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[SteveMeister]

It would be cool if you could dynamically scale the keyboard somewhat. I have bigger hands, so the full screen keyboard would be necessary, but for those with smaller hands, perhaps scaling it differently would make it easier to type on.

Isn't the keyboard is bigger in landscape orientation than it is in portrait?

 

[Blackface]

What an arrogant thing to say. There are plenty of "savvy" consumers who are planning to buy an iPad. Just because it may not fit YOUR needs doesn't mean that it shouldn't fit ANYONE's.

"Savvy" consumers will buy it because it's the newest gadget out and they want to give it a spin. There really is nothing it can do that something a "Savvy" consumer has, can't do already, better.

It's safe to say this isn't a computer, or really even a computing device. It's a consumer electronic, like an Ipod. It has a distinct purpose, it's closed in, and is closer to a cell phone then a computer.

It really does nothing something else can't do better. If it had flash, USB and Multi-tasking, then it can take another leap forward. You could start using it instead of Netbooks and laptops for various everyday applications. That combined with it's great form factor for media consumption and we could be talking about something big.

It's just to weak right now. My stove and coffee maker can both multi-task. If I have an iphone, why do I want to drop $600-$829 on this thing? So I can have a larger screen to read on?

I think the Ipad will eventually be very successful. It will just take a couple revisions for it to hit the ground running. Once multi-tasking, USB and other features are added and competitors launch their products (such as the Slate) things will change. I understand Apple wants this to be more like a consumer electronic then a computer, but some compromises should be made.

Some people will enjoy their Ipad when they get it. But thats because they don't know better. Like the saying goes, "you don't know shit smells bad until you smell a rose."

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Seems like someones guess regarding Apple putting out the $1,000 controlled leak was correct.

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/29/tablet-manufacturers-reevaluating-pricing-options-in-light-of-ipad-announcement/

DigiTimes reports that several Asian notebook manufacturers were taken by surprise by the unexpectedly low entry-level $499 price point for Apple's iPad, forcing them to reconsider how they will price upcoming tablet models.

The vendors originally planned to offer prices pegged at 20-30% lower than the Apple iPad, while they generally expected the device to cost as much as US$1,000. The US$499 entry-level price has caught vendors by surprise and means they will now need to adjust their price scales even lower to attract consumers, the sources pointed out.
The report notes that manufacturers are reluctant to undercut the iPad price and start a pricing war for fear of eliminating profit margins even before the industry can really take hold. The fears seem justified in light of plunging netbook prices, which have reduced profits in that segment to razor-thin margins even as unit sales have exploded.

Reports as long as ago as last August claimed that tablet manufacturers were holding off on new designs for their products until they could see what Apple's contribution to the market would be.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

It really does nothing something else can't do better.

Holy shit. You're taking your frustrations on its shortcomings out on every element of the system.

I'll give a simple example of something the iPad does better than anything else I've seen: zooming webpages. Do you know how every other site has a sidebar full of ads? Double tap or pinch zoom on a site element to zoom into it and the ads off to the side disappear. You can't get quick per-page instant zooming capabilities with any other browser.

Apple's PR photo with Facebook loaded up on the iPad actually had the entire ad sidebar on the right completely cut out because of the efficiency of the zoom function.

 

[maharg]

Size will be a factor here. The touch keyboard on the iPad is larger than the entire face of the iPhone, that should facilitate ease of use.

Obviously I haven't used it, but I actually expect quite the opposite. When you're 'really' typing you're not looking at the keyboard, you're looking at the screen. When you're not looking at a keyboard with no tactile feedback, your hands drift.

Note that this is not the first large-size tactile-less keyboard ever. They were mildly popular in the 80s for a while until everyone realized how much they sucked. They were flat plastic surfaces with low resistance button keys and you really couldn't touch type on them.

Two handed typing while looking at the keyboard is very tedious. A lot of people are going to discover that now, I suspect.

If I were designing it I'd have probably put two iphone-size keyboards on each of the two bottom corners to allow you to easily use your thumb for typing, because I think that'll actually be more comfortable.

 

[Keylime]

Some people will enjoy their Ipad when they get it. But thats because they don't know better.

Come on, man... :lol

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

"I have doubts whether people will be wearing glasses to play games at home. How is that going to look to other people?" he said at a Tokyo hotel.

:lol

Do you mean an app? Again, how does that help without multitasking?

That's a good point. Future iterations will hopefully approve on this.

