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Alan Wake not on PC?

Vast Inspiration said:
My "agenda" is to point out the difference in expectations amongst PC gamers for publishers.
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Not to be flippant, but I would have thought the reason for the difference is pretty blindingly obvious.

There's no more expectation out there of Sony supporting PC as Nintendo supporting Playstation. MS has a pretty different relationship with PC than that.
 
Stoney Mason said:
Yes they did that in the past when they didn't have a console to focus on and compete with other console manufactuers. Times and businesses change and if that wasn't clear a number of years ago with Halo then this would be a perfect time for it to be crystal clear.(And just to repeat I still think its too early to say if this one is coming to the PC or not)
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well, its only recently they fully stopped supporting the PC. They always advertise the gaming capabilities for their OS, so I'm not surprised to see people expecting MGS games to come to the pc.
 
KHarvey16 said:
"I might pick up Fable 2 if it came out" is "incessantly scrambling" and "expecting?"
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He said he wouldn't be surprised if it came out. Which means he "expects" it.
And unless you're usually challenged with reading comprehension, I take it you took my words out of context on purpose. Otherwise you would know that I was taking about the broader clamouring for games such as Gears and Halo.

And are you really going to pretend that PC gamers DON'T want Microsoft's games? Ever since Microsoft entered the console space and started putting major resources into console games, PC gamers have wanted ports. Thats not up for debate.
 
sprocket said:
why would you want to play it on console when you could have a better version for less?


PC games now days are pretty exactly like playing them on the consoles except for the expanded options.

ever played a game like DMC4 with 8x AA running at a solid 60 fps with a 360 controller?


They big point for console multiplatform games is that the games almost always come out before the PC version.
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Enter thread derail into comfy couch, Xbox Live, etc PC versus console gaming debate. Sigh.

I will buy Modern Warfare 2 on the console even though I have a perfectly capable PC. I will buy Alan Wake on the Xbox even though I have a perfectly capable PC. Stop asking people this question because it's different and unique for each person and has nothing to do with anything about why Microsoft should be supporting PC gaming above the 360 in general. And to repeat once again I understand the specific dissappointment with this particular title but not the general attitude that exists regarding that support issue.
 
Stoney Mason said:
Halo was going to be a PC franchise too but I don't still see many PC owners sulking over that one because the PC will get plenty of games period.
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Most bungie fans go where they go and PC gamers were over Halo as it was originally intended for MAC, it going xbox was just another shot in the balls. Late ports that offer no advantages and are like halo broke turned most of them off considering the fps realm was filled with products just as good if not better in a lot of respects.
 
Vast Inspiration said:
He said he wouldn't be surprised if it came out. Which means he "expects" it.
And unless you're usually challenged with reading comprehension, I take it you took my words out of context on purpose. Otherwise you would know that I was taking about the broader clamouring for games such as Gears and Halo.

And are you really going to pretend that PC gamers DON'T want Microsoft's games? Ever since Microsoft entered the console space and started putting major resources into console games, PC gamers have wanted ports. Thats not up for debate.
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"Want, "would like" and "love to have" is not expectation, entitlement or demands. I would love to play every game ever released on my PC.
 
It is going to get PC release but with separate release dates... Or maybe not. I'm still going to buy it !

EDIT: Dam, Finnish gaming mag Pelaajalehti has some new screens of the game and it looks soooooo good (day time shots !).
 
Wait, there are people who don't understand why 360 games are "expected" to appear on the PC? And is somehow outraged that people would expect a PC version of a game...that's always been announced for the PC in the first place?

I would love to know how many times it took some of your mothers dropping you into vats of alcohol when you were a baby in order for you to not comprehend these relationships.
 
bj00rn_ said:
I bet there are plenty of those of us with computers good enough to handle games like Mirrors Edge in 60fps around here but still choose to play it on a console. I guess in an elitist mind the world seems complicated and different, but in the end some of us simply prefer to enjoy videogames.
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And what are the specs of your mac?
 
Damn it Remedy. Shouldn't have signed up with MSGS.

