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Andrew Stanton back to animation, helming 'Finding Nemo' sequel
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This is the real news. pics?
kame-sennin
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I really feared that Pixar being bought by Disney would lead to this kind of thing, but it's a shame to see it actually happen. The problem is that entertainment companies should not be publicly owned and traded on the stock market. Wall Street's mentality is to strip mine everything in order to maximize profit. Having a popular movie and not making a sequel is burning money as far as Wall Street is concerned. They'd rather run a franchise into the ground than leave it untouched. The problem is that entertainment properties shouldn't be treated that way. It hurts Pixar's brand and irritates the consumer, which can have negative affects over the long term. Unfortunately, the quarterly earnings mentality of big companies leaves no room for long-term thinking.
Thank you. The movie had terrible drops week after week, which suggests that there was no positive word of mouth once people actually saw the film. You can blame marketing for a bad opening, but if audiences reject a film after it's released, it means they didn't like it.
Thank you. The movie had terrible drops week after week, which suggests that there was no positive word of mouth once people actually saw the film. You can blame marketing for a bad opening, but if audiences reject a film after it's released, it means they didn't like it.
Cars 2 was fine. People just like to hate on that franchise as a whole.
Pixar has not made a movie that has disappointed me. Maybe Finding Nemo 2 would be good, but I disagree with it on principle.
Any Pixar movie is going to make money.
Pixar has not made a movie that has disappointed me. Maybe Finding Nemo 2 would be good, but I disagree with it on principle.
Any Pixar movie is going to make money.
Discotheque
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WTF is this shit? Finding Nemo might be by favorite Pixar film. And Andrew Stanton my second favorite director there. It doesn't need a sequel.
Fuck this.
Fuck this.
While I agree it's soulless profit-generating in a sense, if it was truly irritating the consumer, this wouldn't be happening. If people had a problem with it, they'd vote with their wallets.
IamMattFox
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I liked John Carter quite a bit.
Jeff Albertson
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It doesn't need a sequel but I love the film and the way it looks so colour me happy
Think it will feature Crush quite heavily as they seem to utilise him in the parks so must see him as popular
Think it will feature Crush quite heavily as they seem to utilise him in the parks so must see him as popular
SCULLIBUNDO
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Sounds kinky. Oh, you meant as in hide and seek.
Finding Nemo in my opinion is perfect. Its one if those films that should just never be touched again and kept pure cause its just so right. What the hell is Pixar doing?
Then again, part of me doesn't mind a sequel cause it was such a good film...
I guess I feel the same way I feel about it if I had a daughter. I would want her to stay pure forever, but if she wants a kid, I gotta accept she is gonna get down to business one day :/.
But seriously...Pixar...
INCREDIBLES 2.
Seriously.
Then again, part of me doesn't mind a sequel cause it was such a good film...
I guess I feel the same way I feel about it if I had a daughter. I would want her to stay pure forever, but if she wants a kid, I gotta accept she is gonna get down to business one day :/.
But seriously...Pixar...
INCREDIBLES 2.
Seriously.
Femmeworth
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Wait, did anyone make a Finding More Money joke yet?
Team Filler
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JC2: Gods of Mars. Make it happen, Disney!
Stumpokapow
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This doesn't really reflect how brands actually erode. You know what Hemmingway said about going bankrupt? It happens "gradually, then suddenly". The bad will builds up for a long time before customers actually start dropping off. See also every single Disney creative lull; RIM (Blackberry); Blockbuster and every other retailer that collapses.
Not saying that's happening with Pixar exactly, but simply saying "Their shit still makes money" doesn't prove it's not.
MatthewB92
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I miss Newt ;(
metalslimer
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Wait I thought that someone was just joking about that. Fuck Pixar man.
This is exactly how I feel about
The Incredibles
Ratatouille
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EDIT: Seriously, I'm surprised that so many are surprised about PIXAR sequels. They were always in the cards and as PIXAR matures, it stands to reason the quality will go down as they become a more legitimate revenue stream. I think they will try their best to do stories that are different from Disney (I don't think they care as much about Dreamworks), any deal they had with Disney involved sequels. The only thing that slowed that down was Lassiter running the entire animation department.
Major Zero
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I have seen it mentioned on Twitter, but I can't find any evidence beyond a year-old quote that ideas were being kicked about, and Twitter going crazy.