Kind of, yeah.


People on both 'sides' makes a point that isn't really trying to be arguing, and the other side just make a comment in response, and then the original side takes it as an attack, when it wasn't meant to be.

Both sides. It's going nowhere. Like arguing for the sake of arguing. We're all out of discussion points, really.

All of these arguments over people who have never even used the thing.

 

[numble]

It's just to weak right now. My stove and coffee maker can both multi-task. If I have an iphone, why do I want to drop $600-$829 on this thing? So I can have a larger screen to read on?

Bad comparison, since all these things offer limited multitasking, just like iPhone offers limited multitasking.

 

[SnakeXs]

"Savvy" consumers will buy it because it's the newest gadget out and they want to give it a spin. There really is nothing it can do that something a "Savvy" consumer has, can't do already, better.

It's safe to say this isn't a computer, or really even a computing device. It's a consumer electronic, like an Ipod. It has a distinct purpose, it's closed in, and is closer to a cell phone then a computer.

It really does nothing something else can't do better. If it had flash, USB and Multi-tasking, then it can take another leap forward. You could start using it instead of Netbooks and laptops for various everyday applications. That combined with it's great form factor for media consumption and we could be talking about something big.

It's just to weak right now. My stove and coffee maker can both multi-task. If I have an iphone, why do I want to drop $600-$829 on this thing? So I can have a larger screen to read on?

I think the Ipad will eventually be very successful. It will just take a couple revisions for it to hit the ground running. Once multi-tasking, USB and other features are added and competitors launch their products (such as the Slate) things will change. I understand Apple wants this to be more like a consumer electronic then a computer, but some compromises should be made.

Some people will enjoy their Ipad when they get it. But thats because they don't know better. Like the saying goes, "you don't know shit smells bad until you smell a rose."

:lol

Do you have a newsletter I can sign up for? Seriously, you slay me with every post. Keep 'em coming.

 

[Blackface]

Bad comparison, since all these things offer limited multitasking, just like iPhone offers limited multitasking.

Thats my point. The Ipad is just as limited and does the same thing with a larger screen. So am I dropping $600-$800 for a bigger screen if I already have an Iphone?

 

[mrkgoo]

"Savvy" consumers will buy it because it's the newest gadget out and they want to give it a spin. There really is nothing it can do that something a "Savvy" consumer has, can't do already, better.

It's safe to say this isn't a computer, or really even a computing device. It's a consumer electronic, like an Ipod. It has a distinct purpose, it's closed in, and is closer to a cell phone then a computer.

It really does nothing something else can't do better. If it had flash, USB and Multi-tasking, then it can take another leap forward. You could start using it instead of Netbooks and laptops for various everyday applications. That combined with it's great form factor for media consumption and we could be talking about something big.

It's just to weak right now. My stove and coffee maker can both multi-task. If I have an iphone, why do I want to drop $600-$829 on this thing? So I can have a larger screen to read on?

I think the Ipad will eventually be very successful. It will just take a couple revisions for it to hit the ground running. Once multi-tasking, USB and other features are added and competitors launch their products (such as the Slate) things will change. I understand Apple wants this to be more like a consumer electronic then a computer, but some compromises should be made.

Some people will enjoy their Ipad when they get it. But thats because they don't know better. Like the saying goes, "you don't know shit smells bad until you smell a rose."

So if I enjoy it, I simply don't know better? *sad puppy*

NOTHING it does better? That's subjective, or a the very least user defined.

It does the one thing better than anything else - be a multitouch 10" device. THAT is the selling point of it - that combined with the software. The device is NOT about any single function, so saying that there is something out there better than any one thing is missing the point.

To say that there is a better device out there at every one function is akin to saying someone should buy a swiss army knife because there are better knives, flashlights, can openers, bottle openers, tooth picks out there. Not the best analogy (as it's matter of convenience here, whereas the iPad is about experience as well), but you get the idea.

Again, selling point for me is UI, touchscreen goodness, and 'fun'. It's not that it can 'do' photos, and can 'read' emails, and can 'browse' the web, it' that it can do these things in a new way - all in one.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

"Savvy" consumers will buy it because it's the newest gadget out and they want to give it a spin. There really is nothing it can do that something a "Savvy" consumer has, can't do already, better.

...

Some people will enjoy their Ipad when they get it. But thats because they don't know better. Like the saying goes, "you don't know shit smells bad until you smell a rose."