I'm a HUGE fan of the Max Payne series and it is pretty fucked up to me that MS is going to not only apparently push the release dates apart, but no longer talk about the PC version. Max Payne was an excellent PC centric franchise that really shined on the platform, and I was hoping that Alan Wake would do the same. The Vista exclusivity pissed me off already. I guess the only reason Microsoft bothers releasing games at all anymore is to sell hardware or push a new OS.

MSGS has pretty much abandoned PC gaming from a game development standpoint and it sucks. :(



BTW, this thread got really retarded. Why the fuck was anyone talking about the PS3 in this thread? Why the hell is some dude trolling PC gaming?
 
Davidion said:
Wait, there are people who don't understand why 360 games are more "expected" to appear on the PC? And is somehow outraged that people would expect a PC version of a game...that's always been announced for the PC in the first place?
I would love to know how many times it took some of your mothers dropping you into a vat of alcohol when you were a baby in order for you to not comprehend these relationships.
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Already dealt with the bolded. And Microsoft has clearly shown where their focus is on via PC gaming versus the 360. I suggest people who express mock shock at this state of affairs have been in deep freeze for the past 5 years.
 
Stoney Mason said:
Already dealt with the bolded. And Microsoft has clearly shown where there focus is on via PC gaming versus the 360. I suggest people who express mock shock at this state of affairs have been in deep freeze for the past 5 years.
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I think people were hoping that Remedy signed up with Microsoft under the agreement that the PC version would be at least equal priority as the 360 version. That's certainly what I was hoping.
 
Davidion said:
Wait, there are people who don't understand why 360 games are "expected" to appear on the PC? And is somehow outraged that people would expect a PC version of a game...that's always been announced for the PC in the first place?

I would love to know how many times it took some of your mothers dropping you into vats of alcohol when you were a baby in order for you to not comprehend these relationships.
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to the 360 hardocre..

The 360 being close to PCs in development is a good thing but PCs being close to the 360 in development is a bad thing. :/
 
BobsRevenge said:
I think people were hoping that Remedy signed up with Microsoft under the agreement that the PC version would be at least equal priority as the 360 version. That's certainly what I was hoping.
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As I said I understand some dissappointment with this title even though nothing has been confirmed at all at this stage. There is a larger issue here though that the Microsoft should be supporting PC gaming first and foremost I've seen both in and out of this thread which is the only real issue I'm arguing. I hope it does come out for the PC. I always suppport multi-platform titles but I've not going to pretend I don't understand why they don't happen in certain cases.
 
Stoney Mason said:
Already dealt with the bolded. And Microsoft has clearly shown where there focus is on via PC gaming versus the 360. I suggest people who express mock shock at this state of affairs have been in deep freeze for the past 5 years.
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Unless I'm mistaken, less focus does not by any means necessarily translate into pursuing, and then cancelling platform releases.

I'm pretty sure that if the PS3 was hypothetically discontinued as a hardware platform tomorrow, citing the PS3's poor performance wouldn't really do much to explain away user expectations.
 
Best game they demoed at the conference, imo. You win this one, Microsoft. I'll buy it wherever it appears.

Of course, I - like any other gamer - would prefer the PC version if given the choice.


ghst said:
it's not good business to have a far superior version on an open platform for a lower price.
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:(

Ironic that a platform can be too good for its own good.
 
Davidion said:
Unless I'm mistaken, less focus does not by any means necessarily translate into pursuing, and then cancelling platform releases.

I'm pretty sure that if the PS3 was hypothetically discontinued as a hardware platform tomorrow, citing the PS3's poor performance wouldn't really do much to explain away user expectations.
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In a world of limited resources and a console battle focus, the reality is that more focus often does translate into cancelling platform releases or Microsoft wouldn't have their biggest franchise in Halo. Or Epic would have ported Gears 2 to the PC by now. Whether that is right or wrong or just a circumstance of consoles wars is another debate.

And I don't understand the second point you make about the Ps3 (not a knock I just don't get what the analogy is) so explain what you are going for and I'll respond to what you are saying.
 
