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[mokalovesoulmate]

I'm looking to upgrade my old i5 2500k with a Ryzen 5 1600 and a new mobo and RAM.

My current specs are:

i5 2500k OC to 4GHZ
Biostar T277B Z77 Motherboard
16GB DDR3 1600mhz RAM
AMD Gigabyte RX 480 w/ 8GB GDDR5

The only thing I would keep out of the above system is the Rx480, which is an alright performer and is suited well enough for my needs. But I am thinking about ditching the Motherboard, CPU and RAM with a Ryzen 5 1600, whatever socket of mobo the CPU uses and 16+GB of DDR4. Does anyone think the upgrade would be worth it?

I just upgraded to Ryzen 1600 from i5 2400. My old i5 feels old and not responsive as it has to be...

The upgrade is worth it. Trust me.

 

[RenegadeXV8]

Rise of the Tomb Raider received a Ryzen patch: http://forums.eu.square-enix.com/showthread.php?t=254796&

- Fix certain DX12 crashes reported by users on the forums.
- Improve DX12 performance across a variety of hardware, in CPU bound situations. Especially performance on AMD Ryzen CPUs can be significantly improved.

 

[·feist·]

Asus X399 Zenith Extreme Motherboard

Seems this may be a showcase motherboard for AMD and Threadripper...

ASRock X399 Taichi & ASRock Fatal1ty X399 Professional Gaming:

GGF Events —— Computex 2017 - X299!! and X399!!, ASRock brings out the big guns

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=238520388&postcount=2948

ComputerBase gallery: https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78459/1/

ASUS ROG STRIX GL702ZC
https://videocardz.com/70007/asus-rog-gl702zc-is-worlds-first-ryzen-powered-laptop
https://www.lowyat.net/2017/132732/computex-2017-asus-rog-gl702zc-worlds-first-ryzen-notebook/

Well, that took a while, a gaming laptop completely powered by AMD hardware? It’s right here. ROG STRIX GL702ZC ships with 8-core Ryzen 7 1700 and Radeon RX 580. Yes, it also the world’s first laptop with Radeon RX 580 graphics card (although this variant has only 4GB VRAM).

This laptop has 17-inch 1080p screen with FreeSync 2 support (yes another first). It can host up to 32 GB of DDR4 memory, 1TB SSHD and either an M.2 SSD or standard SATA SSD.

There is no launch date yet, but Lowyat predicts it should be ready end of July or early August. Laptop is quite bulky, weighs around 3kg, but does it really matter?

http://www.hardwarezone.com.my/tech...ands-asus-amd-ryzen-based-rog-gaming-notebook

Here at the ASUS booth in COMPUTEX 2017, we managed to get a quick hands-on of what could possibly be the company’s (and probably the world’s first) AMD Ryzen-powered gaming notebook.

Its name is the ASUS ROG GL702ZC, and much like ASUS’ other ROG gaming notebooks, the system looks and feels relatively bulky. Inside the system, however, is a Ryzen 7 1700 CPU, 12GB of DDR4 RAM with its frequency set at 2,400MHz (expandable up to 32GB). The amount of RAM inside the machine is, admittedly, a bit odd, but then again, that’s not really the highlight here.

Driving its output through to its 17.3-inch Full HD (1,920 x 1,080) FreeSync-enabled display is a Radeon RX 580 discrete GPU, rated at 4GB of GDDR5 graphics memory. We did ask one of the floor staff members if the RX 580 GPU could be upgraded to the 8GB variant if a consumer wanted to, and naturally, he said yes.

Now, we should point that ASUS had specified that the GL702ZC that we saw here was still in its prototype phase, so it’s very unlikely that we will be seeing any of this soon. That being said, it’s actually a nice breath of fresh to see that ASUS is expanding its notebook CPU and GPU options out to AMD once more.

 

[Datschge]

The Stilt, whom I mentioned before, has insightful input regarding the AGESA 1.0.0.6 memory improvements, what kind of memory configuration currently brings the best possible performance:

3600MHz will probably be the highest MEMCLK doable for 24/7 use.
We're already seeing signaling limitations, even below that.

The performance improvements from going above 3200MHz are rather diminishing, as the performance gain from the higher fabric bandwidth / lower latency isn't infinite.
At 3200MHz MEMCLK it is better to reduce the latency as much as possible, rather than shoot for the higher clocks. If you could do both at the same time, obviously that would be the best case.