Ugh... again, it's about filling a different gap. Yes, it lacks a lot of the functionality I expect from my main computing device (which is, in my case, my custom-built desktop PC), but that's not the primary use of this particular piece of hardware.

For me, I'm fairly certain that I don't want this thing on day one. However, my interest in it is that, right now, I've pretty much grown bored with laptop computing. I have my desktop, and I've got my iPhone which gets the job done adequately enough for those "I don't feel like going over to the desk moments." However, I have looked at getting another laptop or notebook, but just don't think I'd use it enough to justify the cost. This, however, is tempting as a replacement for my iPhone as my go-to, portable, lounging around the house computing device. It just seems like the perfect bridge device to fill a gap that laptops and netbooks aren't filling for me right now.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Thats my point. The Ipad is just as limited and does the same thing with a larger screen. So am I dropping $600-$800 for a bigger screen if I already have an Iphone?

You're not forced to buy anything.

Also: some people don't have iPhones or iPods already.

 

[Solid Moustache]

That looks nice .

Here's something I should add, I already commented here but I posted this elsewhere and I feel like posting it here too:

People don't get the point about the iPad it's not supposed to be a full fledged computer, that's obvious. It's meant to be a device for your average less tech savvy user who only browses a few pages, reads the news, checks facebook for the new pictures of their family and occasionally needs to do some word processing, all of this experience in a less scary package than your average pc or even mac. They don't want openness they don't want 9999 features or the ability to tinker with every imaginable setting. They just want to do what they want without complicated interface metaphors getting in their way. Experienced users can also use this device; there's no doubt about that, you just need to think different ( how cliche.. ) and accept that this is probably the future of computing. One that makes everything easy to use and feels like it's not even there, Apple has paved the way for technologies that are common today like multi-touch mp3 players, wi-fi and many others; they often have a great 6th sense about knowing what the future of computing is; that's why other competitors even tried to rush into the tablet computer but their solutions aren't good enough; putting a layer of touch over Win7 is not good enough, android has potential but not the right devices and at this stage it's not mature enough, netbooks are smaller but at the same time worse in every aspect. Apple just managed to kill two birds with a single blow: netbooks and tablets.

Multitasking: One day processors will evolve and let us have 99 apps open in the background without any problem and until we're close to that Apple won't allow multitasking and making people wonder why their device has about 2 hours of battery while they have dozens of apps in the backgruound sucking up processing power.

Sorry skeptic folks but iPad-like devices are the future no matter how unlikely you find that. Remember when the iPod came out people were saying "what's the point", "Less than a nomad, no wireless, this sucks"?

That's what a friend calls "Future Shock", the future is here but your mind can't accept it.

Sorry about The Great Wall of Text.

 

[mrkgoo]

Thats my point. The Ipad is just as limited and does the same thing with a larger screen. So am I dropping $600-$800 for a bigger screen if I already have an Iphone?

Well, I admit, that a bigger screen is pretty much all that it offers, at least, functionally over an iPod touch (definitely the main thing - that's a little of my disappointment), but just to shrug it off as "more screen space" is not seeing the bigger picture. The things you can do with a larger device changes. It changes the way you use it. It's not just 'bigger', it's bigger beyond a certain point that makes it a new device.

Just look at iWork. That's just not a viable option on an iPod touch. E-books goes from being a novelty to something viable. Just on screen size alone.

There will be apps that are more suited to an ipod device (for example "Ocarina"), and there will be apps that are more suited to an iPad device (say, a finger painting program), and then apps that take a complete feature set in laptop (I dunno, photoshop or something).

 

[numble]

Thats my point. The Ipad is just as limited and does the same thing with a larger screen. So am I dropping $600-$800 for a bigger screen if I already have an Iphone?

It's $500. I personally use a needed iPhone app that would be perfect on an iPad (a Chinese dictionary/reader that translates characters using 8 licensed dictionaries, if you draw the character out, input it via keyboard, or mouse/finger over characters in the reader), and the software developer's forum is buzzing with people excited for it to be on the iPad. There is no desktop application that offers the same functionality, unless you get handwriting recognition hardware, and even then the best software out there only runs with 1 of those dictionaries.

For a lot of others with their own favorite niche apps, it's probably the same for them. "There's an app for that."

