A Hat in Time has a trans flag in it

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You realize you are talking about the same side in both cases, right? SJW is all about "politically correct".
No, I'm talking about when some people think if the game has gay as main character it must have "SJW agenda".
 
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0.6% and we should uproot our society, science and mental health institutions and teaching for the sake of feelings and delusions...

0.6% of the global population and it's not a mental illness... It's less prevalent than schizophrenia (1%) or bi-polar disorder (2.6%) but it's not a mental illness?

Do people celebrate schizophrenia or bi-polar disorder? Nope, because they are mental afflictions that need proper treatment to help the individuals return to a state of normality. Why are we indulging the transgender mental illness? We are exacerbating it, making it worse, coddling it instead of trying to help people back to normality like we do with every other mental illness.

I fucking hate modern society that leftists are trying to create, it's a shit show of anti-science and an unlearning of reality rooted education.

This isn't even bigotry, this isn't hatred, this is a call to arms to actually help these people, not make their situations worse... The answer for these people is cutting off body parts and mutilating themselves? Changing their entire chemical hormonal structure? Massive amounts of reconstructive and plastic surgery? These people kill themselves at a higher rate AFTER these things are done to them, after these "treatments"... This is the Twilight Zone, it has to be, this can't be real..

THAT'S THE ANSWER? HAVE WE LOST OUR GOD DAMN MINDS!!!

So this poster and 26 others on GAF are transphobic? Hell.....I didn't know we became "THAT" kind of forum nowadays. :messenger_unamused:
 
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I'm not picking on you specifically, but this is what I mean about "no middle ground." You can't question the progressive orthodoxy (even on a biological basis) without falling under the umbrella of this accusation.
It might have something to do with the fact that the people you're agreeing with on something so inane and stupid to get outraged over are actual, blatant transphobes and homophobes.
 

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It might have something to do with the fact that the people you're agreeing with on something so inane and stupid to get outraged over are actual, blatant transphobes and homophobes.
You're only proving my point. It's guilt by association, and one broad brush for the whole.
 

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You're only proving my point. It's guilt by association, and one broad brush for the whole.
So what's a proper way to handle a situation when someone aligns themselves to obviously transphobic people and/or transphobic reasoning?
 

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Is it really though? What's "dystopian like" about my post? We humans have done this before when it's come to race, gender, religion, etc.
If we can leave aside the issue of discriminating (such as for hiring purposes*) against people on any of those bases, or on the basis of gender identity, and if we can also grant the necessity of compassion for anyone, then what's left is simply explaining the thing.

What you name "transphobic reasoning" is one explanation for the phenomenon of transgenderism. This is nothing new though; there's a fundamental and irreconcilable disagreement between those who see gender as biological or inherent versus those who believe it's "socially constructed."

We'll never reach an agreement on it, but it's unfortunate that the alternative is only malice.

*We generally don't require Muslim charities to hire Christians, etc
 

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If we can leave aside the issue of discriminating (such as for hiring purposes*) against people on any of those bases, or on the basis of gender identity, and if we can also grant the necessity of compassion for anyone, then what's left is simply explaining the thing.

What you name "transphobic reasoning" is one explanation for the phenomenon of transgenderism. This is nothing new though; there's a fundamental and irreconcilable disagreement between those who see gender as biological or inherent versus those who believe it's "socially constructed."

We'll never reach an agreement on it, but it's unfortunate that the alternative is only malice.

*We generally don't require Muslim charities to hire Christians, etc
Those things that you want to leave aside are pretty big though. Like life-altering big! I agree if you leave aside all of those things, then we are just "explaining" things away (which doesn't matter that much in the grand scheme of things). But isn't that the point? It's the fact that discrimination does happen and that there's a lack of compassion is, in fact, the very issue at hand.

I'd be making a grand assumption (one that I believe to be mostly correct), but the people that believe being Trans is a social construct are probably less liking to have compassion for Trans people. And they'd probably be more likely to discriminate against them.
 

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the people that believe being Trans is a social construct are probably less liking to have compassion for Trans people.
Could be. "Disagree, but with compassion" seems like the via media to shoot for, then. It seems like it should be possible. I disagree with a lot of life choices that I've seen friends make -- fiercely so, in some cases. But it's possible to remain friends even so.
 
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No wonder people call NeoGaf a white Supremacists stronghold

Look at that, there is not a single day without a fucking gender politics thread related, be it regarding media, be it because of a game.

Even though there is a fucking Politics section, you are not safe in any other.

Some users do it intentionally. Like a counter-agenda

It gets old. Most people don't fucking care about "minorities" taking over or some shit. It doesn't hurt anyone, so don't think everybody will agree with your hate upon any bait shit thread.
The fact that everything you said after this label has nothing in relation to it speaks to how ignorant these people can be.

Yes right leaning hot takes on transgender topics are more common here, the big difference is many disagree with it while keeping their accounts. Something the boards those "people" frequent ban indiscriminately for even on the slightest variance from their perspective.
 
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Why is this even a thread?

Why does it matter?

Why are people so bent out of shape about everything, all the time, everywhere?

