I recommend you don't walk this path. This thread already had casualties.
What the fuck are we doing on Gies then?
This was mostly a joke about how bought these guys are.Does anyone here want Gies fired?
I don't think so.
That is the only possible reason for asking that question, that you think the poster had some influence on the guy being fired (or resigning, or whatever) with a comment on a message board. Otherwise you cherry picked from a very well written post to engage in snark. Either way, it's funny.
Man, Gaf's a cold place today. Seems like nerds have a lack of empathy after all.
You never made a stupid mistake? Never? Would you have wanted to lose your job over it?
Leave the man alone.
Well you're wrong.
Sorry.
I think you're wrong. Gies is a different monster though.
Well, I'm not convinced. Sorry. If you would like to explain, feel free.
It really astounds me that it's fucking 2013 and people still haven't learned that just because you have a social media platform that you can get away with saying dumb shit. If I worked at a high profile company like MS, Sony, Google or whatever I wouldn't even associate myself with my employer at all.
I have literally no idea what you think would be so bad in that that you fear for my account safety, but thanks?
If you post on GAF and blame "GAF" for causing issues, then you're not really thinking things through. This is not a ban worthy comment.
This comment seemingly got a gaffer banned in this thread.No because gaf has a holier than thou attitude, is condescending, and entitled.
Take your assumptions and answer them with "No."
This comment seemingly got a gaffer banned in this thread.
I would avoid talking about gaf as an individual altogether, specially trying to put some burden over it. But maybe the ban was unrelated.
I think GAF certainly played some role in bringing it to public attention and putting the tweets into the context of always-online for Durango. I remember NeoGAF was explicitly mentioned by various sites, such as German tech site Golem.
Isn't it funny how the character limit actually limits people's character on Twitter?Good. The more people that ruin their livelihoods over fucking Twitter the sooner that shit show fades away into irrelevancy. Hope that 144 characters was worth it.
Yeah, I would too. Which is what both my posts say. "Don't act like GAF is a homogenous hive mind and certainly do not act like you're somehow above that if you post here." For clarity's sake. Good looking out though
Isn't it funny how the character limit actually limits people's character on Twitter?
Employees with access to sensitive information and/or a high profile on the net should be given some training or training materials on the use of these tools much like professional sports leagues are beginning to do. Such training would have helped Matt Mitrione in recent days.
Nice!Isn't it funny how the character limit actually limits people's character on Twitter?
Yeah well, i got another whole meaning from it (as always, english not being my first language), so that's why I tried to warn you. Now it's much more clear!
Does anyone here want Gies fired?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure the people here gobsmacked about someone getting fired over this have never had a job in a corporation.
Companies are incredibly strict with any kind of leak information, and they make it extremely clear to everyone that they are not supposed to public comment at all about unannounced projects. Many of them also explicitly state you will be fired if you comment in public about anything they tell you is forbidden.
So, that is the reason he was terminated.
Man, Gaf's a cold place today. Seems like nerds have a lack of empathy after all.
You never made a stupid mistake? Never? Would you have wanted to lose your job over it?
Leave the man alone.
Employees with access to sensitive information and/or a high profile on the net should be given some training or training materials on the use of these tools much like professional sports leagues are beginning to do. Such training would have helped Matt Mitrione in recent days.
"That guy who leaked information for our next big risk/investment in a bad way, further kicking up a negativity duststorm around our product" might be how MS remembered it.
Orth certainly seemed to lack empathy for all the people out there who would be negatively affected by always online. But now we should feel sorry for him because the things he voluntarily stated in a public forum cost him his job?
I'm not really sure how I feel about this. Yeah he was incredibly stupid to post that crap and he created a PR-nightmare for Microsoft. However, he's still a human and we all make mistakes or say dumb shit sometimes. I don't think someone should be fired if he fucks up 1 time, but I have no idea how he did at work.
People should realize the power of social media though. Twitter and Facebook can destroy your careers.
Why are you so mad? Didn't he disrespect people first online? Why aren't you mad at him for what he said?