The memory controller can now do >= 3200MHz with the highest possible memory configuration (2DPC dual rank, 8Gb per IC), which is IMO more important and impressive that the highest supported MEMCLK on paper.

(...)

Zeppelin cannot clock high enough for the bandwidth / latency available at 3200MHz MEMCLK (w/ decent latencies) to become a problem.
If AMD was to release a refresh of Zeppelin on a better process, offering significantly higher Fmax (e.g. 4.5GHz), then that would be another story.

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...and-discussion.2499879/page-250#post-38913023

 

[ShadowKingpin]

Is there any update on the ASUS Strix boards coming for Ryzen?

 

[Mr Swine]

The Stilt, whom I mentioned before, has insightful input regarding the AGESA 1.0.0.6 memory improvements, what kind of memory configuration currently brings the best possible performance:


https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...and-discussion.2499879/page-250#post-38913023

Still, running at 3200mhz is good enough for me when 1.0.0.6 comes out. Running at 2933mhz ATM and it makes games run smoother than 2133mhz

 

[Tommy DJ]

Asus X399 Zenith Extreme Motherboard

Seems this may be a showcase motherboard for AMD and Threadripper...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=238520388&postcount=2948

ComputerBase gallery: https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78459/1/

For reference, this is an AM4 heatsink on a Threadripper (TR4) IHS:

The package is so freaking big that it needs torx screws to ensure that its perfectly secure.

 

[DouglasteR]

Oh AMD !

Save us from Intel !

 

[Durante]

I like that most of these mainboards seem to come with 3 M.2 slots. I don't plan to ever buy a SATA device again if I can help it, M.2 modules are so much more convenient.

Now to see if the lower-end / sane price models still include it.

 

[Papacheeks]

Just had my first issue with high voltage on my Ryzen 1600x.

I had it running at 4.0ghz stable or so I thought with my Memory set to 2933mhz for at least a whole month. Been playing games running Cinebench tests. Then I started playing Player Unknown battlegrounds and the game once in a while would crash. I restart keep playing. Then last night it locked my pc. Had to do a full hard reboot, came back up and ran Prime95 along with OCCT and it crashed again.

Went back looked at Voltage and it was high. I had manually set it when I built the rig to 1.37500 and from my Understanding anything between 1.35-1.38 is fine for ryzen.

But even at 1.375 it was not stable under high cpu load like Prime95 or OCCT.

SO dropped clock down to 3.9 which equals with the FSB to 3.892.... with cpu voltage set to 1.35 and it seems to be stable.

So My question is I bought the 1600x to have it at 4.00ghz, is that only possibly at high voltage like 1.38? Which is not where I would like it for heat but I do have it water cooled.

Going to do some more testing this weekend. But any suggestions or did I just possibly get a bad stepping? FYI I bought the 1600x right at launch like within a week of them going on sale.

 

[TC McQueen]

Just had my first issue with high voltage on my Ryzen 1600x.

I had it running at 4.0ghz stable or so I thought with my Memory set to 2933mhz for at least a whole month. Been playing games running Cinebench tests. Then I started playing Player Unknown battlegrounds and the game once in a while would crash. I restart keep playing. Then last night it locked my pc. Had to do a full hard reboot, came back up and ran Prime95 along with OCCT and it crashed again.

Went back looked at Voltage and it was high. I had manually set it when I built the rig to 1.37500 and from my Understanding anything between 1.35-1.38 is fine for ryzen.

But even at 1.375 it was not stable under high cpu load like Prime95 or OCCT.

SO dropped clock down to 3.9 which equals with the FSB to 3.892.... with cpu voltage set to 1.35 and it seems to be stable.

So My question is I bought the 1600x to have it at 4.00ghz, is that only possibly at high voltage like 1.38? Which is not where I would like it for heat but I do have it water cooled.

Going to do some more testing this weekend. But any suggestions or did I just possibly get a bad stepping? FYI I bought the 1600x right at launch like within a week of them going on sale.

It could be a RAM issue. I can't even try to get my 1600X above 3.9GHz because of RAM problems (the sticks I've got aren't on the QVL list, but work on the base JEDEC 2133 settings at that speed and below).