Vast Inspiration said:
"Wouldn't be surprised if it came" IS expectation. Moron.
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No it isn't. With your apparent inability to grasp the mystical art of English, you probably shouldn't be calling other people morons.
 
Vast Inspiration said:
He said he wouldn't be surprised if it came out. Which means he "expects" it.
And unless you're usually challenged with reading comprehension...
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this made me laugh
 
Wait, what the fuck? Screw you OP for distorting the quote that this entire thread is based on.

Remedy has not said shit about the PC version being "Up in the air"


Read the full quote:
- Perhaps the biggest surprise is that Remedy haven’t spoken about the PC version of the game yet and the release of a PC version is up in the air. When asked about it Remedy replied saying that both Microsoft and them are only speaking about the Xbox 360 version at the moment.
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Being "up in the air" is Skoal's own words, not Remedy's.

The only thing Remedy has said is that "they're only speaking about the 360 version at the moment"
 
Oh shit I forgot that this was announced as a Vista exclusive way back when. :lol

I remember reading that this will be "the reason to get a quad-core in the future"


Poor Remedy, what happened? :/
 
Stoney Mason said:
In a world of limited resources and a console battle focus the reality is that more focus often does translate into cancelling platform releases or Micrsoft wouldn't have their biggest franchise in Halo. Whether that is right or wrong or just a circumstance of consoles wars is another debate.

And I don't understand the second point you make about the Ps3 (not a knock I just don't get what the analogy is) so explain what you are going for and I'll respond to what you are saying.
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The point is that despite priorities and platform strengths and weaknesses, cancellations are still a reasonably surprising and drastic move for any software developer/publisher.

I wouldn't disagree if this was complaining about some game that was 360-centric in the first place. But to say that it's unreasonable for PC gamers to not expect a game for their platform of choice when it was already announced it in the first place is just as silly as lambasting someone for being upset about any of their anticipated games being cancelled.

Jtyettis said:
wat
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Hey, typos happen!
 
dLMN8R said:
Wait, what the fuck? Screw you OP for distorting the quote that this entire thread is based on.

Remedy has not said shit about the PC version being "Up in the air"


Read the full quote:Being "up in the air" is Skoal's own words, not Remedy's.

The only thing Remedy has said is that "they're only speaking about the 360 version at the moment"
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Good luck! Tried that already, not many seem to care :(.
 
dLMN8R said:
Wait, what the fuck? Screw you OP for distorting the quote that this entire thread is based on.

Remedy has not said shit about the PC version being "Up in the air"


Read the full quote:Being "up in the air" is Skoal's own words, not Remedy's.

The only thing Remedy has said is that "they're only speaking about the 360 version at the moment"
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usually "we're only talking about X" means "Y" is up in the air.
 
Wait, is the idea that it isn't coming to PC at all accepted as fact now? I could've sworn that all that was going on was that the X360 version was given priority, but nothing about the PC edition being canceled.

Maybe it's just me thinking this, but as far as MS and their support for Windows as a gaming platform goes, well...they seem to have this cyclical feast or famine deal going on. They seem to put more out there, game-wise, in the first half of an OS' cycle than the latter half. I figure that Alan Wake, a 2010 game, will show up as part of their bid to get people to upgrade to Win 7.
 
Vast Inspiration said:
"Wouldn't be surprised if it came" IS expectation. Moron.
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Dude, Alan Wake has always been a PC/360 game, hence the expectation. Remedy is traditionally known as a PC centric developer, helping that expectation. Stop raping this thread with pointless shit-talking. Of course this game was expected to come out on PC, and at the same time as 360, because that's what has been announced/assumed since the game was revealed.

Why would you bring Sony into this? How does that make any sense at all. Microsoft owns the damn operating system. PC games are released on their platform. It would usually make sense for them to support that platform (unfortunately it doesn't in their mind, which is awkward from a business perspective). Now they don't seem to be doing it at all with their games and that's hugely disappointing, because they've got some great properties they could put on it.

Makes me really glad that EA is publishing Bioware games now so I don't have to worry about MS fucking up their PC releases too. It'd suck if ME2 went the way of Fable 2 and didn't get a PC release.
 
dLMN8R said:
Wait, what the fuck? Screw you OP for distorting the quote that this entire thread is based on.

