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Android Hardware Thread - 2010 Edition

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NZer said:
I'm waiting for a Qwerty slider with a dedicated number row (will it ever happen?)

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? :lol
 
Oh, they've happened before (I've owned two phones with number row QWERTYs), I just mean a modern Android 2.2+ phone.
 
thirty said:
this is the phone blackberry fans have been asking for. too bad RIM would rather slap a new coat of paint on their existing phones from 2008 rather than create something new and exciting like this droid pro.

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reminds me of the imate ultimate 8502

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Always loved this form factor
 
DrFunk said:
great so G2 owners are stuck with bloatware, like photobucket, and the annoying notifications that may come with it.
 
DrFunk said:

That is BS.

One question about T-Mobile though, do they disable the built in tethering of Android phones subsidized by them (obviously they can't for unlocked ones)?

They really seem like the most consumer friendly carrier in the US, I'm surprised they would do this...and this is their doing, not Google's and I doubt HTC's; though it is hardware based so maybe it is HTC but I can't see why they would care if not influenced by the carrier.
 
thirty said:
great so G2 owners are stuck with bloatware, like photobucket, and the annoying notifications that may come with it.
It's most likely not a chip/rootkit (which there is no evidence of) and more of a hidden partition (which a lot of PCs have.) Just because they haven't found a way to get rid of that recovery partition yet (or, better, keep it but still

The blogosphere is infamous for overreacting and blowing things out of proportion. I'd really just wait. It's probably just something that you'd have to root and then immediately modify the bootloader or something.
 
Yeah the Droid X/2 eFuse thing wasn't that big a deal as the blogs hyped up, XDA is able to do custom ROMs and stuff on them now.
 
Can I just say that the Droid Pro looks like ass! What in the hell where they thinking? It looks like a bad blackberry.
 
Pctx said:
Can I just say that the Droid Pro looks like ass! What in the hell where they thinking? It looks like a bad blackberry.

Some people wanted it. I think it's dumb but it'll probably sell well.

Surprised the keyboard is bright blue seeing as how this is the "business" Droid. Guess it's not a big deal but still.
 
Pctx said:
Can I just say that the Droid Pro looks like ass! What in the hell where they thinking? It looks like a bad blackberry.

I like it. Much better than Moto's other BB-like phone Charm.
 
^ True I suppose that thing is horrid.

One thing that I'm still not liking is the keyboards on these Android phones. The X is the only phone that is as close to the iPhone keyboard as we have gotten on the Android platform. I'm hoping that acquiring that other company that has predictive text along with increased multi-touch ability will fix this.
 
Looks good. Still not getting why Google/Carriers/Manufactures are f'ning with the OS UI stuff and the programs/bloat.
 
Pctx said:
Looks good. Still not getting why Google/Carriers/Manufactures are f'ning with the OS UI stuff and the programs/bloat.
Because it is open and they can. It is the one thing pissing me off the most about Android. It would not be an issue if there were an easy option available to drop it down to stock Android that would not void your warranty or risk bricking the phone.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Because it is open and they can. It is the one thing pissing me off the most about Android. It would not be an issue if there were an easy option available to drop it down to stock Android that would not void your warranty or risk bricking the phone.

God, I'd love it if Google could make a revert to stock option mandatory somehow.
 
luxarific said:
God, I'd love it if Google could make a revert to stock option mandatory somehow.

It's not happening. They already said it won't. It defeats the purpose of open source. Plus Sense is good. I'd just change a few things and it would be perfect.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Because it is open and they can. It is the one thing pissing me off the most about Android. It would not be an issue if there were an easy option available to drop it down to stock Android that would not void your warranty or risk bricking the phone.
Open and because they can aren't good enough for me.

They should just have an option to run stock or run the vendors UI. There is absolutely no reason not to have it as an option. If Google is about consumer choice, they should give it to us.
 
Pctx said:
Open and because they can aren't good enough for me.

They should just have an option to run stock or run the vendors UI. There is absolutely no reason not to have it as an option. If Google is about consumer choice, they should give it to us.
Google is not responsible for Android on phones, the manufacturer UIs are necessary to differentiate from each other and bloatware pays some bills.
 
brotkasten said:
Google is not responsible for Android on phones, the manufacturer UIs are necessary to differentiate from each other and bloatware pays some bills.


The bloatware and differentiated UIs would still be there. It would just give those of us who don't want those things a way to opt out. It might actually serve to put some pressure on cell companies to make their shells actually interesting/worth keeping.
 
Andrex said:
Vote with your dollar.

How though? What phone outside of the iphone doesn't come with bloatware? Basically all feature phones, crackberries, android phones etc... all have some form of carrier induced fiddling going on.
 
gcubed said:
People did and the nexus one went down in flames so obviously people don't care enough

Maybe cause the N1 had way too many problems with it and the fact that it wasn't sold in stores and people couldn't even try it? Google took a gamble with it and they failed they just won't admit it.
 
Jazzy Network said:
Maybe cause the N1 had way too many problems with it and the fact that it wasn't sold in stores and people couldn't even try it? Google took a gamble with it and they failed they just won't admit it.

