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Apocalypse VS Darkseid
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Megadragon15 said:
darkseid could take on thanos and would give Galactus a hard time, no way apocalypse would win
Sho_Nuff82
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Darkseid is written as a much more powerful character, capable of going head to head with the likes of Superman and Doomsday (and in the Marvel vs. DC crossover, Thanos. And in another one-shot, Galactus).
Apocalypse was killed by Magneto in the Age of Apocalypse, and has been defeated by the likes of Stryfe (basically Cable) and Namor.
No contest.
Apocalypse was killed by Magneto in the Age of Apocalypse, and has been defeated by the likes of Stryfe (basically Cable) and Namor.
No contest.
Hot Coldman
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Bah, the Doctor could take 'em both.
MisterHero
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Superman would throw both into the Source wall anyways and Goku
Manmademan
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krypt0nian said:
Apocalypse is actually pretty powerful depending on which body he is using at the time. In his original appearances, he was pretty much indestructible. nothing could hurt him, kill him, or KO him- he waded through the combined assault of the Xmen and Inhumans combined like it wasn't even there, and was only killed by a plot device.
Since then (this was the mid 90s) they had him appearing in weakened, half-regenerated states, or inhabiting "host bodies" that were far, far weaker than the original. I haven't kept up with comics recently, but I believe he recently took possession of Stryfe's body, which from the beginning was designed to be the "perfect" vessel for him during the Messiah war event. if he's back up to his "classic" power levels, it could definitely be a fight.
Apocalypse has every power under the sun, can invent more as he sees fit, and is sitting on an enormous cache of the most advanced technology in the marvel universe. He doubled the power of the hulk with it, powerdrained gods, and even used it to pull characters from alternate future timelines for his purposes. with prep it could get interesting, though personally I think Thanos is a better match.
Apocalypse has proven himself equal to or stronger than the incredible hulk, beaten the high evolutionary head to head, and beat down and powerdrained Loki with no prep at all. All three are in the superman/doomsday league- and high evolutionary is arguably much more powerful.
That apocalypse was from an alternate timeline- the loss isn't canon since we don't know what kind of body or powerlevels that version of apocalypse was using. It's also out of character to be torn in half and "killed" when you have the ability to detach your head from your body and fly it around the room at will.
I disagree.
BlackNMild2k1
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According to Wiki, yes, yes it isDucarmel said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Super_Heroes_(arcade_game)
Manmademan
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ArjanN said:
Not really that impressive next to the marvel or DC top tier. I can name a dozen different ways goku would get annihilated vs Thor, The Flash, Silver Surfer, etc
Hot Coldman
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mcrae said:
His lack of powers is the reason people love him- it makes him that much cooler and bad-ass. With powered heroes, I don't usually give a toss about the person, I'm usually attracted to the powers. Batman is different, and better because of it.
She's Death of the Endless and are her comics worth a read? Sandman is almost held in as high regard as The Watchmen, although Death is a supporting character. She has some shorts of her own though that are decent. Just don't ever ever ever ever ever touch Death: At Death's Door.Ducarmel said:
BlueScrote
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This thread needs more doomsday. Ya know, the guy who killed superman.
Metalic Sand
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Apocalypse would win.
the_log_ride
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Darkseid! wtf Apocalypse? C'mon, where's Thanos at
edit: beaten several times over
edit: beaten several times over
Manmademan
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mcrae said:
well yes, but the appeal of batman is that he manages to come out on top and/or defeat much more powerful opponents using nothing more than his wits, skills, and a gigantic neverending supply of money and gadgets.
kind of a "triumph of the human spirit" kind of thing to see "just a man" hang with gods and superhumans.
Manmademan
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Zeliard said:
surfer would probably beat the holy hell out of both, written properly. And before the DC fanboys come after me, remember that darkseid was killed in Rock of Ages by Batman and the Atom.
Forgotten_Taco
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Green Scar said:
Well Doom is closet we'll ever get to Batman as villain.
Manmademan
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Forgotten_Taco said:
I think he meant This Doctor.
at least, I hope he did, because if he was talking about Dr. Who I'd have to slap him.
evil solrac v3.0
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while Thanos has done some pretty amazing stuff, he was defeated by Odin, a god, so therefore it stands to reason that a more powerful and evil god like Darkseid (praise be to Darkseid) who ripped apart the multiverse AS HE WAS FALLING DOWN, could defeat Thanos who is not as impressive without the infinity gaunlet.