How a guy with the attitude of a videogame store smartass got a job at MS, I'll never know.
I'm pretty sure the people here gobsmacked about someone getting fired over this have never had a job in a corporation.
Companies are incredibly strict with any kind of leak information, and they make it extremely clear to everyone that they are not supposed to public comment at all about unannounced projects. Many of them also explicitly state you will be fired if you comment in public about anything they tell you is forbidden.
So, that is the reason he was terminated.
Looking back at that quote, the irony is palpable considering how much he didn't get it.THE INTERNET IS GREAT, YOU PEOPLE SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER GETTING IT.
sunhi being sunhi
When I was a kid this stinky weird kid saw me take a marker from my teacher so I could use it at home. The next morning before I put the marker back my teacher with horrible shit breath and a fupa the size of small bean bag searched my bag and found the marker. She yelled at me, informed my mom I was a thief, and gave me detention for a week.
I took the marker so it was my fault right? Yes it was
Does taking a single marker without permission for 16 hours actually matter? No it does not
Should that kid just have kept his mouth shut? Hell yes, this kid thought he was being some sort of hero for his teacher. Instead all it did was make my life suck for a couple weeks and my mom possibly think I was a thief. All because of a mother fucking marker...
What you guys need to realize before you go on one of these heroic crusades for internet justice is this. You guys acted like a bunch a manbabies on the internet, causing this huge uproar because some dude said some dumb shit. Your uproar got so big, that you got this man fired; and for what? Because he said a thing that you disagreed with, not a important social issue or something like this that would warrant such an outrage. No, you got him fired because of his opinion on gaming...
What if he goes home and kills himself? You guys don't know him, he could be depressed. What if he flips out and hurts someone? You don't know if he has mental issues.
All I can hope for is for some of you, before you post stuff like this, think about what you are actually upset about. Are videogames really a thing to devote your venom and hate towards?
Please don't pretend either that GAF didn't get this man fired either. You absolutely did.
Very unfortunate turn of events. The guy lost his livelihood because of a couple of twitter brain farts. Since he was in a fairly high corporate position, I imagine he and his family is ok financially for the near future.
And now that this is over, hopefully all those who contributed to this faux internet outrage will be applying their skills to more worthwhile social causes. There is plenty in the world to be legitimately angry about.
your (our) reaction about his comments:being mad/disagreeing with his commentsAssume his comments reflect Microsoft's strategy for next-gen. Decide to go with Sony.
longterm consequences for him: unemplo<ment + a story that won't make it easy to get another job in the business.
Not really balanced, right?
I'm not really sure how I feel about this. Yeah he was incredibly stupid to post that crap and he created a PR-nightmare for Microsoft. However, he's still a human and we all make mistakes or say dumb shit sometimes. I don't think someone should be fired if he fucks up 1 time, but I have no idea how he did at work.
People should realize the power of social media though. Twitter and Facebook can destroy your careers.
Gies spews shit left and right and people may hate his opinion, but in the end its fun to have someone being so straight-up ignorant about a lot of things that it makes it looks hilariously silly. I don't think anyone wants him to be fired (unless they had a virtually personal altercation with him). We just want a different person to represent the voice of reason, but there aren't a lot of them stepping up who also post here.
Gies also throws bombs from his protected ivory tower of Twitter, where has has no accountability and nobody can actually refute his ignorant claims/ideas. I'd love to see him step back into NeoGAF in a heavily moderated thread to keep out the obvious trolls, where he can defend his position in a public forum.
Why are you so mad? Didn't he disrespect people first online? Why aren't you mad at him for what he said?
Fixed. It doesn't even matter that the guy was being a dick on Twitter. He was spreading either misinformation or unauthorized information about the company he works for, negatively affecting the purchasing decisions of a large group of potential customers.
Good. The more people that ruin their livelihoods over fucking Twitter the sooner that shit show fades away into irrelevancy. Hope that 144 characters was worth it.
Why do people hate Twitter so much? It's like hating video cameras people people do dumb things in front of them.