Interfectum
Member
No it couldn't. These systems are going to get flooded with games throughout 2014 to keep the sales up. It's not going to be anything like Wii U.
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Amazon Breaks Video Game Pre-Order Records By PS4/XBO, Up 4000% YoY, 2x Black Friday
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No it couldn't. These systems are going to get flooded with games throughout 2014 to keep the sales up. It's not going to be anything like Wii U.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Holy shit point me to this thread, I need a good laugh.
I think its just wishful thinking on the part of some Nintendo fans.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Find any month's NPD thread. That's all you need for tons of entertainment.
I wonder if the market has shifted to there being 2 "main" consoles and a complementary console. Not necessarily in truth, but in the minds of many console purchasers. At least this seems to be the case with early adopters.
Wasn't that mostly due to scalpers? It is possible that the PS4 and One see a sales slow down, but it is not the most likely outcome. All of the major titles will be released for these consoles and they will be the exclusive locations of titles like Halo, Uncharted, GOW, GoW, and so on for many years to come. The marketing for both consoles will generate buzz and the price(s) are viable enough for market penetration.
I personally beleive the PS4's price is going to allow for much greater market penetration.
nah wii u had the massive preorder craze thing going as well. it shut down immediately in January, before the "no games" set in.
The Dutch Slayer
Member
I think that amazon not selling the Wii U directly really really hurt them in the long turn.
People like buying things from amazon and that was not possible at first and now only 3rd party sellers.
People like buying things from amazon and that was not possible at first and now only 3rd party sellers.
Interfectum
Member
It is. Some are so delusional that they'd say that the console industry is dead rather than accept that Nintendo massively fucked up with the Wii U. Their wake up call is coming through.
polyh3dron
Banned
Yeah because people like paying more money for a weaker console.
Yup, cos that's the only reason why they'd do such a thing.
Interfectum
Member
You're talking about Titanfall, aren't you?
I don't think that many people know; I bet many may even think the One is more powerful. Infinite power of the cloud and the various outlets also not realising the power differences.
Last I checked, Halo won't be appearing on any other console save for Microsoft's. Not that I'm ever a fan of the series but yeah, some people cannot live without that game believe it or not. This also applies to other exclusives.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Most people base their purchases on the games for a gaming console. Every console gen is historically dominated by the weaker specced console, anyway, so that shouldn't surprise anyone paying attention.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I wonder how many got cancelled when people found out Apple set a controller standard for iOS....
Edit : so many of us not getting our next gen fix this year
0?
MightyHedgehog
Member
Eh, launches aren't something consoles usually have a problem with, sales-wise. It's everything post-launch that can kill systems, publishers, and developers.
Not just Nintendo fans. The Apple Utopia crowd have been pushing the idea that no one wants consoles anymore now they have iPads. They have taken the drop off in software sales as a sign consumers have moved on from consoles, instead of recognizing that this is the longest console generation in history and it was only natural for interest to dwindle after five or six years of PS3 and 360 games.
As soon as new consoles were revealed that were a significant leap forward technically, the interest has returned.
Roland Deschain
Member
Wii U will be steamrolled at the end of the year.
Succinct Verbosity
Member
To me this shows one of the real reasons that video game sales have been shrinking; people have been clamouring for new consoles.
MikeJAMoran
Member
Why would that make someone switch? PS4 had no DRM either.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I think the Wii U has some wiggle room. It will have some more enticing software available and Nintendo should be a good position to drop the price or add value through extensive bundling.
I wouldn't count Nintendo out just yet.
When was the last time the weaker console was also significantly more expensive?
Why should he shut up? It's a valid concern. We like to act like it's not true but price is the biggest factor in determining how well a console sells especially in America. $399 automatically looks better to a consumer than $499.
Square Triangle
Member
Since Amazon does not charge until shipped, these preorder numbers don't mean a whole lot.
Miles Quaritch
Member
MS would be foolish not to add value to make the One more enticing. If they do, will be interesting to see how Sony counter.