 

[Papacheeks]

It could be a RAM issue. I can't even try to get my 1600X above 3.9GHz because of RAM problems (the sticks I've got aren't on the QVL list, but work on the base JEDEC 2133 settings at that speed and below).

Well I'll do some more testing. I think there's a big Bios update coming soon for Memory.

But currently last night I ran PRIME95 for over an hour and a half which seemed pretty stable.

So I'll boot up occt tonight and run it for a little while and see what happens.

Thanks for the input.

Still love this machine though, it freaking smokes. I love being able to have battlegrounds on and while playing looking up things like using Discord for chat, checking my cpu heat threshhold and having no lag or hiccup.

Those extra cores doing work.

 

[TharpDaddy]

I'm running a i5-3570k which is bottle necking my 1070 a bit, so I'm looking to do a new build next month. I was looking at the 7700k at first, but now i'm thinking of going with the 1700 instead since I like to run multiple apps while playing games. Does the 1700 with an oc sound like the way to go for that? From what i've read the 1700x is not worth the extra $40 when I can just overclock the 1700. I was looking at maybe a setup like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/mojoo/saved/bjQHxr

 

[Papacheeks]

I'm running a i5-3570k which is bottle necking my 1070 a bit, so I'm looking to do a new build next month. I was looking at the 7700k at first, but now i'm thinking of going with the 1700 instead since I like to run multiple apps while playing games. Does the 1700 with an oc sound like the way to go for that? From what i've read the 1700x is not worth the extra $40 when I can just overclock the 1700. I was looking at maybe a setup like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/mojoo/saved/bjQHxr

The 1700 only has a TDP of 65w unlike the 1700x which is 95w.

So your at the mercy of hoping to get a good stepping to push it, and you have to up volt a decent way to get close to 3.9 because of heat with all those cores.

It's up to you, if your primary is gaming I say pay a little extra and get a 1700x so you can hit the higher clock that you want.

If your ok with an oc of 3.8-3.9 with cpu voltage at 1.375-1.38 then the 1700 will be fine. Granted also I recommend a good board a x370 and recommend DDR4 3000 or DDR4 3200 to help get the most out of that cpu.

The extra cores seem to react well with the higher clocked memory. And even better if you can get that speed with tighter timings.

 

[Ragnorok64]

Glad to finally see full featured AM4 ITX boards. I wonder when they'll hit the market and what the pricing will be. I wish they had more USB ports though.

 

[TharpDaddy]

The 1700 only has a TDP of 65w unlike the 1700x which is 95w.

So your at the mercy of hoping to get a good stepping to push it, and you have to up volt a decent way to get close to 3.9 because of heat with all those cores.

It's up to you, if your primary is gaming I say pay a little extra and get a 1700x so you can hit the higher clock that you want.

If your ok with an oc of 3.8-3.9 with cpu voltage at 1.375-1.38 then the 1700 will be fine. Granted also I recommend a good board a x370 and recommend DDR4 3000 or DDR4 3200 to help get the most out of that cpu.

The extra cores seem to react well with the higher clocked memory. And even better if you can get that speed with tighter timings.

Alright, i'll look into the 1700x then. So the motherboard (MSI X370 PRO CARBON) and ram (Ripjaws V DDR4-3200) are both fine? Any recommendations for a good cooler for the 1700X?

 

[Papacheeks]

Alright, i'll look into the 1700x then. So the motherboard (MSI X370 PRO CARBON) and ram (Ripjaws V DDR4-3200) are both fine? Any recommendations for a good cooler for the 1700X?

After going water cooled I recccomend a good 240mm AIO, but if you want to cool on the cheap and don't care about what the inside looks like or side panel clearance then the Hyper Evo 212

Or

Be Quite cooler will work fine.

 

[Arex]

Glad to finally see full featured AM4 ITX boards. I wonder when they'll hit the market and what the pricing will be. I wish they had more USB ports though.

Yeah, I looked at the x299 boards and they have bazillion usb ports lol. They should make some versions which replace the unused video ports with usb ports lol. No Ryzen APU is out yet anyway.

 

[Nokterian]

The Stilt, whom I mentioned before, has insightful input regarding the AGESA 1.0.0.6 memory improvements, what kind of memory configuration currently brings the best possible performance:


https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...and-discussion.2499879/page-250#post-38913023

Good thing my memory is 3200mhz now i wait on the official release then from Asus.