It's fuckin' dumb.
Why are you so bent out of shape about my fuckin dumb thread?

No wonder people call NeoGaf a white Supremacists stronghold

Look at that, there is not a single day without a fucking gender politics thread related, be it regarding media, be it because of a game.

Even though there is a fucking Politics section, you are not safe in any other.

Some users do it intentionally. Like a counter-agenda

It gets old. Most people don't fucking care about "minorities" taking over or some shit. It doesn't hurt anyone, so don't think everybody will agree with your hate upon any bait shit thread.
>if you don't like transpeople you're a white supremacists
I wish I could say that's a new one but it isn't lmao.
 

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All identity is at least part social construct

I mean I can’t just walk into a bank and pretend I am super rich and tell them to loan me $10 million dollars. Or try out for major league football and tell them I’m not 140 lbs I’m actually 280. Or go get a drivers licence at age 13 because I identify as 16

It’s a nice fiction to pretend that you can control everything but quite literally not true in practice
 
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No wonder people call NeoGaf a white Supremacists stronghold

Look at that, there is not a single day without a fucking gender politics thread related, be it regarding media, be it because of a game.

Even though there is a fucking Politics section, you are not safe in any other.

Some users do it intentionally. Like a counter-agenda

It gets old. Most people don't fucking care about "minorities" taking over or some shit. It doesn't hurt anyone, so don't think everybody will agree with your hate upon any bait shit thread.
 

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What is ironic is that the people who get upset everytime a minority, female or homosexual is the protagonist in a game or film are exactly just like the other side who gets upset when a white heterosexual male is the protagonist in a game or film. You are exactly the same but on different sides of the mirror.

Both sides seek to be outraged in everything and then whine and bitch about it on social media. Meanwhile most people in the “real world” do not give a shit.

There are much more important things to be focusing on and to be concerned about.
 
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What is ironic is that the people who get upset everytime a minority, female or homosexual is the protagonist in a game or film are exactly just like the other side who gets upset when a white heterosexual male is the protagonist in a game or film. You are exactly the same but on different sides of the mirror.

Both sides seek to be outraged in everything and then whine and bitch about it on social media. Meanwhile most people in the “real world” do not give a shit.
I'm starting to wonder if this stems from loneliness.

People are so desperate for attentions online now, they'll latch onto to any extreme hot take they can find, just in the hope that something they post, something they say, will be acknowledged by someone, anyone.

A flag was in a game. So what?
 
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What is ironic is that the people who get upset everytime a minority, female or homosexual is the protagonist in a game or film are exactly just like the other side who gets upset when a white heterosexual male is the protagonist in a game or film. You are exactly the same but on different sides of the mirror.

Both sides seek to be outraged in everything and then whine and bitch about it on social media. Meanwhile most people in the “real world” do not give a shit.

I am sick of hearing about this stupid shit all of the time. There are much more important things to be focusing on and to be concerned about.
Yeah, I'd like good games too but more people care about politics these days.
 

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So this poster and 26 others on GAF are transphobic? Hell.....I didn't know we became "THAT" kind of forum nowadays. :messenger_unamused:
Do you a substantive rebuttal to what was said? Or did you just skim it, say to yourself “y’all transphobic”, and then stopped looking at it so you wouldn’t have to think too hard about your own beliefs?

I have a feeling it’s the latter.
 
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I’m guessing Reeeeeseteeeeeeera had a fresh new wave of mass bannings, considering all the unfamiliar names popping up using NPC buzzwords.
Why are people here obsessed with resetera? I know they ban people for trivial shit. But who cares what resetera thinks. You guys sound like a jaded ex, who is pissed that your former spouse got the house and kids.
 
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Why are people here obsessed with resetera? I know they ban people for trivial shit. But who cares what resetera thinks. You guys sound like a jaded ex, who is pissed that your former spouse got the house and kids.
She sounds like a cunt.
 

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Why are people here obsessed with resetera? I know they ban people for trivial shit. But who cares what resetera thinks. You guys sound like a jaded ex, who is pissed that your former spouse got the house and kids.
Because this thread wouldn't be allowed to exist on Resetera
 

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But they won’t. You’re either with them or you’re an enemy of social progress.

No one gets to live in the middle ground, even if there were any.
I can say based on personal experience that what You are saying is false. I can honestly say that if You feel antagonized it's because You're not actually doing the "let live" part.
 
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Why are people here obsessed with resetera? I know they ban people for trivial shit. But who cares what resetera thinks. You guys sound like a jaded ex, who is pissed that your former spouse got the house and kids.
Laughing at crazy people in a cult is not being obsessed, it’s being normal.
 
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I'm starting to wonder if this stems from loneliness.

People are so desperate for attentions online now, they'll latch onto to any extreme hot take they can find, just in the hope that something they post, something they say, will be acknowledged by someone, anyone.

A flag was in a game. So what?
It would be sad, if it was not so pathetic. I am old enough to remember a time before the internet, when everything you said didnt need to be broadcasted. I do not know when people became so insecure and needy on such a large scale that everything they say has to be validated by strangers they will never even meet.

