Silver Arrows
Banned
Arkham Knight did to preserve the big story twist. But that was only right at the end, the rest of the game had no issues.
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A note about Persona 5 Streaming From Atlus
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Arkham Knight did to preserve the big story twist. But that was only right at the end, the rest of the game had no issues.
chillybright
Banned
Are there any playthroughs on NicoNico？
Megawarrior
Member
Both Tales games on ps4, all yakuza's on ps4 except the western version of yakuza 0 from what I immediately remember.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
It's just like one of my Japanese animes.
Needlecrash
Member
Fuck off Atlus. Threatening copyright strikes? Content ID claims? FUCK YOU. Don't want the game spoiled? DON'T WATCH THE STREAMS THEN. Some Japanese companies are still living in the past and Atlus is no exception.
I don't remember any of this happening when the game was launched in Japan. Now, they want to clamp down on this bullshit?
I don't remember any of this happening when the game was launched in Japan. Now, they want to clamp down on this bullshit?
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
I don't understand what 7/7 is.
Gentleman Jack
Member
I mean, if you look for them, full spoilers for all boss fights and cutscenes are available on youtube from beginning to end. In Japanese, in Japanese with fan-translated English subtitles, and in English.
Of course, how long those last now that Atlus has gone full 'FUCK YOU SOCIAL MEDIA' mode is yet to be seen.
There are no story reasons making 7/7 (July 7) special. Game length spoilers
It's approximately 3 months into the playable part of the calendar year. It's not halfway or any meaningful fraction of the way through bosses, dungeons, etc.
It's date within the game itself. Persona 3 and onward have a calendar system, where the games proceed in semi-real time.
This.
I can't wrap my head around;
'Take 6 months to localise'
'Being worried about spoilers now'
It just does not compute in my head.
The game has been effectively spoiled for half a year!
They aren't doing it because they want to protect people from spoilers. They are doing it because they are afraid that if people watch someone else play through the game and experience the story that way, they might not buy the game themselves because they already know what happens in the story. It is a very story driven game, after all, although I personally wouldn't be interested in the game if it didn't have dungeon crawling mixed in.
They didn't give a rats ass about the Japanese release being showed because so few people understand Japanese compared to English.
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
It's very similar to region locking P4A, they think they can make their mistakes the customers problem. It didn't work then and it isn't working now. I've never seen a company so comfortable with treating its customers in an outwardly hostile manner
From a guy living in Europe I stand by statements I've made in the past that Atlus might be the worst company in the video game business.
They treat their customers like absolute turd.
UserDoesNotExist
Member
And Atlus just spoiled that something major happens at 7/7. The fuck?
That would be about 3 months in to the game, so I assume it just means they don't want footage past those.
Because games are games and have legal precedent of creative ownership in how they're played, I don't see how Atlus can move forward with purging streamers, even if their games are story-based, without introducing legal documentation to the court systems.
Is it just the idea of filing complaint after claim until the streamer or Youtuber caves in? Does Nintendo do this, or only with tournaments?
In any case, when I stream it I'll be doing it under a different game's name, such as Grand Theft Auto IV or Dead Space.
Is it just the idea of filing complaint after claim until the streamer or Youtuber caves in? Does Nintendo do this, or only with tournaments?
In any case, when I stream it I'll be doing it under a different game's name, such as Grand Theft Auto IV or Dead Space.
TyMiles2012
Member
Man, I really wanted to stream my whole blind play through without commentary. Guess that won't happen since I don't want to risk it. Besides, people thet would REALLY want to go through this can simply flip footage horizontally and raise/lower audio pitch and it would never be detected, or just slap gameplay from other games in the footage as I've heard that works too. This stuff is some people's whole career.
I've streamed Nintendo footage on YouTube before and the archived footage wasn't taken down, they just muted the audio. I'm not part of the Nintendo thingimajig video club either.
I've streamed Nintendo footage on YouTube before and the archived footage wasn't taken down, they just muted the audio. I'm not part of the Nintendo thingimajig video club either.
How About No
Member
They'll just try to find workarounds for things like the "don't post videos after this in-game date" bit.
holy heck lol
Anybody post this from Devolver Digital yet?
I really can't imagine it has much to do with the fear of spoilers, but if there's some truth to that then I do blame the ferociousness with which people react to spoilers nowadays. It is silly.
Beyond that it's outdated reasoning that will hurt this game more than it could help and for what it's worth, as a customer, I've let Atlus know how my wallet feels about that for future releases.
Beyond that it's outdated reasoning that will hurt this game more than it could help and for what it's worth, as a customer, I've let Atlus know how my wallet feels about that for future releases.
SENPAIatLARGE
Banned
Isn't the whole point of Persona 5 rebelling against authority?
Hard to say given the localization issues.
KZXcellent
Member
I doubt they'll be striking people down with this. The final boss in it's entirety has been on YouTube for 3 months along with all the major boss fights. On top of that with the Western release everyone's posting videos of the same stuff so they're gonna have their work cut out for them if they want to go scorched earth and strike them all down.
I think they're simply giving lip service. Square-Enix has done the same with it having messages of "Streaming Restrictions" that had people thinking they couldn't make content of their games but in the end nothing came of it. If it's not lip service then they've already failed massively at it.
In the end I don't believe they care about spoilers for even a second. If they did then Persona 5 would have been released same day worldwide.
I think they're simply giving lip service. Square-Enix has done the same with it having messages of "Streaming Restrictions" that had people thinking they couldn't make content of their games but in the end nothing came of it. If it's not lip service then they've already failed massively at it.