 

[Drakhoran]

Rise of the Tomb Raider received a Ryzen patch: http://forums.eu.square-enix.com/showthread.php?t=254796&

And it appears to be quite a patch. According to this there's up to 50% framerate improvement. That's more than I would have expected.

 

[cyen]

And it appears to be quite a patch. According to this there's up to 50% framerate improvement. That's more than I would have expected.

That is a major improvement! Thanks

 

[IcyRhythms]

That is a major improvement! Thanks

I want to see it in the more demanding areas. There is one in particular that always gets benchmarked and I forget the name. Something Valley?

Also, 16 core THREADRIPPER won't be any less than $850, I'd assume?

 

[tuxfool]

I want to see it in the more demanding areas. There is one in particular that always gets benchmarked and I forget the name. Something Valley?

Also, 16 core THREADRIPPER won't be any less than $850, I'd assume?

Geothermal valley is in the benchmark...

It is right there in the screenshots

 

[Chuckl3s]

What would be the best Ryzen sweet spot for a Web Developer/BI Developer? I'm looking at the 1600 for my next build.

 

[Delusibeta]

What would be the best Ryzen sweet spot for a Web Developer/BI Developer? I'm looking at the 1600 for my next build.

On the one hand, compiling code would be the one use case that seems to be universally benefitting from more cores and threads. On the other hand, 6 cores & 12 threads is definitely plenty. TBH, I'd say that the 1600 would probably be sufficient for your needs.

 

[PFD]

And it appears to be quite a patch. According to this there's up to 50% framerate improvement. That's more than I would have expected.

Dat FineWine technology

 

[dr_rus]

I want to see it in the more demanding areas. There is one in particular that always gets benchmarked and I forget the name. Something Valley?

Also, 16 core THREADRIPPER won't be any less than $850, I'd assume?

The biggest gain is in Peak sequence actually:

More: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Rise-Tomb-Raider-Gets-Ryzen-Performance-Update

Also: https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews...b_raider_update_-_has_amd_performance_ryzen/1

 

[·feist·]

AMD's Computex 2017 live stream is up:

https://www.twitch.tv/amd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8R7frtLDBk
https://www.amd.com/en/events/computex-2017

Join the webcast of the AMD COMPUTEX TAIPEI 2017 Press Conference on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 10 p.m. EDT.

The one-hour event will feature:

• Appearances by AMD technology partners,
  
  
• Updates on current and upcoming AMD products by AMD President and CEO Dr. Lisa Su and Senior Vice President and General Manager, Computing and Graphics Business Group, Jim Anderson,
  
  
• And never-before-seen AMD hardware demonstrations

 

[Datschge]

The only notable news from the livestream seems to be Epyc launching on June 20th. No dates for Threadripper and Ryzen Mobile yet.

 

[Caayn]

AMD: Everyone gets 64 PCIe lanes.
Intel: You get 44, you get 28 and you? you get 16 on your enthusiast platform and you'll like it.

 

[nubbe]

AMD: Everyone gets 64 PCIe lanes.
Intel: You get 44, you get 28 and you? you get 16 on your enthusiast platform and you'll like it.

yup, Intel made their platform irrelevant

 

[gigantor21]

AMD: Everyone gets 64 PCIe lanes.
Intel: You get 44, you get 28 and you? you get 16 on your enthusiast platform and you'll like it.

AMD with a competitive product is such a blessing.

 

[Datschge]

Should be noted that currently each die (so 2x CCX) has 32 PCIe lanes, and AM4 chipsets take 4 of them. X399 was confirmed to use the same chipset as X370, so of Threadripper's 64 lanes "only" 60 are actually available.

 

[IcyRhythms]

I don't like that AMD shows stuff like DOTA when they do the VS Intel demos. Like, show something a little more demanding while streaming. GTA V, The Division, or Witcher. I'm actually curious how those games run on a 1700x and 1800x while streaming.

EDIT:

What's the best mobo for the 1700x and 1800x under $200, or is the ASRock Fatal1ty X370 worth the extra $50?

 

[Nostremitus]

I don't like that AMD shows stuff like DOTA when they do the VS Intel demos. Like, show something a little more demanding while streaming. GTA V, The Division, or Witcher. I'm actually curious how those games run on a 1700x and 1800x while streaming.