I thought the N1 was just Google's way of getting manufacturers to elevate the spec of Android phones. Up until it came out, everything else was lacking.
 
An update was just rolled out today for Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant users. Fixes the GPS! Now I won't hesitate to recommend this phone. Yay :-) can't wait till my phone has it.
 
That's the theory. I saw a Nexus One for the first time tonight. That is one sweet looking phone. Small and thin. What a great design!
 
Andrex said:
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/10/07/cherrypal-announces-7inch-android-21-tablet-sub200-price-tag/

Pros:
- Android 2.1
- Full Market access
- 7-inch screen
- 1.1 lbs
- Only $188
- 3200 mAh
- 2 GB memory
- MicroSD, USB 2.0, 3.5mm headphone jack, microphone

Cons:
- Resistive screen
- 256 MB RAM
- Only 802.11b/g, no n
- Not Android 2.2 (upgrade coming later)

Unknown:
- 800 MHz processor, could be like the G2's or it could be last-gen

$188?! I would pay another 20 for triple the ram. Fuckin bought.
 
I'm guessing this is the correct place to ask this (opposed to the software thread), but has there been any word on the fabled Gingerbread update yet? Last I heard, something was going to be shown/said about it this month sometime, but I don't really have any idea what is happening with it now. I know its going to boast some UI improvements that liken it to the 3D gallery that popped up on a phone of which I can't remember, and its supposedly going to be a bit of a second tier for them with their premium devices...but I thought it we would hear some fresh rustling about it by now.

Any recent news?
 
giga said:
Anything with a resistive screen doesn't deserve the word decent for its description.

Resistive tech has gotten a lot better but it varies from device to device.

Also the Nintendo DS is resistive, what are you saying?
 
Ah but he didn't qualify it that way.

The PR says no stylus needed so I'm going to assume it's halfway decent.
 
I wouldn't really take the jump to assume it's decent. Given the past tablets/phones that have had sucky resistive screens.
 
abstract alien said:
I'm guessing this is the correct place to ask this (opposed to the software thread), but has there been any word on the fabled Gingerbread update yet? Last I heard, something was going to be shown/said about it this month sometime, but I don't really have any idea what is happening with it now. I know its going to boast some UI improvements that liken it to the 3D gallery that popped up on a phone of which I can't remember, and its supposedly going to be a bit of a second tier for them with their premium devices...but I thought it we would hear some fresh rustling about it by now.

Any recent news?

Well seems you're a bit behind, the premium device/3D gallery inspiration rumor was debunked by a Google dude on Twitter. Google snatched a Palm UI guy who was behind the Sidekick UI and webOS so we should expect something pretty and different, although it obviously won't be a dramatic departure. Android And Me has been saying Verizon and Moto are going to introduce Gingerbread this holiday/early 2011. I wouldn't except it soon, probably december/january. Which is fine by me.
 
jonnybryce said:
Well seems you're a bit behind, the premium device/3D gallery inspiration rumor was debunked by a Google dude on Twitter. Google snatched a Palm UI guy who was behind the Sidekick UI and webOS so we should expect something pretty and different, although it obviously won't be a dramatic departure. Android And Me has been saying Verizon and Moto are going to introduce Gingerbread this holiday/early 2011. I wouldn't except it soon, probably december/january. Which is fine by me.

Sounds awesome from my standpoint as well. Thanks for catching me up, can't wait to see what they turn out.
 
oneHeero said:
hmm..

Every Samsung phone I've played with always feel like they have response problems. My friend had the Moment and whenever I sued it the screen didnt feel like it always responded. My wife has the Intercept and sometimes I feel the same about it.

How would you say the screen feels in terms of response? Is the Evo screen a lot bigger than the Epic?
No the Epic doesn't have that issue. The CPU is very fast and it does not suffer the lag issue that plagued the Vibrant and Captivate. Yes th Evo's screen is noticeably bigger and I almost chose it for that reason but the graphics performance is sooo well below the Galaxy S phones I just could't do it. I want something that will most suredly be fast on 3.0 Gingerbread too.

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The evo screen is 4.3" and the Epic's screen is 4"
 
man, the sidekick was really ahead of it's time. the device was plagued with a poor cpu and memory but i remember every single option on the device being so intuitive. besides the hardware, the only issues i had with the sidekick UI were its awful artwork. i loved the rotary action of the apps and functions; i can't believe no one has copied that and made a new 3D version of it.
 
thirty said:
man, the sidekick was really ahead of it's time. the device was plagued with a poor cpu and memory but i remember every single option on the device being so intuitive. besides the hardware, the only issues i had with the sidekick UI were its awful artwork. i loved the rotary action of the apps and functions; i can't believe no one has copied that and made a new 3D version of it.

I agree. It aged and fell behind but the Sidekick kicked ass, I remember being so impressed with the functionality, the way everything worked (and lived on the sidekick website) and the app catalog. Shame it didn't evolve and stay a big player in the game.
 
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