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"All men cheat" and no-one seems to care.
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John Rabbit
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you're using the word "genetic" wrong and have been this entire thread.BocoDragon said:True. The thing is, again on that genetic basis, a womans biggest worry would be that you have emotional feelings for the other women, and you leave her and stop taking care of her, giving her resources, etc.
If you just slept with some other chick, even got her pregnant.. Well as long as you stick with the real girlfriend and raise her baby, there's no genetic loss for the girlfriend at all.
But if SHE cheats? Well, any sex might leave you raising another mans child. The other man will have cockblocked her womb, and depending on circumstances may have doomed your genetic line.
dinazimmerman
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Cheating men = men who are still attractive at some level (they can still get chicks).
Your wife telling herself that you could cheat on her if you wanted to (and that it is surprising that you haven't cheated yet)... is really about your wife convincing herself that she's "done the right thing" and married an attractive (read: genetically fit) man.
Of course, at a different time, when her hormone levels are different, "having done the right thing" won't be "having married an attractive man," it will be "having married a safe and faithful potential-father-of-my-children."
Your wife telling herself that you could cheat on her if you wanted to (and that it is surprising that you haven't cheated yet)... is really about your wife convincing herself that she's "done the right thing" and married an attractive (read: genetically fit) man.
Of course, at a different time, when her hormone levels are different, "having done the right thing" won't be "having married an attractive man," it will be "having married a safe and faithful potential-father-of-my-children."
BocoDragon said:It's a trade off, though. If you're some average beta male, it makes more sense to enter a mutual non-cheating contract with a woman. Then you both guarantee yourself well raised offspring. Which us why I say "appearance" of monogamy. If he gets away with cheating, then yeah, it's still good for his genes I suppose.
Absolutely agreed, which is why I said that monogamy has (surprisingly) benefited far more men than it has women.
Maxwell House
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The biggest fallacy in this thread is the idea that men like sex more than women and that men are more likely to cheat. Women like to fuck just as much as we do and are just as likely to cheat.
MWS Natural
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gkryhewy said:
Friends, family members, acquaintances, friends of friends. Pretty much any man who is still found desirable by women other than his wife.
Thagomizer
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MWS Natural said:
Are we talking "Hide the sausage" cheating, or "drunken make-out" cheating?
Both are bad and both are cheating, mind, but are different levels of the act.
Mailenstein
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Heard that often coming from women, but my experience tells me that women are bigger cheaters than men and it seems like they are more comfortable with the overall fact than men are.
You can tell your wife that I (28) never cheated on a woman and never would.
You can tell your wife that I (28) never cheated on a woman and never would.
MWS Natural
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Thagomizer said:
Putting their dicks in another woman's pussy. Not sure about all of these other phrases you are using.
Lambtron said:
This is how I feel and I don't see that changing. Also, if I were cheated on, I would want to know about it. The thought of living my life with someone who cheated on me but never told just... it grinds my gears man.
Maxwell House said:
I would agree with this. In fact I know of more women personally that have cheated than I know of men.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
george_us said:
Well that's horseshit. Fighting tooth and nail? My GF is my 5th GF. I had no problems getting a girl before, I just had a problem finding a normal one. Since you went ahead and quoted me allow me to tell you something: for my friend's 22nd birthday party three years ago, we all went out to this nice place, partied, had some food, drinks, etc. Now, my girlfriend wasn't there, she was at work. My friend had invited this girl he's good friends with. Everybody at this club was feeling her, trying to dance and talk to her. But she'd only cock tease them, wouldn't give them the time of day at all.
But eventually, she decides to try to get to know me and starts getting really close. I pass on her advances, as I'd move her hand away from my upper thigh, off my shoulder, or her head off my shoulder. I told her I had a GF a few times too. I guess to a dumb bitch like her this becomes a challenge. So she keeps the act up all night, until it's time for all of us to leave. As we're exchanging goodbyes, I make sure to keep my distance from her in hopes of avoiding a goodbye. That didn't work as she jumped on me and kissed me right on the lips.
What's the point of this story? It's not to gloat that I can get teh bitchez son. The point is that I went home and I told my girlfriend. She wasn't mad at me at all...but she did want to kill this chick, understandably so. So no, I didn't fight tooth and nail for shit. I am this way because I'm a decent and honest human being.
I haven't cheated after dating different girls for some 15-16 years. I rather like monogamy and I cannot separate physical intimacy from emotional intimacy, and trying to do that never seems to work out, despite history's best intentions.
Plus, it's not like I got girls knocking at my door. To think I could easily cheat is a big egotistical.
Plus, it's not like I got girls knocking at my door. To think I could easily cheat is a big egotistical.
Vicetrailia
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I got cheated on once in a really bad way, I was a total bitch ass fool. She took my claims of weirdness, put it back on me and I fell for it. Sneaky ass women.
It hurt when she was cheating on me, but at the breakup section of the relationship I was a monster towards her. Fast forwards 5 months and shes calling me again. I can't help but laugh at the fact that anyone would do that. So ignored.
It hurt when she was cheating on me, but at the breakup section of the relationship I was a monster towards her. Fast forwards 5 months and shes calling me again. I can't help but laugh at the fact that anyone would do that. So ignored.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Exactly.zoku88 said:
The person who said I was using the word wrong obviously thinks that "Genetic" implies "unique genetics" - as in, this individual acts this ways because of his unique genes, and other people will act differently because they have different genes. (and maybe that is the common convention) But I don't mean that.
It's "genetic" in the sense that these are the strategies that, given different reproductive roles, each gender might play out in order to maximize the reproduction of their genes.
Pertaining to genes: Genetic. The word was used correctly.
