LegendofDragoonLives
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No it really isn't just him. Saying that, I expect H5 to be a vastly superior game to Shadowfall.
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Anyone else underwhelmed by Halo 5's visuals?
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Lion Heart
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Everything about this game seems mediocre.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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This post nails it. Halo will be fun as hell, yes, even with 343 at the helm.
Looking at new screens and all:
It looks okay, but really the entire scene looks flat or something, there's next to no shadows or reflections going on, something that's been a big focus with the shift to PBR this generation. And Halo 5 just kinda looks like a slightly upgraded Halo 4?
I mean jeez, this is what a launch game for ps4 looked like and 2 years later Halo 5 can't match it?
What do you guys think?
Well yes, it doesn't. Killzone was always an example of what a console could do, Halo only did that in 4. Add to this it only has half the time to render a frame on a console which is significantly weaker. You often play the informed gamer but your threads tell a different story.
johnnydrama
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Nope, it looks goddamn fantastic. I love the art style, and it's technically sound. The recent Digital Foundry analysis revealed that it runs at a 60FPS, while maintaining that visual fidelity. I'd say that's pretty commendable.
I can't take any of the Killzone comparisons seriously because,
1. The levels are fucking massive.
2. It runs at a 60FPS.
3. It runs on comparatively weaker hardware.
And it still comes pretty close.
I'm no Halo fan, but I'm pretty pumped for this entry just because of their gameplay-first approach. That art direction has really impressed me so far, and 60FPS in first person shooters (well, pretty much everything) is so much fun to play, and I can't wait to get my hands on this game.
Now, about the "It looks like a 1080p Halo 4" comments. I suggest you play Halo 4 on the Xbox One and then watch some of the YouTube videos of this game. Neither the scale, nor the visual fidelity is comparable. You're making unsubstantiated statements here. It's very easy to pick a really good Halo 4 shot to compare with a really bad Halo 5 shot to push an agenda, but you are factually incorrect if you say that Halo 5 looks like Halo 4 running at a higher resolution.
Edit: The game does drop a couple of frames for a split second on two occasions in the new Gamescom demo, so I removed the "locked" before 60FPS.
I can't take any of the Killzone comparisons seriously because,
1. The levels are fucking massive.
2. It runs at a 60FPS.
3. It runs on comparatively weaker hardware.
And it still comes pretty close.
I'm no Halo fan, but I'm pretty pumped for this entry just because of their gameplay-first approach. That art direction has really impressed me so far, and 60FPS in first person shooters (well, pretty much everything) is so much fun to play, and I can't wait to get my hands on this game.
Now, about the "It looks like a 1080p Halo 4" comments. I suggest you play Halo 4 on the Xbox One and then watch some of the YouTube videos of this game. Neither the scale, nor the visual fidelity is comparable. You're making unsubstantiated statements here. It's very easy to pick a really good Halo 4 shot to compare with a really bad Halo 5 shot to push an agenda, but you are factually incorrect if you say that Halo 5 looks like Halo 4 running at a higher resolution.
Edit: The game does drop a couple of frames for a split second on two occasions in the new Gamescom demo, so I removed the "locked" before 60FPS.
Didn't DF do a test that proved otherwise? Or was there a more recent one? Either way, it is one of the uglier games I've seen this gen.
SaganIsGOAT
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Y'all some cynical gamers if you think halo 5 looks bad for a 60fps title with scale larger than any previous Halo.
MightyHedgehog
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I think it's important to note that Halo games are comparatively massive, highly traversable FPS worlds filled with more impressive and greater numbers of AI compared to anything in Killzone which is much smaller, much simpler and less dynamic with no integrated vehicle combat and physics nor having to manage four player co-op with AI players for all vacant spots. KZ or Metro are about some of the worst choices to make a comparison against Halo given their much narrower, smaller scope. I cannot think of another current or upcoming console FPS that matches up to what Halo 5 seems to be doing despite the dampening effect its more performance-focused visuals and familiarity of gameplay and look has. And 343 says it's far bigger than previous games. That's gotta be worth some consideration.
The dynamic scaling is going to impact visuals. They prioritized framerate over graphic fidelity.
It can reach it. Question is, how often.
Shocking.
Nearly every mention you make of "Xbone" tends to be laced with this system wars fanboy bullshit. Let it go man.
SaganIsGOAT
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Foutrologue
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Who said that? Matter of fact Halo 4 MCC is actually running at a higher res than Halo 5 and at 60Fps. That's why people are disappointed by Halo 5. I own MCC so I'm not comparing "best case Halo 4 screenshots" to what has been shown of H5.
Krappadizzle
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I personally am underwhelmed. Halo has always been a graphical powerhouse up until this point in my opinion. I don't think they are bad, just not exceptional like previous releases. I thought H4 was one of the best if not the best looking game on the 360.