The problem is that people get all these likes from random individuals and they get addicted to that dopamine hit it provides.

It is not a good thing. It feeds into narcissism and self indulgence.
 

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It would be sad, if it was not so pathetic. I am old enough to remember a time before the internet, when everything you said didnt need to be broadcasted. I do not know when people became so insecure and needy on such a large scale that everything they say has to be validated by strangers they will never even meet.

The problem is that people get all these likes from random individuals and they get addicted to that dopamine hit it provides.

It is not a good thing. It feeds into narcissism and self indulgence.
Agreed. Stop posting trans, non binary and gay shit for attention. It doesn't need to be broadcasted.
 
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Because unfortunately these days for most people taking about “controversy” behind the game is more exciting than talking about the game itself.
Indeed. Gotta get that dopamine fix somehow, right?

Laughing at crazy people in a cult is not being obsessed, it’s being normal.
Indeed. Indeed.

And I'm pretty sure they're saying exactly the same thing.

It would be sad, if it was not so pathetic. I am old enough to remember a time before the internet, when everything you said didnt need to be broadcasted. I do not know when people became so insecure and needy on such a large scale that everything they say has to be validated by strangers they will never even meet.

The problem is that people get all these likes from random individuals and they get addicted to that dopamine hit it provides.

It is not a good thing. It feeds into narcissism and self indulgence.
Indeed.

And watch as they blindly justify the exact same insanity they're criticising others for possessing.
 
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Why are people here obessed with resetera? I know they ban people for trivial shit. But who cares what resetera thinks. You guys sound like a jaded ex, who is pissed that your former spouse got the house and kids.
It's usually because people deliberately come here from Resetera to drive-by post. It happens now and then, suddenly an old poster that hasn't posted for years or a fresh account will show up and instantly peddle something like "wow, this forum has really gone down", "yikes the white supremacists have taken over". It usually comes in waves, why some suspect it's because a banwave are getting people to show up here.

It's an actual thing. That said, sure a lot of members here are angry at Resetera, either because they felt betrayed, because they view themselves as ideologically opposed or because of the various porn and gore the people who went over to Resetera spammed this forum with before they left. A lot of people are angry because of the way EviLore was treated as well. Resetera and NeoGAF are connected, so it's not hard to think that Resetera will be mentioned now and then.

I'd also say the forum defines itself on trying to be what Resetera isn't, which is a place for free and civil discussion (clear rules and bannings, topics from left-wing to right-wing are welcome), for fun (which is why we can have a thread for celebrating asses or breasts, and they can't) and for what ultimately is why we are here: our love of video games. We have hot takes from both sides here, we have introspections into the community as a whole, we have banter, we've got it all.
 
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Laughing at crazy people in a cult is not being obsessed, it’s being normal.
Well perspective matters. It would be better to not be antagonistic and instead be constructive and just ignore that which bothers you.
 

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ITT: armchair psychologists
lmao. gotta get that dopamine fix somehow right?

But just to be clear; you don't like transpeople, then?
FtoM is aight. MtoF seems like a bunch of fetishy weirdos for the most part and they're always the ones talking about being trans and putting trans shit in video games so I don't like a lot of them. Some of them are ok. Just like hating transpeople or criticizing them doesn't make you a white supremacist at all.
 
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It's usually because people deliberately come here from Resetera to drive-by post. It happens now and then, suddenly an old poster that hasn't posted for years or a fresh account will show up and instantly peddle something like "wow, this forum has really gone down", "yikes the white supremacists have taken over". It usually comes in waves, why some suspect it's because a banwave are getting people to show up here.

It's an actual thing. That said, sure a lot of members here are angry at Resetera, either because they felt betrayed, because they view themselves as ideologically opposed or because of the various porn and gore the people who went over to Resetera spammed this forum with before they left. A lot of people are angry because of the way EviLore was treated as well. Resetera and NeoGAF are connected, so it's not hard to think that Resetera will be mentioned now and then.

I'd also say the forum defines itself on trying to be what Resetera isn't, which is a place for free and civil discussion (clear rules and bannings, topics from left-wing to right-wing are welcome), for fun (which is why we can have a thread for celebrating asses or breasts, and they can't) and for what ultimately is why we are here: our love of video games. We have hot takes from both sides here, we have introspections into the community as a whole, we have banter, we've got it all.
Look dont get me wrong some of the people on resetera are very easily triggered. Not all of them, as they tend to argue with each other a lot too. The moderation is insane though.

I got banned by resetera months ago for some stupid shit. But honestly its whatever, I do not really give a damn.
 
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It would be sad, if it was not so pathetic. I am old enough to remember a time before the internet, when everything you said didnt need to be broadcasted. I do not know when people became so insecure and needy on such a large scale that everything they say has to be validated by strangers they will never even meet.

The problem is that people get all these likes from random individuals and they get addicted to that dopamine hit it provides.

It is not a good thing. It feeds into narcissism and self indulgence.
😂 I'm not sure this is the wisest thing to say in defense of trans people