Remedy has not said shit about the PC version being "Up in the air"


Read the full quote:Being "up in the air" is Skoal's own words, not Remedy's.

The only thing Remedy has said is that "they're only speaking about the 360 version at the moment"
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The up in the air comment could mean a couple of things. Meaning they are talking about a later release, or not at all, or simply that more of the marketing power will be put towards the 360 version.

But I agree at your general sentiment that roid rage at this unconfirmed information is overdone at this stage. And with that I'll probably exit the thread. I've sort of made the points I wanted to anyway. Hopefully the Pc gets it version and PC gamers can be happy. Although this won't change anything about where Microsoft is keeping their focus for the forseeable future when it comes to gaming.

Davidion said:
I wouldn't disagree if this was complaining about some game that was 360-centric in the first place. But to say that it's unreasonable for PC gamers to not expect a game for their platform of choice when it was already announced it in the first place is just as silly as lambasting someone for being upset about any of their anticipated games being cancelled.
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Go back and read my posts and you'll see that nothing I've posted contradicts anything in your post here or invalidates the specific case. I've consistently talked about the larger case which is a big pet peeve of mine on gaf and this specific example allows a good examination in the general case argument. And you have plenty of PC centric gamers in this thread who have been the exact example of the general case I'm speaking to.

dfyb said:
i don't understand how you can mock an opinion and then express it yourself in the same thread. or am i reading that wrong?
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Because Microsoft isn't PC gaming. They are not the crucible on which PC gaming stands. PC gaming hasn't died because Microsoft moved away from it. Which is the entire point. So when some PC gamers adopt this attitude they are the ones expressing a phony dilemma. That Microsoft both have an obligation and a sacred duty to place PC gaming first even though the very existence and continual life of the platform is a testament to the exact opposite reality of that statement or false belief.
 
Vast Inspiration said:
THIS. This expectation is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Their is an obvious expectation for games like Gears, Halo, Fable to eventually make their way on to the PC. Microsoft has done so before with a delay BECAUSE pc gamers have been "incessantly scrambling" for them.

Point exactly. And those pc gamers that think that Microsoft owes them something are usually the ones down on the 360 and owners of the PS3. Surprise surprise.
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"I might pick up Fable 2 if it came out" is "incessantly scrambling" and "expecting?"
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Pretty much this. :lol I don't own a 360, and I don't have a nice TV, and I don't have plans to make the investment to buy either. If a game comes out for PC, that's nice, I might get it. If it doesn't come out for a system I own, I probably won't. :)
 
Stoney Mason said:
Microsoft killed/is killing PC gaming!!!!!!


is what certain segments of gaf likes to harp on.
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Stoney Mason said:
The up in the air comment could mean a couple of things. Meaning they are talking about a later release, or not at all, or simply that more of the marketing power will be put towards the 360.

But I agree roid rage at this unconfirmed information is overdone at this stage. And with that I'll probably exit the thread. I've sort of made the points I wanted to anyway. Hopefully the Pc gets it version and PC gamers can be happy. Although this won't change anything about where Microsoft is keeping their focus for the forseeable future when it comes to gaming.
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i don't understand how you can mock an opinion and then express it yourself in the same thread. or am i reading that wrong?
 
Davidion said:
No it isn't. With your apparently inability to grasp the mystical art of English, you probably shouldn't be calling other people morons.
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WOW. WOW. ...... WOW. Now don't you feel like an idiot after editing that?

KHarvey16 said:
Expectation is active, not being surprised is passive. This is tough for you, huh?
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Semantics. In this discussion. They are one in the same. Too hard for you to have a grown up discussion, huh?
 
Vast Inspiration said:
WOW. WOW. ...... WOW. Now don't you feel like an idiot after editing that?


Semantics. In this discussion. They are one in the same. Too hard for you to have a grown up discussion, huh?
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I typed something wrong, you're too stupid to speak English properly. So, no, I'm pretty sure you've the idiot crown.
 
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