Edit: They also try to get around the multi-task issue by putting in its own proprietary server software so you can transfer files from your computer easily, and have a modified version of Safari inside where you can read Chinese webpages with pop-up translations, which is neat but sucks on a small screen iPhone (think of Chinese characters as taking up only 1-2 Roman letters, so trying to poke at them on a small screen is annoying and people currently have to resort to zooming or using arrow keys).

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

It's $500. I personally use a needed iPhone app that would be perfect on an iPad (a Chinese dictionary/reader that translates characters using 8 licensed dictionaries, if you draw the character out or click over characters in the reader), and the software developer's forum is buzzing with people excited for it to be on the iPad. There is no desktop application that offers the same functionality, unless you get handwriting recognition hardware, and even then the best software out there only runs with 1 of those dictionaries.

For a lot of others with their own favorite niche apps, it's probably the same for them. "There's an app for that."

Custom iPad apps are going to be collective "killer app." I think a lot of people just don't have the imagination to see it beyond imagining current iPhone apps blown up. It'll be interesting to see reactions once this thing comes out and sophisticated apps start appearing for it.

iPad will probably end up being the best Facebook and Twitter app hardware on the planet.

 

[mrklaw]

why do people buy 17" MBPs (or 15" ones for that matter)? They're just bigger versions of the 13" MBP. Apple should cancel them and just sell the base model.

I don't understand how some people can't make the connection between a larger screen offering more opportunities. A 'larger ipod' isn't just 'a larger ipod' it can be so much more.

 

[mrkgoo]

why do people buy 17" MBPs (or 15" ones for that matter)? They're just bigger versions of the 13" MBP. Apple should cancel them and just sell the base model.

I don't understand how some people can't make the connection between a larger screen offering more opportunities. A 'larger ipod' isn't just 'a larger ipod' it can be so much more.

I refrained from making that argument, because the actual functionality you get from going from, say 13" to 15" doesn't cross a critical functionality barrier like going from 3.5" to 10" does. For 13-17, you general just get better multitasking (ha!), and things just look nicer. People are translating that experience to the iPad, then subtracting multitasking = just nicer.

But 3.5" -> 10" isn't 'just nicer'.

 

[Jasoco]

During the keynote they said "virtually most iPhone apps" will work on the iPad. So, what apps won't? (Aside from the stock ones Apple didn't put on themselves.)

 

[mrkgoo]

Seems like someones guess regarding Apple putting out the $1,000 controlled leak was correct.

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/29/tablet-manufacturers-reevaluating-pricing-options-in-light-of-ipad-announcement/

DigiTimes reports that several Asian notebook manufacturers were taken by surprise by the unexpectedly low entry-level $499 price point for Apple's iPad, forcing them to reconsider how they will price upcoming tablet models.

The vendors originally planned to offer prices pegged at 20-30% lower than the Apple iPad, while they generally expected the device to cost as much as US$1,000. The US$499 entry-level price has caught vendors by surprise and means they will now need to adjust their price scales even lower to attract consumers, the sources pointed out.
The report notes that manufacturers are reluctant to undercut the iPad price and start a pricing war for fear of eliminating profit margins even before the industry can really take hold. The fears seem justified in light of plunging netbook prices, which have reduced profits in that segment to razor-thin margins even as unit sales have exploded.

Reports as long as ago as last August claimed that tablet manufacturers were holding off on new designs for their products until they could see what Apple's contribution to the market would be.

This is genius. I admit the iPad isn't amazingly mind-blowing with hundreds of new patents - and that's the exact reason it will excel Although it does have lots of patented tech - tech patented when the iPhone came out). Where everyone has been chasing what Apple was 'supposed' to do, Apple releases a humble tablet at a good price, that is focused on simplicity and is real.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Thats my point. The Ipad is just as limited and does the same thing with a larger screen. So am I dropping $600-$800 for a bigger screen if I already have an Iphone?

Shocking News: The iPad wasn't made for just one person. You may not need or want it but others will. Also, as others have said its $499 to start. Not everyone will go for the 3G model.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

During the keynote they said "virtually most iPhone apps" will work on the iPad. So, what apps won't? (Aside from the stock ones Apple didn't put on themselves.)

Anything that needs a camera.

 

[krypt0nian]

29 pages later and we're still arguing if anyone will buy this?

C'mon now.

 

[mrkgoo]

During the keynote they said "virtually most iPhone apps" will work on the iPad. So, what apps won't? (Aside from the stock ones Apple didn't put on themselves.)

