbox HW is essentially gone. 10 EB's & Gamestops around haven't received HW for over 2 months. Big box retailers still have some, but reportedly haven't gotten any new shipments either. Used Xbox's are selling quite well.
Great to hear
2)GC HW is actually still being recieved, albiet only 4 or so units at a time. Presumably ony what's left in the warehouses based on Nintendo's comments and the puny shipments over the past 2 years. Used GC's aren't moving
WTF
3) PSP Value packs have reportedly been discontinued. No shipments in over 2 months. Only the core system, but stores tell me that customers would prefer a value pack. This was repeated at multiple stores. PSP is in a pretty major slowdown with SW sales being particularly weak.
Sony still hasn't made headway with what they want the PSP to be
4) DS Lite exploded on retail. Unfortunately, after large shipments for launch, only a handful made it in the second shipments, with 3rd shipments coming this week. NSMB, Brain Age, and Brain Academy are hot hot hot. There are a shitton of used old DS' on the market now, after $70 was offered on tradeins towards the DSLite. Expect the DS to outsell the PSP 3 or 4 to 1 this month.
This was expected
5) 360's are moving briskly, but SW sales seem to be at a low ebb, with no major new releases. Moto GP is moving well, better than past Moto GP's
July should bring a better month with NCAA football coming out
6) PS3 software preorders are relatively high as folks seem to be fooled by the big "Preorder the PS3!!!! games signs at EB & Gamestop. Orders are spread across alot of titles, with none being far and away the lead.
Any idea on top 5?
7) Madden 360 preorders are eeking out PS2 preorders, which is encouraging for 360 sales, but PS2 sales are expected to be 2-3 times higher at launch.
I think this shows the differences in average gamer status as far as fanbase
8) GTA Liberty City Stories is selling decently, but most stores have tons of copies from the initial shipment. Nowhere near what most stores expected, even with tempered (slightly low) expectations.
First GTA this gen I didn't get
9) Other than DS SW, nothing is moving that well. And not much is expected until NCAA 07 on July 18th and then Madden a month later. It's a bleak, bleak, bleak summer.
Ditto #5 answer
10) Saints Row preorders are low relative to other mid-level 360 games to this point, but it's still early and a decent demo could help.
I have high hopes for this. They have a retail presence with a box in Gamestop, but they need to get more media out.
Great to hear
2)GC HW is actually still being recieved, albiet only 4 or so units at a time. Presumably ony what's left in the warehouses based on Nintendo's comments and the puny shipments over the past 2 years. Used GC's aren't moving
WTF
3) PSP Value packs have reportedly been discontinued. No shipments in over 2 months. Only the core system, but stores tell me that customers would prefer a value pack. This was repeated at multiple stores. PSP is in a pretty major slowdown with SW sales being particularly weak.
Sony still hasn't made headway with what they want the PSP to be
4) DS Lite exploded on retail. Unfortunately, after large shipments for launch, only a handful made it in the second shipments, with 3rd shipments coming this week. NSMB, Brain Age, and Brain Academy are hot hot hot. There are a shitton of used old DS' on the market now, after $70 was offered on tradeins towards the DSLite. Expect the DS to outsell the PSP 3 or 4 to 1 this month.
This was expected
5) 360's are moving briskly, but SW sales seem to be at a low ebb, with no major new releases. Moto GP is moving well, better than past Moto GP's
July should bring a better month with NCAA football coming out
6) PS3 software preorders are relatively high as folks seem to be fooled by the big "Preorder the PS3!!!! games signs at EB & Gamestop. Orders are spread across alot of titles, with none being far and away the lead.
Any idea on top 5?
7) Madden 360 preorders are eeking out PS2 preorders, which is encouraging for 360 sales, but PS2 sales are expected to be 2-3 times higher at launch.
I think this shows the differences in average gamer status as far as fanbase
8) GTA Liberty City Stories is selling decently, but most stores have tons of copies from the initial shipment. Nowhere near what most stores expected, even with tempered (slightly low) expectations.
First GTA this gen I didn't get
9) Other than DS SW, nothing is moving that well. And not much is expected until NCAA 07 on July 18th and then Madden a month later. It's a bleak, bleak, bleak summer.
Ditto #5 answer
10) Saints Row preorders are low relative to other mid-level 360 games to this point, but it's still early and a decent demo could help.
I have high hopes for this. They have a retail presence with a box in Gamestop, but they need to get more media out.
Fuzzy said:With the PSP Greatest Hits lineup launching July 25th I hope Nintendo follows suit soon. They also have to release more GBA PC games, 3 games aren't enough.
Are you encouraging us to be pirates?
im encouraging you to take advantage of the home brew community. hundred bucks for a badass media center aint a bad deal.
TurtleSnatcher
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Jiggy37 said:
But game retailers see 75% of there profit in that last quarter.. just picture that.. and sales.. Its nuts.. no matter what game it may be competing with.
Ghengis Cohen
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Holidayssp0rsk said:
Billy Rygar said:
well duuuuuuuuuh but i mean, you have the summer which is totally shitty and then all of a sudden shit tons of games come out in the winter and then it dies and dies and dies again until next christmas.
am i the only one that thinks this is slightly silly? just cause a game comes out in may doesnt mean it wont sell in november, right?
A game sells better at its launch because the marketing is buzzing and its in peoples minds. A game released in summer would still sell well in December if it was good, but as good as if it was just released in Nov/Dec in the first place?
In December you have ~25x more games hit the 100k mark than in summer. I can see why publishers flood the market then. Everyone has the money and reason to spend.
In December you have ~25x more games hit the 100k mark than in summer. I can see why publishers flood the market then. Everyone has the money and reason to spend.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
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