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AMD Radeon 300 series (possible) specs
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What Kool-Aid? The whole ordeal where Nvidia released their mid-range Maxwell chip for $550-600 and tried marketing it on reduced power consumption while it barely outperformed my over-a-year-old overclocked 780 (or a 290X for that matter, particularly at higher resolutions)?
The only Kool-Aid here is Nvidia selling a mid-range GM204 for high-end prices while GM200, a real high-end successor to GK110, was already in production. Simultaneously, as to the return of my 970s, there's the VRAM issue Nvidia swept under a rug. I've been waiting for a real performance increase for quite some time, the 900 series failed miserably at it. What Kool-Aid is there in being excited about 2015 actually seeing some GPU performance progress? The leaks are rather absolute. We know GM200 is out there, we know it'll waste GM204. Additionally, we know Fiji is similarly powerful.
Yep. GPUs are poised to be exciting as hell this year. I hope the successor to the 290 (non X) is the upgrade I hope it'll be.
Why set a time table? What is demanding an upgrade from your GTX670? With Windows 10 and DirectX12 around the corner, you're better off waiting as long possible. Some GPUs are claimed to support DX12 now but no doubt, there will be more releases of video cards to correspond with DX12 as the Direct X 12 cards.
As far as the 970 and 980, it is surely a stop gap for the year for Nvidia to profit off of, especially when they purposely limited the 970.
Higher memory bandwidth is only going to help in memory bandwidth limited scenarios. HBM is hopefully a great improvement and useful going forwards as GPUs become faster and hit the limits of GDDR5, but most of the time you're shader limited.
The first design featuring HBM is not going to be massively faster overall than a GPU of similar ability paired with a GDDR5 interface.
We'll need this interface though, so good on AMD for pushing things forward.
I'm not so sure about that. Rumors so far say that the 390X will be around 550mm² and GM200 600mm² from the leaked die shot. Obviously you can't base performance on just die sizes, but there might be a few more reasons. A couple of weeks ago I read some speculation about Nvidia cutting down on double precision units for GM200, possibly turning it a bigger GM104. Less DP saves up space to cram in more "regular" shaders. It also falls in line with them recently introducing a respun GK110 for their Teslas (GK210). Why else would they redo an old chip for HPC cards when a new chip is basically around the corner? WCCFTech and 3DCenter also wrote about this rumor here. It might seem like a strange move from Nvidia, but it kinda makes sense to me.
TL;DR: GM200 is pretty much confirmed to be bigger and if they're really cutting down on DP, my bet is that it will be faster.
I guess we'll know soon enough how things turn out.
SneakyStephan
Banned
The promise of the first significant jump in gpu performance in many many years (instead of always just 20-25 percent boosts) is exciting.
Don't let us down AMD
Don't let us down AMD
For me just having prettier games during the summer, when I'll probably have more time to game.
DouglasteR
Member
Really hoping to AMD to drop the atom bomb.
This will be interesting. If the card will be a ultra performer (monster card + dx12) i cant wait to see Nvidia´s response.
This will be interesting. If the card will be a ultra performer (monster card + dx12) i cant wait to see Nvidia´s response.
Irobot82
Member
This is what I expected. I don't think we'll see a full new architect lineup until the 400 series when they drop to 16nm.
Still I've heard rumors the nonexistent 285X will make an appearance as the 370X and that the 360X is a new chip at well. You'd think they'd want their entire 300 lineup to support FreeSync.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
Dunno, that looks exactly like the 295x2 shroud except the fan is missing for some reason.
Hip Hop
Member
Any dates as to when we can expect these cards?
I've been waiting on my integrated since I sold my GPU to upgrade, but I really thought we would see something before GTA V was out.
Was waiting to see what AMD had, or maybe go with Nvidia if a price shakeup happened.
Seems like I just may have to grab whatever is out right now.
I've been waiting on my integrated since I sold my GPU to upgrade, but I really thought we would see something before GTA V was out.
Was waiting to see what AMD had, or maybe go with Nvidia if a price shakeup happened.
Seems like I just may have to grab whatever is out right now.
I think a few places have been suggesting it would release around Computex in June.
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/43945/amd-unveil-next-gen-radeon-r9-390x-computex-june/index.html
SneakyStephan
Banned
I wish amd announced their 390x before nvidia announced their stupid titan card...
Because from the 390 specs it'll be similar in die space and performance to the titan x and absolutely crush it in memory bandwidth. Now watch amd price it at something stupid like 750 euros against the titan x and watch people justify that price by comparing it to that pos card branding.
Because from the 390 specs it'll be similar in die space and performance to the titan x and absolutely crush it in memory bandwidth. Now watch amd price it at something stupid like 750 euros against the titan x and watch people justify that price by comparing it to that pos card branding.
Dictator93
Member
Gosh, I likewise hope AMD doesnt sit on their laurels here. Really.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Considering replacing my 7850 because of fan noise. After looking at what's out right now, it's just sad. After so many years, there still isn't a decent replacement for it that provides the same performance at low wattage as that. The 265 is just a tweaked version with higher power demands.
I'm crossing my fingers and hoping the 3xx cards will bring something decent for the mid-range cards. A more power efficient r7 265 would be enough for me.
I'm crossing my fingers and hoping the 3xx cards will bring something decent for the mid-range cards. A more power efficient r7 265 would be enough for me.