Apps that require phone functionality. Camera apps. GPS apps on the non-GPS model. You know, the stuff that the iPad simply doesn't have hardware for.

 

[Future]

why do people buy 17" MBPs (or 15" ones for that matter)? They're just bigger versions of the 13" MBP. Apple should cancel them and just sell the base model.

I don't understand how some people can't make the connection between a larger screen offering more opportunities. A 'larger ipod' isn't just 'a larger ipod' it can be so much more.

They really need to show some more killer apps that show this. I think thats whats causing the negativity. With the iPhone we saw apps we couldnt do elsewhere on the go, giving it immediate appeal. With the iPad we see a netbook sized device that also does these things, but no real immediate advantage to the bigger screen. Blown up iPhone apps arent impressive, and the apple updates to the base apps werent all that great. Internet looked better, but that was weakened by the fact it still cant do flash and render a page as good as a netbook.

I'm sure down the line when more iPad designed apps come out, people will get more positive

 

[Schlep]

But 3.5" -> 10" isn't 'just nicer'.

Also the virtual keyboard taking up half the screen is completely different on 3.5" than it is on 9.7".

 

[Tobor]

Admit it, you didn't know that Marvel had a full-fledged digital subscription service rather than just a "store." But that's all they have in iPhone land.

This is the problem with a walled garden approach.

You need to come out of your garden, sir.

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Yes, I knew very well what it was, I just typed store. Don't be so damn literal. It's a shitty [B]service[/B], and they need to move to a [B]store[/B] model, where every new issue is available on release. Until they do, and they offer it on devices built for the experience instead of desktop/laptop only, it's not even closed to "full-fledged". Better?

I'd love to discuss the actual issue instead of you trying to harass me with semantics. Let me know when you're up for it.

 

[Shogmaster]

29 pages later and we're still arguing if anyone will buy this?

C'mon now.

I'll tell you one thing. It's the hardest I've seen MacGaf come out to defend a product! Yowza! Something you guys share with the Republican party: Everyone's on point from the same script! It's mesmerizing to watch... :lol

This is not trolling BTW. Just admiration!

 

[Solid Moustache]

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/29...ricing-options-in-light-of-ipad-announcement/

:lol Wow, only apple makes other companies plan and even make products based on simply rumors just to compete. Awesome.

 

[mrkgoo]

I'll tell you one thing. It's the hardest I've seen MacGaf come out to defend a product! Yowza! One thing you guys share with the Republican party: Everyone's on point from the same script! It's mesmerizing to watch... :lol

Well, the harder people need to criticise, I guess the harder I have to work

To be fair, if you take out my inane ramblings, you'd probably have a more realistic thread.

 

[SnakeXs]

During the keynote they said "virtually most iPhone apps" will work on the iPad. So, what apps won't? (Aside from the stock ones Apple didn't put on themselves.)

I'd wager things that use the camera, or digital compass (does it have a digital compass?).

 

[Tobor]

I'll tell you one thing. It's the hardest I've seen MacGaf come out to defend a product! Yowza! One thing you guys share with the Republican party: Everyone's on point from the same script! It's mesmerizing to watch... :lol

And it's the hardest I've seen Apple-hating GAF try to demolish an interesting product they were never going to buy in the first place. It's polarizing, I think we can all agree with that.

 

[XMonkey]

:lol Wow, only apple makes other companies plan and even make products based on simply rumors just to compete. Awesome.

Eh, I'd argue this happens in the gaming console business all the time with a new round of consoles.

And it's the hardest I've seen Apple-hating GAF try to demolish an interesting product. It's polarizing, I think we can all agree with that.

Demolish? come on now.

 

[mrkgoo]

I'd wager things that use the camera, or digital compass (does it have a digital compass?).

Yes it does. I wonder how much use a compass can be without a GPS as well. I supposed people have been using the for years without GPS

I don't have a 3Gs, so how useful is the compass outside of orienteering apps? The GPS is used for a few other random stuff.

 

[Shogmaster]

Well, the harder people need to criticise, I guess the harder I have to work

To be fair, if you take out my inane ramblings, you'd probably have a more realistic thread.

And it's the hardest I've seen Apple-hating GAF try to demolish an interesting product. It's polarizing, I think we can all agree with that.

No need to apologize or get defensive. I've enjoyed the holy bejesus out of these iPad threads thanks to you guys. No complaints from me!

 

[D4Danger]

:lol Wow, only apple makes other companies plan and even make products based on simply rumors just to compete. Awesome.

