dragonbane
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What did you pre-order btw?
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Amazon Breaks Video Game Pre-Order Records By PS4/XBO, Up 4000% YoY, 2x Black Friday
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Square Triangle
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No, I'm not. I'm just saying that other retailers who require a deposit have a better "outcome" in my opinion. Having someone provide $100 to reserve is more of a commitment than a "Preorder now" button.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Not irrelevant when the person I was replying to only wanted to speak of specs versus price. Most people buy based on exclusive content, which is the point of a console platform's existence. As well, Kinect's inclusion is a point in the favor of X1 since it's added value, no matter what many who don't care for it say, it has had appeal strong enough to drive sales of more expensive options on the market. We don't even know if and how people will take to the television end of the equation. These are basic features, selling points, exclusive to the platform. It's not about specs, it's about content and feature set as it always has been. Then there's the question of whether or not and and when MS will employ contract-pricing to drive the price below PS4.
ebullientprism
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Where are those people? I remember every "WiiU doing poorly" thread had a bunch of posters going "Do you think X720/PS4 will do any better?".
Yes, I remember those guys too. They featured across multiple forums.
GetemMa
Member
got a PS4 from Target because I had a $100 gift card and a corporate discount. $272 total (awesome)
I had to be one of the first because I was refreshing the product page over and over after the PS4 press conference. Preorder option didn't show up until about 2 AM eastern.
I better get my launch day PS4 Target. Delivered to me. At my feet.
I had to be one of the first because I was refreshing the product page over and over after the PS4 press conference. Preorder option didn't show up until about 2 AM eastern.
I better get my launch day PS4 Target. Delivered to me. At my feet.
Me too. There was even one guy who said that Wii U would get more third party support than PS4/XBO this fall since it already has a bigger install base.
Cancelling a preorder, whether there's money down or not, is not a huge undertaking. It's a matter of a few clicks, either way. It's not something that amounts to "a whole lot" of difference.
I think a lot of called it that there was a ton of pent up demand from core gamers for new platforms. The question will be is how they carry this momentum forward in the hard months February-August. There is a good chance 1 separates from the other and goes on to win with the early momentum.
awilliams213
Member
Wow, I wonder if the shipping meltdowns will be more insane that the iPhone arrival stories.
This is gamers you're talking about it's bound to be much worse.
GetemMa
Member
But the WiiU launch wasn't bad though. Gamestop had a wait list for WiiU. But after the superfans were done it dried up.
Launch doesn't mean shit and that includes PS4 and Xbone. You should know this.
Superfans hype this stuff to no end and buy all of them up. It is still entirely possible that these new consoles will start struggling in the Sring and Summer of 2014. Just look at the number of really big games still coming to the current gen in Q4 and Q1/Q2 of 2014:
Titanfall, Destiny, COD, Batman, Gran Turismo 6, Assassins Creed 4, GTA V, EA sports games.
These are the games that the middle ground gamers buy consoles for, and they already own consoles that play all these games. They won't rush out and drop $400 and $500 to play Dead Rising 3 or Infamous Second Son or Killzone despite what fanboys think.
Nah, I actually think these new consoles have a lot to prove. Not buying the post E3 preorder hype one iota.
On the Wii U's launch day, a whole lot of people could walk into a whole lot of stores and just pick one up off a shelf.
I think it's ridiculous to think that that will be possible with the PS4 or Xbox One.
They're not going to do that, and it wouldn't help anyways. Bundling something to add value has never worked for consoles in trying to boost sales. Look at the Vita and its instant game collection bundle...something like 8 games bundled with the system.
Delusibeta
Banned
I thought it was the cheaper console that won, which usually also the less powerful console.
I would also be very hesitant in drawing any conclusions about the future success of the console based on pre-order figures. The WiiU did very well on the pre-orders, and look what happened to it.
DragonSworne
Banned
PS4 pre orders are 4500% percentage higher than Wii U pretty orders were?
Damn.
Damn.
GetemMa
Member
Sure, but not everywhere. Nintendo already admitted they screwed up their distribution and regardless the launch numbers were good.
WiiU sold over 3 million in its first 5 to 6 weeks. That is better than both 360 and PS3.
Then it tanked.
