• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
  • Hey Guest. Check out the NeoGAF 2.2 Update Thread for details on our new Giphy integration and other new features.

All PS4 pre orders post Destiny will support pre load

sjay1994

Member
Dec 13, 2012
11,664
2
0


Just got a message via psn saying watch dogs won't have pre load. Although that's a bummer, the interesting part comes from the fact the note says all games post destiny will support the feature. So that's good to know.
 

PshycoNinja

Member
Jul 10, 2012
6,661
0
0
Los Angeles Area
I just got this message to on my PS4 under the section "From PlayStation".

I could've sworn that when I pre-ordered Watch Dogs they said it would pre-download but I guess not. I am a little bummed about it but what can you do? At least I can start downloading it at 12:01 midnight.
 

sjay1994

Member
Dec 13, 2012
11,664
2
0
I just got this message to on my PS4 under the section "From PlayStation".

I could've sworn that when I pre-ordered Watch Dogs they said it would pre-download but I guess not. I am a little bummed about it but what can you do? At least I can start downloading it at 12:01 midnight.

Pre load was the reason I bought watch dogs via psn in the first place. Well at least I can try the play as you download feature finally.
 

Louis Cyphre

Banned
Jun 5, 2011
5,321
819
470
Did Bungie sign some sort of exclusive rights? I don't get why they have to announce stuff like this months in advance, why not just do it?
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Mar 19, 2014
12,423
533
840
Toronto, CA
Awesome, Microsoft better get pre-loading functionality available as well. I am trying to buy most of my titles digital this time around.
 

calder

Member
Jun 9, 2004
18,546
1
0
Winnipeg
I got this email too. They had already mentioned this at some point but it's nice to have it explained plainly. I think the midnight download (11pm for me) for WD is more interesting, should be able to play some before I go to bed on Monday. My PSN downloads usually hit "playable" in under an hour.
 

Militant17

Member
May 9, 2013
625
1
0
Well on the AU PS store it has Watch Dogs for preload. I pre ordered it, it had a countdown clock which ended tonight, my PS4 downloaded and installed the game. I have it sitting on my dash waiting for it to unlock and it's killing me.
 

bidguy

Banned
Feb 5, 2013
9,400
1
0
is this feature so hard to implement that both sony and ms cant get their shit together ?
 

K' Dash

Member
Sep 7, 2006
9,420
542
1,440
At least it will be ready to play on tuesday when I come from work, even with my shitty internet.

Well on the AU PS store it has Watch Dogs for preload. I pre ordered it, it had a countdown clock which ended tonight, my PS4 downloaded and installed the game. I have it sitting on my dash waiting for it to unlock and it's killing me.

Pics?
 

styl3s

Member
Nov 8, 2009
9,393
2
910
I just got this message to on my PS4 under the section "From PlayStation".

I could've sworn that when I pre-ordered Watch Dogs they said it would pre-download but I guess not. I am a little bummed about it but what can you do? At least I can start downloading it at 12:01 midnight.
12:01 EST or PST? I got the physical but it seems like whenever i would get something off PSN it would be 12:01 PST which is 3:01 EST and that was very annoying.
 

macewank

Member
Oct 15, 2006
1,540
0
980
is this feature so hard to implement that both sony and ms cant get their shit together ?

in all honesty? probably yes. there are a lot of considerations when you decide to allow people to download games before they're out. it's not as simple as "encrypt it", because encryption can be broken. they need to make sure it's done right.

could realistically see an exploit to the pre-load system being a conduit into firmware exploits, and we all know where that ends up.
 

SDCowboy

Member
Feb 23, 2014
9,156
63
0
This combined with being able to rent games on PS Now will probably make me finally go all digital...eventually. lol
 

bananafactory

Banned
Nov 6, 2013
26,335
3
0
Something is still strange about this, the fact they confirmed 1.7 enables pre-loading but then it doesn't actually get flipped on until September?
 

Adam_Roman

Member
Jun 4, 2013
2,561
0
350
Buffalo, NY
I really hope they eventually add pre-loading for physical copies. I hate having to sit around for a 5-10gb install off the disc with most AAA games, and it wouldn't be hard to do. Just let anyone pre-load the disc's install from the store, since it's not like they could play it just from those files.
 

EventHorizon

Member
Jul 15, 2013
3,714
421
565
in all honesty? probably yes. there are a lot of considerations when you decide to allow people to download games before they're out. it's not as simple as "encrypt it", because encryption can be broken. they need to make sure it's done right.

could realistically see an exploit to the pre-load system being a conduit into firmware exploits, and we all know where that ends up.

No encryption is not easily "broken". It is pretty standard right now and when implemented correctly it is virtually unbreakable. Even easier than that, the asserts of the game take up far more space than the code. Games could predownload the assets and save the code for later, so there would be nothing to hack in the first place. But really, encryption is a solved problem.

This is more than likely a policy problem. The console makers want their games on store shelves as it is advertisement for their systems. If they make online ordering too good, stores might just decide to stop selling the games due to low sales. So when shopping in Wall-mart, little Timmy won't see that copy of Evolve on the shelf and ask mommy to buy it.
 

bananafactory

Banned
Nov 6, 2013
26,335
3
0
Neat. Around what percentage can you start playing usually?

It varies wildly from game to game. I don't recall the percentages or exact DL sizes, but I would say on a 40 GB game I can usually start playing around 7 GB. Believe this was the case with both Knack and Tomb Raider.
 

FlyStarJay

Member
Jul 17, 2013
1,426
0
410
With the way Sony does their thing. I think its cause watchdogs does not need 1.70. Preload is built into 1.70 so when devs are making games preloading will be easier. Thia is my opinion