"according to industry sources."

that's not a source. This story looks like it's been pulled out of his ass (the original story, not the reposting by macrumours)

 

[VGChampion]

Anyway, who here has an iphone, macbook, pc and still plans to buy this?

I do. Well, I did have an iPhone but I traded it in for a regular phone as I didn't have the money for the data service for awhile and just became lazy with reactivating. I see this being a great inbetween for my iMac and Macbook. I use my Macbook when I'm away but not nearly as much because it still isn't as portable as I'd like it to be. This thing will work perfectly for my needs. I'm going to wait a little bit to make sure there's nothing wrong with them when they release but I can see within the first month or two of picking one up.

 

[Vennt]

Keep the topic of debate on the product itself.

Anymore Apple fanboy Vs Apple hater shit from this point on will lead to a shitcanning, period.

Now excuse me whilst I go play some MAG, when I come back don't make me have a forum clearout, because you know I will if I have to.

 

[blu]

Thats my point. The Ipad is just as limited and does the same thing with a larger screen. So am I dropping $600-$800 for a bigger screen if I already have an Iphone?

ITT gaf learns that quantitative accumulations may bring to qualitative shifts ; )

web browsing on the iphone: neat, usable on the go, sometimes even stationary.
same on the ipad: arguably the best possible browser experience across the whole personal computing industry *cue in flash outrage from the back rows*

productivity on the iphone: little experimental things here and there.
same on the ipad: iwork, to boot.

what changed in the hw between those two? - the screen and the processing power grew up a bit.

 

[mrkgoo]

No need to apologize or get defensive. I've enjoyed the holy bejesus out of these iPad threads thanks to you guys. No complaints from me!

I'm not apologising or being defensive (in this case), just saying "hi there!", really.

 

[SnakeXs]

Yes it does. I wonder how much use a compass can be without a GPS as well. I supposed people have been using the for years without GPS

I don't have a 3Gs, so how useful is the compass outside of orienteering apps? The GPS is used for a few other random stuff.

Outside of orientation all I've really seen it used for is augmented reality apps, which albeit not super useful yet, are pretty badass.

 

[Seraphis Cain]

Well, at least we can see what Pee Wee Herman thinks of the iPad...

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f7a03edbd7/pee-wee-gets-an-ipad

:lol :lol

 

[mrkgoo]

Outside of orientation all I've really seen it used for is augmented reality apps, which albeit not super useful yet, are pretty badass.

I guess it's just a compass. (NO I didn't expect anything else. YES I'm probably stretching).

 

[Ferrio]

Well, at least we can see what Pee Wee Herman thinks of the iPad...

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f7a03edbd7/pee-wee-gets-an-ipad

:lol :lol

Well I'll give it to Pee Wee, my Iphone is too small to be used that way.

 

[Jasoco]

Apps that require phone functionality. Camera apps. GPS apps on the non-GPS model. You know, the stuff that the iPad simply doesn't have hardware for.

Ah, of course. It was so simple. Hopefully the camera is coming though. I want Photo Booth and Video iChat. Though I want one in the iPod touch too and we still don't have that so...

 

[Keylime]

Ah, of course. It was so simple. Hopefully the camera is coming though. I want Photo Booth and Video iChat. Though I want one in the iPod touch too and we still don't have that so...

A front facing camera for video conferencing would be boss...but of course it's the same dilemma as the iPhone...you'd essentially need 2 cameras, one in front and one in back, so you could take pictures normally as well as video conference (taking pictures with the screen facing away from you would be stupid).

I don't think the iPad needs a camera for taking pictures.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Well, at least we can see what Pee Wee Herman thinks of the iPad...

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f7a03edbd7/pee-wee-gets-an-ipad

:lol :lol

How about really really old?

 

[giga]

The Notion Ink guys are apparently just a small startup in India. The 8 guys behind it: http://www.notionink.com/Home/about-us

 

[XMonkey]

A front facing camera for video conferencing would be boss...but of course it's the same dilemma as the iPhone...you'd essentially need 2 cameras, one in front and one in back, so you could take pictures normally as well as video conference (taking pictures with the screen facing away from you would be stupid).

I don't think the iPad needs a camera for taking pictures.

I don't see a need to have 2 cameras. All it needs is one in the front for video chats. A second might be nice, but it's still a bit awkward to use a big tablet like this to take photos. I can see it coming in handy for some applications, though.