Granted the core audience for PS4/Xbone will be larger and the slow down could be a longer process, but it could easily still happen.
IMO the middle ground to casual gamer will need some convincing to move on to the next gen quickly considering the price tags and the games still being released and the initial so so graphical upgrade on offer.
So just like every other generation then excluding the Wii.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Cheaper price didn't save GameCube or Dreamcast when the content most of the market wanted was on PS2, despite their being above or below the specs of Sony's machine. Specs didn't save XBOX against PS2, either, and it was priced at the same level. Price obviously is a major consideration, but specs aren't for most people. Otherwise, we wouldn't still be in a generation where Wii still has outsold the X360 and PS3 or where DS destroyed PSP or where 3DS destroyed Vita. The one common thread throughout console domination is content and feature set, not price, not specs. The focus on price and specs is a PC-centric thing.
Both 360 and PS3 had extremely limited supplies. Wii U is already reaching record lows, its just going to get worse with PS3 being only 50 bucks more expensive.
George Claw M.D.
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If you're basing that off the 2500/minute figure, those are just peak numbers, which would've been a short window within the time between when the preorders opened up and now. I'd guess it happened shortly after preorders opened as the E3 conferences ended and people got notification emails from Amazon.
GetemMa
Member
PS3 wasn't supply constrained. Nobody wanted it for 499/599 american dollars with no games.
Yes it was in 2006. It sold out everywhere and went for big $$$ on ebay.
It wasnt until jan of 2007 that you could find them in stores. X360 shortages lasted longer and wii went for years it seem.
Killzone, huh? I'm a little surprised by that but good for Guerilla.
Square Triangle
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GetemMa
Member
Yeah, so 6 weeks after launch PS3 sales tanked, right after the fan boy feeding frenzy. Just like the WiiU only slightly better.
This is my point. All this post E3 pre-order frenzy for the next gen doesn't convince me of anything about the success of the next gen. Pachter's numbers of around 85-90 million for both the xbone and PS4 are wildly optimistic IMO, especially with that 499 xbone price tag.
JetBlackPanda
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Circut City??!? and workers not letting them take pictures. 2006 sucked hard.
people said this about the PS3, Wii, and 360 as well. there are always stories. i got curious and looked around my town. it was sold out everywhere, even the basics. i checked store locators and there weren't any anywhere i looked. t was in the next supply shipment that they started showing up.
hawkshockey11
Banned
Just preordered an xbone to accompany my ps4.
Labombadog
Member
All I can think of is Killing Floors voice actors:
Money money moneeyyyyy!
GG Sony and MS.
Money money moneeyyyyy!
GG Sony and MS.
Canis lupus
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Why do people keep posting this? The EGM interview with Tretton was conducted at the start of january 2007, the magazine came out later that month or february. At the time Tretton said that PS3s were hard to find.
Square Triangle
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Ace Harding
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That's only from those using CAG, but still 47% higher for PS4 is actually lower than I thought it would be. That means for every 3 preorders for PS4 they got 2 for XBone. A big gap for sure, but smaller than one might think if you only read GAF.
Its going to be closer than people think, especially over the long run.
Miles Quaritch
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I don't think you can compare it to the Vita. You still need to spend a considerable amount to both access those free games and on the storage needed to download them.
Bundling a years gold/plus would add value and also help to lock people into the ecosystem. With both now putting online gaming behind a paywall, bundling a years sub makes a lot of sense and gives some sense of value.
Lagspike_exe
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IGN reported 3:2 US split, although before MS dumped DRM.
Canis lupus
Member
It may be funny but its not the truth.
lovegames718
Banned
Youll be in a for a rude awakening. all the ppl that i know that gamed on both consoles or mainly on Xbox still plan on getting a Ps4 and not a Xbone. If i had to take a guess id think maybe 10% of those who preordered a Ps4 bcus of Drm switched back to Xbone and not many more. Xbone still has many negatives, mainly the bs and lies they spew and the shafting theyve been giving consumers since years back with RROD and now with the bs they tried to pull.
Miles Quaritch
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Nothing yet. I'm still waiting it out and sticking to my plan of going PC only for a couple of years.
Saying that though, I'm pretty tempted to buy a One at launch after watching the Dead Rising 3 demo. I'm a sucker for zed games and it's looking pretty good.