EDIT:

What's the best mobo for the 1700x and 1800x under $200, or is the ASRock Fatal1ty X370 worth the extra $50?

I like my MSI X370 GAMING PRO Carbon.

Overclocking is easy(4.0 1700X, got unapproved RAM up to 2666 on it. I can't get the same RAM to post higher than stock on my wife's ASUS Prime X370) It also happens to be the board AMD used to give this class.

https://youtu.be/vZgpHTaQ10k

 

[Seronei]

I don't like that AMD shows stuff like DOTA when they do the VS Intel demos. Like, show something a little more demanding while streaming. GTA V, The Division, or Witcher. I'm actually curious how those games run on a 1700x and 1800x while streaming.

EDIT:

What's the best mobo for the 1700x and 1800x under $200, or is the ASRock Fatal1ty X370 worth the extra $50?

AsRock Taichi has pretty much the same features as the Fatal1ty and costs $200 in USA, seems to be the cheapest board with all the high end features (although only in the US).

 

[Papacheeks]

I like my MSI X370 GAMING PRO Carbon.

Overclocking is easy(4.0 1700X, got unapproved RAM up to 2666 on it. I can't get the same RAM to post higher than stock on my wife's ASUS Prime X370) It also happens to be the board AMD used to give this class.

https://youtu.be/vZgpHTaQ10k

Are you auto volting? or are you changing the core voltage, and memory voltage?

That's what I found is the sweet spot through trial and error.

 

[Nostremitus]

Are you auto volting? or are you changing the core voltage, and memory voltage?

That's what I found is the sweet spot through trial and error.

Everything manually, but MSI included preset RAM configurations that are not XMP profiles as they only show up with XMP off. The 2666 worked on it, but I manually adjusted the timings and voltage, got them a little tighter. My RAM is Hynix, so it's not able to overclock well on Ryzen. Hopefully that gets worked at as the platform matures.

I'm reading that people with Samsung B die are able to run 3200+ on it with little issue.

 

[·feist·]

ASRock May/June AGESA 1006 Update - Improved RAM Clocks & Compatibility


01.06.17 - New BIOS for ASRock Series AM4 Motherboards (Download page)
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php
http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5201&PN=1&title=new-agesa-1006

25.05.17
X370 Professional Gaming - TestBIOS L2.36
X370 Taichi - TestBIOS L2.36
23.05.17
X370 Taichi - TestBIOS L2.34
1. AGESA Microcode 1.0.0.6

ASRock X370 Taichi Beta L2.36 (AGESA 1.0.0.6) - http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/jzam4/X370TC236.exe

ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming (AGESA 1.0.0.6) - http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/jzam4/X370PG236.exe

http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5201&PID=30177&title=new-agesa-1006#30177

J Z - ASRock_Partner (ASRock Germany):

Hi,

X370 Pro Gaming (AGESA 1006) See -> http://goo.gl/2I1I1i

http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5201&PID=30266&title=new-agesa-1006#30266

J Z - ASRock_Partner (ASRock Germany):

X370 Killer SLI
L2.46 is equipped with AGESA 1006 (in test) [Not yet available in public beta form]
P2.40 has AGESA 1004a

Gigabyte May AGESA 1005 Update & 1006 (Update 1) - Improved RAM Clocks & Compatibility
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=236840913&postcount=2818
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=238414785&postcount=2935


Gigabyte May/June AGESA 1006 Update - Improved RAM Clocks & Compatibility


http://forum.gigabyte.us/post/6402/thread

GIGABYTE - Matt:

All boards now updated to AGESA 1006!

http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/886/am4-beta-bios-thread

GIGABYTE - Matt:

Please note: Only BIOS listed on gigabyte's main support page are official tested BIOS. The one's provided below are for testing purposes and are not meant for general release. They may include unintentional bugs or quarks. Please share your experience with other members so we can help tweak and improve each new version.

Latest BETA BIOS (AGESA 1006)
Updated 6/1/17​

AX370-Gaming K7: F4D
AX370-Gaming K5: F3B
AX370-Gaming K3: F3A

AX370-Gaming 5: F6F
AX370-Gaming: F3A

AB350-Gaming 3: F7A
AB350-Gaming: F5B
AB350M-Gaming 3: F5B


Changes:

• AGESA 1006
• New memory multipliers: 3200, 3333, 3466, 3600, 3733, 3866, 4000MHz.
• 26 memory registers open
• IOMMU Grouping
• EZ Overclock Tuner
  

What the difference between "T" and "F" BIOS? Which should I use?