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Simon Belmont said:
that won't ever completely disappear. Women have to have babies.
Maxwell House
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Lol you are completely wrong.george_us said:
Already posted? Great Eddie Murphy bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGu_jtGQ8NI&feature=watch_response
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGu_jtGQ8NI&feature=watch_response
NintendoGal
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Having cheated in the past and having the man not lambaste me (in the verbal sense) for doing so made it not such a big issue. I felt if the guys I've done it to gave more of a fuck, then perhaps, I don't know. I wouldn't do it ever again, but that's personal reasons and not because I'd probably get a free pass.
Then thinking about it again, not being yelled at for doing it or scorned is worse than being yelled at because you just have this shame that no one but yourself can make worse.
Just my thoughts on the subject.
Then thinking about it again, not being yelled at for doing it or scorned is worse than being yelled at because you just have this shame that no one but yourself can make worse.
Just my thoughts on the subject.
dreamcastmaster
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I think the reason she says she does not care is becuase what she really wants to say is "She's given up worrying about it" Now you cannot stop a partner from cheating, they either will or won't and you'll drive yourself crazy paranoid thinking about it. By saying you dont care you can take control of the situation, stop worrying and concentrate on more important matters.
On the other hand it could be the classic womans trick to get information out of you by saying they dont care when really they do.
On the other hand it could be the classic womans trick to get information out of you by saying they dont care when really they do.
Byakuya769
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RiZ III said:
This, my friends, is a guy who's been cheated on.
Byakuya769
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G-Fex said:
When a wave of posters come into these threads and argue against commonly verified statistics to say "women cheat more!!!11!!" I don't take issue with the thought that women are perfectly capable of cheating; I do take issue with the realization that it is just bitter gaf shitting on women in another thread, though.
Then we have other gaffers so damn sure that Deacon's wife is cheating/wants to cheat because they had an open conversation in a marriage. I'm sorry kids, but that's what adults do when they are with each other a long time. At first I thought people were just saying it to be funny (though remarkably predictable), but it definitely seems like people are very serious with that sentiment, and I think it's laughable. ALMOST as laughable as "I've never thought about cheating, and any individual who does it is a shitty person." (obviously this isn't all directed at you, just using your post as a springing board)
The Shadow
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G-Fex said:
It kind of is. Think back to before the pill was available.
A woman's risk of cheating was 9 months of pregnancy plus 18 or so years of child rearing. There is NO doubt that she cheated if she got pregnant unless she could convince her SO that it was his.
A guys risk of cheating was virtually nil. No DNA test and he could just say it wasn't him. No evidence means his word is all the SO has.
It wasn't long ago that this scenario was true. Evolution is still driving our decision making based on that. IE, women are far less likely to cheat because the risks are (were) higher for them.
Cheating isn't always black and white and relationships shouldn't end over cheating necessarily. A partner can still redeem themselves if they are a great enough person. A LOT of people cheat, it doesn't make sense to discard a great person who made a mistake only to end up with a lesser person overall who ends up cheating on you anyway.
LOL @ the evolutionary gene stuff. My ex gf cheated on me because she was a stupid selfish attention craving insecure [blank], not because some 5'5" acid dropping fool or a waiter had more resources or better genetics than me. I'm sure you folks are learned and this probably just goes over my head but it sounds like the soul or human element gets taken out of the conversation. Some people are just fucking loose as all hell. People cheat for a multitude of reasons and even the guy w/the best genes or resources will get cheated on.
:lol @ the guy who cuts off his cheating family and friends. Dude, you'll end up lonely down the line and will look like a hypocrit if you ever cheat between now and the day you die.
No offense to moral-GAF but I'm sure at least a 3rd of you don't have the option to cheat and are patting yourself on the back in order to feel "moral".
LOL @ the evolutionary gene stuff. My ex gf cheated on me because she was a stupid selfish attention craving insecure [blank], not because some 5'5" acid dropping fool or a waiter had more resources or better genetics than me. I'm sure you folks are learned and this probably just goes over my head but it sounds like the soul or human element gets taken out of the conversation. Some people are just fucking loose as all hell. People cheat for a multitude of reasons and even the guy w/the best genes or resources will get cheated on.
:lol @ the guy who cuts off his cheating family and friends. Dude, you'll end up lonely down the line and will look like a hypocrit if you ever cheat between now and the day you die.
No offense to moral-GAF but I'm sure at least a 3rd of you don't have the option to cheat and are patting yourself on the back in order to feel "moral".
yup I agree. A lot of people aren't being grounded in reality.siddx said:
Amen. Not only just uncommon... but taboo. A lot of people are in open relationships and don't even know it yet.chaostrophy said:
:lolDeaconKnowledge said:
:lol and you'll regret this like a MF'er if your GF ever cheats on you. Kidding, I'm only poking fun at myself b/c I've (regretfully) passed up other girls while being faithful to a cheater. You did the right thing.AlphaSnake said:
NintendoGal
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Melchiah said:
Strangely when I did it I didn't have a reason at the time and he just said that to me, not the other way around. He acknowledged that he wasn't around, then I started thinking about it realizing that that's probably a core reason. Not saying it justifies what I did, but sometimes as others say things are not black and white. That's way in the past however, but I figured I'd share. ;p
i love that nobody cares
dreamcastmaster
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YoungHav said:
I could not have put it better myself. I'm a great guy becuase I've never robbed a bank or killed anybody. :lol
PJV3
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Leatherface said:
No, She's allways going on about going there for a dirty weekend, but i just can't be bothered. She hates the idea of me doing something in this country, but if it's over there it doesn't count or something.
I am too fucking lazy to go to another country for a bit of rumpy-pumpy.
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