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Manmademan said:
Slap away :lol
Manmademan
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evil solrac v3.0 said:
:lol :lol :lol
Odin isn't just "a god" he was head of his pantheon, and eeeeeeeeeaaaaasily the most powerful "god" on the planet. One fight with Seth shattered galaxies, turned moons to dust, and created new suns in the process. Did I mention it took place on every plane of existence simultaneously? so...er...yeah.
He has ridiculous feats like restoring an entire race to life, teleporting everyone on earth off the planet, and moving his entire dimension through time and space into the negative zone.
Odin is weaker than say, galactus and the celestials, but is still horrendously powerful. I'd put him over Darkseid easily.
Green Scar said:
oh good lord. This reminds me of a particularly irritating Dr. Who vs. Dr Doom argument...
I'm not aware of Darkseid being much of a cosmic threat outside of being able to damage the DCU due to the Orrery. He's really much more of an abstract threat since his two main goals are to conquer (sorta) New Genesis and to gain the anti-life equation, which is in theory a cosmic threat but (here comes nerd) since his applications have been so limited in scope it's hard to say what would happen if he went up against, say, Larfleeze.Sullen said:
The original use of Darkseid was symbolic/metaphorical, so he's really not meant to "vs" anyone. Yeah, he fights Superman (who is an appropriate foe), but the 4th World really doesn't mesh well with the DCU. You have a "good" leader who communicates semi-directly with a sort of Buddha-Jehovah entity. You have a Batman+-intelligent evil leader who seems compelled to use total dunces as proxies on Earth and who controls an entire planet... somehow.
water_wendi
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Thats Death. DC/Vertigo comics Death. Check out Sandman. Its a fantastic series.Ducarmel said:
Its too bad for Thanos that hes in the Marvel universe :lol
krypt0nian
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Jacobi said:
You are a silly person.
Manmademan
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evil solrac v3.0
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Manmademan said:
DARKSEID TRIPPED AND RIPPED THE MULTIVERSE A NEW ONE. i don't think i can say that enough times, he was at once everyone and everything in the universe, he escaped oblivion more than once (the source wall) once when he fought his son he fought him as everyone and everything across the universe. Odin is/was?
a tough old man but Darkseid grinds your will and spits you out. Darkseid is life. and Darkseid has this :Manmademan
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evil solrac v3.0 said:DARKSEID TRIPPED AND RIPPED THE MULTIVERSE A NEW ONE. i don't think i can say that enough times, he was at once everyone and everything in the universe, he escaped oblivion more than once (the source wall) once when he fought his son he fought him as everyone and everything across the universe. Odin is/was?
Right. and at the same time he was killed by the atom, and had his ass handed to him by superman. so which is it? If we're talking feats, again...Odin's fight took place on every plane of existence at once. all of them. destroying galaxies and sparking suns to life. Dismissing him as "a tough old man" or "just a god" means nothing other than you probably need to read more comics.
edit: found it, just to show I'm not using hyperbole. And that's using just a fraction of the Odinpower, as Thor found out after Odin's death.
also, the above really isn't all that impressive, as Thanos did the same thing with a cosmic cube.
krypt0nian
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evil solrac v3.0 said:DARKSEID TRIPPED AND RIPPED THE MULTIVERSE A NEW ONE. i don't think i can say that enough times, he was at once everyone and everything in the universe, he escaped oblivion more than once (the source wall) once when he fought his son he fought him as everyone and everything across the universe. Odin is/was?
Exactly. Arguing further just seems silly.
Gotta go with the one who definitely is much more of a pimp. Darkseid's the man.
Shoot, I think that some of the fruit from Darkseid's loins (at least Orion, who successfully "killed" Darkseid by ripping out his FUCKING HEART!), could probably take Pooky on with not too many problems.
Shoot, I think that some of the fruit from Darkseid's loins (at least Orion, who successfully "killed" Darkseid by ripping out his FUCKING HEART!), could probably take Pooky on with not too many problems.
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evil ways said:
TBH none of the horsemen were really all that impressive (unless you count the AOA horsemen)
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Manmademan said:
Gambit as Death seemed pretty cool but I'm a Gambit fanboy.
Manmademan
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Jamesfrom818 said:
none of the mainstream horsemen really stack up well next to Sinister, Abyss, Mikhail Rasputin and Holocaust.
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