• "T" BIOS are test versions. They include tweaks our R&D team are experimenting with. They are likely less stable and may contain features/settings that never make it to a final version. Only use if you are comfortable adjusting advanced BIOS settings.
• "F" BIOS are beta versions. They include the latest fixes & AGESA code. They should be more stable than "T" versions. Use this if you want to test the latest AGESA code.

TL;DR: "T" are alpha releases. "F" are beta.

 

[darthbob]

Gigabyte May/June AGESA 1006 Update - Improved RAM Clocks & Compatibility


http://forum.gigabyte.us/post/6402/thread


http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/886/am4-beta-bios-thread

Thanks for this, updated my AX370-Gaming 5 with F6F and was able to boot with 2933MHz RAM for the first time ever.

 

[pooptest]

Ryzen BIOS links

Man, this is amazing. I appreciate your compilation efforts.

However, I'm still nervous to use random BIOS links... I mean, what is jzelectronic? (X370 Taichi owner). Seems odd.

But I really want to get my memory past the current lump I'm in. Can only get to 2667 with 1700x at 3.9. I hope 1.0.0.6 makes it so I can actually get my 3200 RAM at 3200........

 

[ViciousDS]

I just grabbed a 1700x and am upgrading my cube.


I tried researching as much as possible but this whole Zen thing is new to me( last AMD processor I grabbed was athlon 64, been a long time lol.) is this a good motherboard that I picked up for my build?


https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16813157762



I have an ASRock with my current setup which is actually the first mobo I ever bought by them and love how great they are with support and just overall quality.

I would put my 1070 in with it

 

[Mr Swine]

Thanks for this, updated my AX370-Gaming 5 with F6F and was able to boot with 2933MHz RAM for the first time ever.

What Ram do you have? I can boot my PC with my Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 16GB at 2933Mhz with 1.0.0.4. Hopefully I can boot them at 3200 with 1.0.0.6

 

[darthbob]

What Ram do you have? I can boot my PC with my Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 16GB at 2933Mhz with 1.0.0.4. Hopefully I can boot them at 3200 with 1.0.0.6

I have pretty similar sticks: CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 is the part # via CPU-Z.

Googling that I get this: http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-dram-3000mhz-c15-memory-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15

According to the GB forum post you should be able to run them at 3200MHz. Might need to disable XMP and just do it manually but in theory it should work. Good luck!

 

[magenta]

Gigabyte shows its mini ITX board

Just get these to the market already! :s

 

[·feist·]

↑↑↑↑↑
Guru3D somehow forgot the ASRock X370 Gaming-ITX/ac exists:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=238434498&postcount=2942
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11473/asrock-miniitx-x370-gaming-itxac
http://www.asrock.com/news/index.asp?ID=3625

I just grabbed a 1700x and am upgrading my cube.

I tried researching as much as possible but this whole Zen thing is new to me( last AMD processor I grabbed was athlon 64, been a long time lol.) is this a good motherboard that I picked up for my build?

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16813157762


I have an ASRock with my current setup which is actually the first mobo I ever bought by them and love how great they are with support and just overall quality.

I would put my 1070 in with it

From what little I've seen, the ASRock AB350 Pro4 seems better suited to 4- and 6-core CPUs if you intend to overclock. Most mATX B350 owners appear to be running MSI Mortar/Tomahawk, Asus Prime/Gaming or Gigabyte options.

Buildzoid breakdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzRG_LjUl8Q
http://www.overclock.net/t/1628404/asrock-ab350m-pro4-any-good
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/asrock-ab350-pro4-with-r7-1700.2503957/
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20753876096

Also see here:

『 Motherboards and Chipsets 』

AM4 Mainboard VRM Power Circuitry List - AM4 B350 / X370 VRM list [Hardwareluxx] | Google Translate​

Man, this is amazing. I appreciate your compilation efforts.

However, I'm still nervous to use random BIOS links... I mean, what is jzelectronic? (X370 Taichi owner). Seems odd.

But I really want to get my memory past the current lump I'm in. Can only get to 2667 with 1700x at 3.9. I hope 1.0.0.6 makes it so I can actually get my 3200 RAM at 3200........