I feel exactly the same way
Sapphire Dreams
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Wait, wasn't the sequel canceled ? Did they revive it ?
Exterminieren
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It does amuse me that 3 new franchises were unveiled to general indifference, but as soon as a sequel gets mooted, the conversation immediately turns to how Pixar only does sequels and how they have no new ideas.
The internet has a very short memory sometimes.
The internet has a very short memory sometimes.
They're continuing to do shorts and there are two Toy Story television specials planned. One for October 2013, and one spring 2014. Probably Halloween and Easter themed. These are probably the projects that led to some people thinking there was a 4th film coming.
This is just Pixar-GAF being Pixar-GAF. I normally stay away from all Pixar threads here because the hyperbole and overreaction is off the charts.
megamerican
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I bet this is how it goes down. People bitch and bitch. Sequel comes out and is pretty good, makes a shit-ton of money. Stanton goes to line up his live action gig, "uh yeah.... about that...." Finding Nemo 3.
SonicMegaDrive
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I was thinking the very same thing.
ShipTheCheese
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Glad to see Stanton being given a 2nd chance, I really like the guy. Even though I hated JC, I think he has lots of potential. Still, would have preferred seeing an original IP, but I can understand the decision from a business perspective.
Femmeworth
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Chicken Little taught us that Mark Dindal is better at directing his own scripts. Oh wait, he meant the other Chicken Little.
A Link to the Past
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Honestly, I feel as though every Pixar sequel has been better than the last (Toy Story 2 was debatable). I'm cautiously optimistic.
WAT WAT WAT?!!! NOOOO. WHY? The end was perfect. Fin. Owari. I don't need to know how their life goes on at the new owner's place.
kame-sennin
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The thing about brand deterioration is that it can be very subtle. For instance, there are a lot of Pixar fans who will go see any movie Pixar makes because they trust Pixar to provide a unique, high quality experience. If Pixar's ratio of original to sequel films reaches a point that makes fans uncomfortable, that trust will begin to dissolve. That does not mean that Pixar sequels will make less money. Pixar fans will continue to go to sequels of films they already love. But ironically, fans may be less likely to take a risk on original films. It's not hard to imagine this leading to a negative feedback loop where sequels become the most profitable Pixar films, resulting in a higher ratio of sequels, while at the same time fans grow more and more disgruntled by the lack of original ideas.
I don't know that this will happen to Pixar, but it is really easy for executives in the entertainment industry to misread signals from the audience and make decisions that will hurt the brand over the long term.
Exactly.
elrechazado
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I hope it's as good as cars 2.
Femmeworth
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Cars 2 was not better than the first.
I actually want a sequel to The Incredibles, assuming Brad Bird was directing.
RatskyWatsky
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Are people pulling Toy Story 4 out of what Tom Hanks said that one time, or is it official?
Thus. Fucking this.
Callibretto
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what I love about finding nemo is not particularly the characters or the jokes, but the story of a father doing everything for his son. I hope they're not walking to a trap of doing the same story/theme all over again just because it's a sequel. Finding Nemo really doesnot need a sequel.
you know what need a seque? fucking Incredibles. where's my Incredibles 2 Pixar?
you know what need a seque? fucking Incredibles. where's my Incredibles 2 Pixar?
Jesus Christ, if I didn't know any better I'd be under the impression that Pixar made a movie that did absolutely nothing but shit on GAF for two hours with how some of you are reacting to this. I'd think with all the good will Pixar built up over the years leading up to Cars 2 people would be willing to let them have a few "okay" movies. Nope, unless they're making masterpiece after masterpiece, fuck'em.
For all we know this will end up great, the Toy Story trilogy has proven that Pixar knows how to make smart sequels. Don't try to convince me that Cars 2 is good enough evidence for the contrary. If Monsters University ends up being a heaping turd, then we'll talk, but until then? Who cares? Stanton is back directing an animated movie, which is more than enough to get me excited.
For all we know this will end up great, the Toy Story trilogy has proven that Pixar knows how to make smart sequels. Don't try to convince me that Cars 2 is good enough evidence for the contrary. If Monsters University ends up being a heaping turd, then we'll talk, but until then? Who cares? Stanton is back directing an animated movie, which is more than enough to get me excited.
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