A years gold and the full version of KIL for free would make up for the price difference in my opinion. Sony could do the same, offer a years Plus which will come with a free game in Drive Club PS+ edition.
SuperSonic1305
Member
HAVE YOU SEEN TITANFALL?!
shinobi602
Member
But the media told me console gaming is dead...?
Woody Invincible
Banned
There's always money in the console stand.
Is this a thing on Amazon - people who preorder just to preorder without any intention of completing the purchase?
razgriz417
Member
Really wish they had numbers to show, oh well, did my part lol
Yes. No reason not to. I've got both preordered so I can decided later which one I want at launch
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
This is what's important. Not which console sold more. It's practically in everyone's best interest that they both sell as much as possible, especially now.
But that's not really the same thing. You do intend to make a purchase.
The ease of cancelling a preorder on Amazon isn't reason by itself to completely brush aside the significance of these numbers.
Square Triangle
Member
If they are undecided, its like three clicks away from throwing their name down on a unit. At any moment before launch, they can cancel. This is why you see a lot of Special Editions come back in stock.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
A coworker of mine who casually games told me he saw a story on the news earlier this morning regarding the Xbox One, and the whole situation of them backing off on their policies. It was also mentioned that the damage may have already been done, so I don't know how they're delivering these stories. If it's not quite in a positive light that could sway consumer opinion.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Probably never. And that's going to be the test for MS' inclusion of Kinect which has previously maintained, even raised, the average selling price of their consoles this generation. Guess they're banking on that and the television programming interface and exclusive content partnerships to justify the difference. There is little chance for MS to lose the majority of their dominance right away, because XBOX IPs have generally dominated over Sony ones this entire gen in NA with Gold subs and higher selling prices all in the mix. Still, gotta wonder what that price difference does to the rest of the audience, post-launch period, who might not be into XBOX as much. Differences in specs between same-generation platforms never seem to be the selling point no matter what in console land.
Touchy subject?
Interfectum
Member
You act like it's some huge percentage of people who pre-order vs. cancelling. Care to provide any data?
I think it's safe to assume most who pre-order a product intend to buy it regardless of if they pay now or later.
2500/minute at peak?
You would assume that means, even if it was only one minute at that level, there were hundreds of thousands of preorders through the week. Doesn't seem feasible :x
Also makes me wonder how many PSN and XBL cards Amazon sells each year (given the 2013 bestseller list).
You would assume that means, even if it was only one minute at that level, there were hundreds of thousands of preorders through the week. Doesn't seem feasible :x
Also makes me wonder how many PSN and XBL cards Amazon sells each year (given the 2013 bestseller list).
JetBlackPanda
Member
Everything.
actually no Xbox180 won best FTP fighter and best use of a TV show with a game.
Pretty much
I have a preorder on there. But the fact I put no money down like at other stores shows it means little.
nelsonroyale
Member
That is really an irrelevant observation, since in almost every case the more powerful console has also been the more expensive. That isn't the case now. History doesn't really repeat itself anyway, that is a falacy. People's reactions to certain types of events do show patterns though of course.
Krillin really will walk alone.
This gamepad has a poison on it's breaaaaaath
This gaming culture of both wicked lies and deaaaaaath
It makes my sales bleed everytime I turn around
How will they all feel when I go into the ground?
And I say...
I walked for miles towards this grave of dangeeeeer
I've swallowed down 124 years of angeeeeer
The weight of the gaming world is falling on my shouldeeeeers
A place where no one follows me, I walk alooooooooooone
Yeah!
I walk aloooooooone!!
This gamepad has a poison on it's breaaaaaath
This gaming culture of both wicked lies and deaaaaaath
It makes my sales bleed everytime I turn around
How will they all feel when I go into the ground?
And I say...
I walked for miles towards this grave of dangeeeeer
I've swallowed down 124 years of angeeeeer
The weight of the gaming world is falling on my shouldeeeeers
A place where no one follows me, I walk alooooooooooone
Yeah!
I walk aloooooooone!!