In the end I don't believe they care about spoilers for even a second. If they did then Persona 5 would have been released same day worldwide.
MaximumSpider
Banned
We, the fans, have to steal Atlus' wicked desires to block our streaming.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
The Spider-Man Homecoming trailer is a perfect example of why spoilers "can" suck. It showed off all the expectations a fan would want to witness while sitting inside a theater. Sure there are scenes with dialogue, but the content is all there in that trailer to predict what exactly happens throughout the film.
With games it's a lot like jealousy. I don't want to necessarily spend $60 if I'm watching some footage online and I lose the enjoyment of progress. I don't mind controlled footage where someone gets an idea without worrying that they'll give something away that takes hours to get to.
It's about the journey. I'm paying $10 for a movie ticket and I feel like we can control movies better.
Then you have different types of gamers. Those who don't care about the story and others who do. Some want to see the last boss in Dark Souls before they even see their first bonfire. I'd rather this be like Catherine. It was a pure enjoyment from start to finish. It felt like a journey that wanted my attention. It wasn't thrown at my face with knowing what goes on 10-15 hours in.
I'm use to controlled footage. This isn't new if you ask me. Game magazines had some screenshots, but nothing compared to today's online variety.
With games it's a lot like jealousy. I don't want to necessarily spend $60 if I'm watching some footage online and I lose the enjoyment of progress. I don't mind controlled footage where someone gets an idea without worrying that they'll give something away that takes hours to get to.
It's about the journey. I'm paying $10 for a movie ticket and I feel like we can control movies better.
Then you have different types of gamers. Those who don't care about the story and others who do. Some want to see the last boss in Dark Souls before they even see their first bonfire. I'd rather this be like Catherine. It was a pure enjoyment from start to finish. It felt like a journey that wanted my attention. It wasn't thrown at my face with knowing what goes on 10-15 hours in.
I'm use to controlled footage. This isn't new if you ask me. Game magazines had some screenshots, but nothing compared to today's online variety.
IronLich
Member
Sadly, worldwide release is out of the question for a smaller publisher like Atlus. And Japan is their big bottom line, financially, so Japan would have gotten Persona 5 first regardless. A shame that the localization qualms made the delay longer.
R_thanatos
Member
No it's alright ..
You'll be fine , the crazy train is not fixed to a single date , and if it is , it's not that one.
Trust me , they are... Most channel with vids managed to get vids thanks to tricks , the smallers ones like mine definitly got strikes.
SolicitorPirate
Member
I am very skeptical of that claim.
Admittedly I'm less familiar with Zero Escape and Firewatch, but I doubt Life is Strange or Hatoful Boyfriend would have done anyway near as well as they did if they weren't streamed and let's played by basically everyone on earth
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Skimming a few Youtube vids and comments, some folks are claiming some vids are already getting hit by strikes. Big grain of salt of course, given its Youtube comments.
gregor7777
Banned
Hi Atlus - go fuck yourself.
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
Exactly, I only bought Life is Strange and Oxenfree because I watched streams of them.
Of course, I couldn't remember the name Oxenfree and had to google "scary game teenagers talking" but they still got my money.
Immortal Technique
Member
Atlus saved my ass. I was going to settle in for a solid week of watching Persona 5 streams. How would I have known that streams of people playing the game would contain spoilers? My experience would have been ruined. Atlus is really looking out for me.
UltimateUnknown
Member
I'm loving Persona 5 to bits right now but I'm sorry, wtf is this?
Seriously the game is once in a lifetime great enough that it can stand on its own two feet without any of this BS. The gameplay experience is sublime with an amazing story on top. Not the mention the game just looks eye-searingly good. Let people share and show that amazing experience to as many others as possible.
Seriously Atlus, don't bring bad press on to this masterpiece for no apparent reason. If people don't want spoilers then they won't be watching videos. I'm sure there will be many players who would benefit from boss fight strategy videos on merciless difficulty (Elizabeth comes to mind for me) and various completion/trophy guide videos.
Seriously the game is once in a lifetime great enough that it can stand on its own two feet without any of this BS. The gameplay experience is sublime with an amazing story on top. Not the mention the game just looks eye-searingly good. Let people share and show that amazing experience to as many others as possible.
Seriously Atlus, don't bring bad press on to this masterpiece for no apparent reason. If people don't want spoilers then they won't be watching videos. I'm sure there will be many players who would benefit from boss fight strategy videos on merciless difficulty (Elizabeth comes to mind for me) and various completion/trophy guide videos.
I guess Atlus will not ban Wikipedia as well. You have to love the audacity of them casually threatening their customers while talking about how excited they are for people to play their 6 months old game.
If someone is spoiling themselves by watching streams then that's on them, not the streamers and you can't police around like this. They seem like they are still stuck in the past.
If someone is spoiling themselves by watching streams then that's on them, not the streamers and you can't police around like this. They seem like they are still stuck in the past.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Wait, you already got a strike relating to this P5 policy?
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
They'll just try to find workarounds for things like the "don't post videos after this in-game date" bit.
I don't get what's happening here?
Pai Pai Master
Banned
The "can't take a screenshot right now" message when you get a trophy just adds insult to injury.
Silver Arrows
Banned
Atlustube works fucking fast.
Iva Demilcol
Member
He was streaming the Japanese version.
They are putting a screenshot of the day over where the date would normally be displayed. This would make it so a automated system wouldn't be able to tell when the streamer has reached 7/7