Hip Hop
Member
wow, that's a bit far off. Crazy if they are holding out that long.
Dictator93
Member
it is more time for NV to continue taking market share. AMD needs to act fast. Better would have been an announcement of sort during the 970 fiasco...
Cow Mengde
Banned
Probably because they couldn't announce anything. Maybe the chip's not 100% finished or finalized.
Looks like pcper got one case away from seeing the next R9.
http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/GDC-15-Upcoming-Flagship-AMD-Radeon-R9-GPU-Powering-VR-Demo
At least we know it exists in working form.
http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/GDC-15-Upcoming-Flagship-AMD-Radeon-R9-GPU-Powering-VR-Demo
At least we know it exists in working form.
jfoul
Member
Yuck. I hope AMD launches before June. I think the R9 300 series is almost ready to go, but they're waiting to clear stock in the retail channel. Nvidia can just stick with the GTX960/970/980/Titan X until June, and release a cut down Titan at the R9 300 release.
"Just to be clear, I saw a demonstration of Showdown running on the Oculus Rift Crescent Bay, being powered by an unannounced Radeon R9 flagship ultra-enthusiast product. Those words, in their exactness, were told to me officially, as in on the record, by AMD.
Showdown is an immersive experience where a giant robot is wreaking havoc on a city, causing flying debris (at you, around you), a flying car with a person inside, and explosions in 360 degrees, among many pieces of action. I saw Showdown last at CES in early January, and then it wasn't running on this AMD hardware (so presumably Nvidia's). I obviously cannot recall the nuances of that demo earlier this year for precise comparison, but I can say that the performance of this demonstration was remarkably responsive. I tried everything I could to throw off head tracking and introduce latency and I could not, which is to say I didn't experience any latency. The environment is incredibly rich in texture, lighting and immersion. On the other hand, at this point the demonstration is relatively short."
- KitGuru - AMD to introduce its Radeon R9 300-series lineup at Computex
- KitGuru - AMD demonstrates unannounced flagship Radeon R9 at GDC
- Tom's Hardware - AMD's Next Radeon Flagship Spotted Powering Oculus Rift
"Just to be clear, I saw a demonstration of Showdown running on the Oculus Rift Crescent Bay, being powered by an unannounced Radeon R9 flagship ultra-enthusiast product. Those words, in their exactness, were told to me officially, as in on the record, by AMD.
Showdown is an immersive experience where a giant robot is wreaking havoc on a city, causing flying debris (at you, around you), a flying car with a person inside, and explosions in 360 degrees, among many pieces of action. I saw Showdown last at CES in early January, and then it wasn't running on this AMD hardware (so presumably Nvidia's). I obviously cannot recall the nuances of that demo earlier this year for precise comparison, but I can say that the performance of this demonstration was remarkably responsive. I tried everything I could to throw off head tracking and introduce latency and I could not, which is to say I didn't experience any latency. The environment is incredibly rich in texture, lighting and immersion. On the other hand, at this point the demonstration is relatively short."
SneakyStephan
Banned
'ultra enthusiast'
that is PR speak for only one thing : "expensive"
that is PR speak for only one thing : "expensive"
That is a terrible release cycle for AMD. So GTX 970 and 980 are on the market in September and gets to dominate for 9 whole freaking months unchallenged (3 months short of a year), then AMD will release their 390 in June, with a 20-30% increase in performance. 3 months later, the GTX 1080 will release and be 20-30% higher than the 390.
So so dumb. This is why AMD's market share sucks. You'd think they get their shit together.
So so dumb. This is why AMD's market share sucks. You'd think they get their shit together.
SneakyStephan
Banned
20-30 percent? I thought all the leaks and rumors put it at 50 percent faster
GTX960 has only very marginally higher power demand than the 7850 and while not a quantum leap in performance, is still a fair step up if your main concern is very low power requirements.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-gtx-960-gaming-oc-review,7.html
Cow Mengde
Banned
It's also 200 bucks.
Just wow. I have been using AMD cards since they were ATI cards, and I can tell you that some of the drivers they can come up with were like installing a brand new card in my PC. Just saying. ^_^
SolidSnakeUS
Member
I know this may sound crazy, but do you think AMD would ever openly support G-sync as well? Or is that basically impossible?
Sorry, just thinking of ways they could make themselves more viable.
Sorry, just thinking of ways they could make themselves more viable.
ScepticMatt
Member
G-Sync is proprietary, so yes, it's impossible to 'openly' support it.
But only Nvidia is stopping Nvidia from supporting VESA AdaptiveSync, the open standard for variable refresh rates.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
The open standard adaptive sync is inevitably going to be used by AMD and Nvidia. Nvidia isn't going to try to force an extra piece of specialized hardware when they can just use their branding as a certification instead.
Viable should be used with Gsync + the proprietary module, which will soon go away.
ashecitism
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cleveridea
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Excite
Shark Attack
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I'll never buy a AMD card but if this forces out the cut down titan (Ala 780) sooner Im all for it. Also there is a typo in that pic, fake as hell
Insane Metal
Member
Why the weird spacing in that image? That's fake
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I get the feeling that this thing is gonna be eating some major wattage. Exciting times though. I'm getting tired of rebrands and incremental upgrades. Remember when the 5850/5870 came out and kicked all kinds of ass?
The 390X is expected to be liquid cooled.
Going with Fake as noted by videocardz... There is a typo. Also iirc that is not the style they use were presenting info.