I don't recommend anyone do anything they are not comfortable with, particularly as it relates to UEFI/BIOS updates.

A quick search shows that JZ Elec. have been posting Intel and AMD BIOS updates for years. The new ASRock AM4 betas are also posted here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1626177/asrock-fatal1ty-x370-gaming-pro/120#post_26132299
http://www.overclock.net/t/1627407/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread/600#post_26132901
https://www.techpowerup.com/233983/tpu-ryzen-bios-digest-issue-7


A separate and better known source would be 8Pack who is an OcUK contributer, custom builder and overclocker known globally:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=8pack+oc


The ASRock thread [support/feedback/etc]
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...t-feedback-etc.18760683/page-28#post-30822506

8 Pack:

https://mega.nz/#F!fd8QzbRT!pCKai2H8VEJzyilHvf9rnA

Beta bios for Taichi with latest Aegia code.

I have not tested as on the plane to Taiwan buy memory compatibility should improve alot with this.

I have new 8Pack mems coming post computex Samsung b 4 sticks 32 gig already working prior to this update 3200 c14 ;-) I qualified on many boards already.

***As always waiting for each motherboard manufacturer to post each release on their mobo support page is the most reliable source for updates.***

 

[·feist·]

If I didn't mention it before, AMD is said to be working on a socket TR4 AIO water cooler for Threadripper to be sold separately (and possibly in bundles). Would fully expect press review kits to include this and/or a 120mm/140mm tower-style aircooler such as Noctua's TR4 compatible 120mm and 140mm coolers.



Claimed Threadripper price speculation & official R7 price drops from AMD:


PC Gamer —— AMD quietly cuts prices on all three Ryzen 7 processors

The Tech Report —— AMD and Newegg drop prices on Ryzen 7 CPUs

WCCF Tech —— AMD Ryzen 7 Prices Drop By Up To 23% Ahead Of Threadripper Launch

https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/870373386391891968

Bits And Chips Twitter (English):

What about the entry-level 16C/32T ThreadRipper @ $849?

https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/870388109812355072

Bits And Chips Twitter (English):

According to my sources, a ThreadRipper 16C/32T (Dies+Package+Testing) cost AMD about 110-120$. 849$-110/120$ = 739/729$ Not bad.

https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/870400226175049729

Bits And Chips Twitter (English):

Due to Twitter's message limit, I post this link to explain AMD strategy: https://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=290705&postcount=594

https://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=290705&postcount=594

Fottemberg -aka- Bits And Chips Twitter (English):

Fott says $849 entry-level 16 Core TR - https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/870373386391891968

I would have hoped for $749 at the entry-level 16 core (couple of 1700's tied together...), and $549 for the entry-level 12 core, with another $50 off those being best case.

At AMD HQ are still talking about the prices, however this should be the final price (AMD is lowering the 1800X price in order to sell an entry level ThreadRipper 12C/24T @ about 500$). The main problems of this platform are the mainboards (Very expensive) and the RAMs (Also very expensive ... 4 channels).

Size comparison to Ryzen Mobile

Threadripper:

• 40MB cache (top end model)
• 64 lanes (all models)
• ECC memory support on HEDT

 

[nubbe]

The main problems of this platform are the mainboards (Very expensive) and the RAMs (Also very expensive ... 4 channels).

Eh, HEDT is expected to be expensive because of all the features it offers.
However AMD decides to price it, it will be guaranteed to offer tremendous value compared to Intel.

HEDT is simply for people who are better

 

[Tommy DJ]

yup, Intel made their platform irrelevant

I don't know why people honestly believe that.

I mean, I'm probably getting a TR4 socket system just to sit there and encode/render but outside of a few use cases, how many people who buy a HEDT need that number of PCIe lanes?

Most people are running a single GPU, maybe an 4x expansion card like a Thunderbolt card, and some M.2 cards. That's like 28 lanes?

If you need more PCIe lanes, its a good chance that you're generally fairly price insensitive and are more concerned about whether or not the end result is good. I don't disagree the arbitrary PCIe lane restriction is super lame but you're overestimating how much people actually care about it when push comes to shove.

 

[tim.mbp]

Gigabyte shows its mini ITX board

Just get these to the market already! :s

That is a strange layout.