But, visuals aren't the whole story for me though, and I really like what I've seen in regards to the gameplay changes.
But, visuals aren't the whole story for me though, and I really like what I've seen in regards to the gameplay changes.
AllIsOneIsNone
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It looks to be one of the best looking games on the Xbox One. I haven't been able to say that about a Bungie Halo game since Halo 1. 343 makes good looking games. So no, I'm not disappointed.
SmokedMeat
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Looks fine to me.
Pai Pai Master
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Looks fine for a 60fps Xbox One game.
SaganIsGOAT
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Whoa damn son hella fanboy
Arby 'n' the Chief
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CalamityPixel
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Holy shit that's bad.
julzillamilitia
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johnnydrama
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You're going to tell me that point isn't regularly brought up in Halo 5 threads? Sure it doesn't look a whole generation ahead of Halo 4, but people really need to consider that it's running at a locked 60FPS, which even Halo 4 doesn't manage on the Xbox One. Moreover, Halo 4 was heavily criticized for its narrow levels, while Halo 5 has the biggest levels of any Halo game. Sacrifices have to be made to achieve your goals when you're working with console hardware. I wish people could see past the raw graphics and appreciate massive improvements in other areas.
johnnydrama
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Wow. Pretty sad that these threads have to devolve into "system warz" though.
Arby 'n' the Chief
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E3 game build, Gamescom build discredits that
johnnydrama
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The Gamescom build was running at a locked 60 FPS, except for one cutscene where it glitched out, I believe.
It's not for now. But it is very stable. Check again that Gamescom video and look at the numbers or green line.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=176813837&postcount=53
SmackAttack
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If we're judging based on screenshots, then I say it looks good to me. For me the worst part of Halo 4's visuals was how washed out and overly shiny and bright it looked at times:
As long as Halo 5 has less of that, it'll be much better to me.
As long as Halo 5 has less of that, it'll be much better to me.
Krappadizzle
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Na, it's not that bad. I just sit back, try not to get involved and just chuckle. It's entertaining when it happens as it reminds me of when I was kid arguing the benefits of "Blast Processing" on the playground in 2nd grade.
MAX PAYMENT
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Halo 5 will be far better than that crap kill zone game.
KiefbladeMaster
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It looks alright for running at a solid 60 frames. Levels just look kind of dull, it's more of an art direction thing imo.
In the new Mission Impossible I thought Simon Pegg was playing Halo 4 until it showed him shove the copy of Guardians into his desk. (Obviously not an apt comparison, just thought it was funny.)
In the new Mission Impossible I thought Simon Pegg was playing Halo 4 until it showed him shove the copy of Guardians into his desk. (Obviously not an apt comparison, just thought it was funny.)
johnnydrama
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I fail to see any real drops apart from that one cutscene where it seemed like a glitch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhwuIWws4NM
I might be wrong. Could you point it out please?
...Scatter...
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Killzone is like that superficial supermodel. Great to look at but not a lot of fun to hang with for more than a day or two.
Halo is that super cute girl with a great personality. Sure you won't see her on a runway, but you'll have fun no matter where you take her because she has a great personality to boot.
Halo 5 looks super smooth. Lets hope they make it incredibly fun too. I forget about the super great graphical details when I'm running for my life.
I know I'm biased. I'll just Avatar quote myself.
Halo is that super cute girl with a great personality. Sure you won't see her on a runway, but you'll have fun no matter where you take her because she has a great personality to boot.
Halo 5 looks super smooth. Lets hope they make it incredibly fun too. I forget about the super great graphical details when I'm running for my life.
I know I'm biased. I'll just Avatar quote myself.
Just watch the green line then. You will find 3 sections with frame drops. 1 section has a little more drops
Mmmmmmm....no! Not for now.
natethegreat409
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I only really care about stable framerates in FPS games. I am not one to sit and awe at graphics. Most PC games I turn to low to make sure I get the smoothest game possible.
I absolutely hate stuttering. Hate it. I'll take subpar graphics with a smooth and stable framerate all day.
I absolutely hate stuttering. Hate it. I'll take subpar graphics with a smooth and stable framerate all day.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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Meh, they can try me. I don't own any of the consoles. Just PC
Nemesis121
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PC gamer here, bought an Xbox 360 about 3 weeks ago, got Halo 3, Reach and 4, just for campaigns,(no Gold Live and no plans for it) and sheeesh the framerate drops below 30 so many times, 10 mins into H3 campaign and FPS drop, this shit is disgusting to me, Halo 4 looks nice but those below 30FPS drop during medium to big battles is disgusting..I would sacrifice looks any day for FPS...Graphics DON'T MAKE THE GAME...
But remember, just as you feel that way, others (not myself) feel that graphics do make a game.
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