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Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
the lack of a camera is indeed a strange omission, especially considering the potential for some kind of video conferencing, let alone stuff like taking pix for facebook etc. no doubt coming in the second revision :lolBertramCooper said:
i think someone posted a USB adaptor earlier for connecting to digicams/SD cards etc. shame it's a separate purchase, but at least the option is there.
favouriteflavour
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BrandNew said:
Does Itunes recognise divX ect?
WickedAngel
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Windu said:
I'm fairly sure that their estimates are usually conservative.
BertramCooper said:
I think creating a shift to a self contained, easy to use internet/media device is a definite step, it's just a seeming downgrade to geeks.
Beyond that I say again, the power of the App Store will definitely do more for this thing than people remember. iPhone Apps are great, wonderful little tools that allow you to do x y and z, but this has a whole different league of possibilities. What was that fake video a while ago with the furniture? There's nothing stopping that and things like it from happening, and I can't not mentioned the NY Times thing again (which was only made in 3 weeks).
It's a media engagement device that cuts out the fat. It's not for everyone, it won't replace everyone's laptop or desktop, but creating/forging a new market (while taking some from other markets) is it's own advancement, I'd say.
I also have to bring up the fact that less than 12 hours ago people were pretty much ok with a 1,000 dollar price tag. You can get it for half that. That's not a small deal.
WickedAngel said:
Nah, I just drink the Apple Kool-aid, as you say. It affects you.
About feature-shopping - Apple say they are creating a new category. You can only feature shop when it's within a same category, really. No-one compares a smartphone to a laptop (as an extreme example). So what are you going to compare the tablet to? That said, the other tablets out there are probably more powered too
- I guess you kind of have to compare this to other big iPhones out there.BertramCooper said:
yeah, I would've liked a camera. Guess it'll eventually come in future iterations, no? And USB ports are all well and dandy, but APple is Apple - they consider their mobile device extensibility via the dock port (they never add USB ports for additional storage). A lot of other connectivity is possible via wireless. Ok, I know I'm just defending it blindly here, but to me they're not that big a deal. A front-facing camera only has one use -video conferencing (I would've liked that , though, your'e right, it's obvious), and a camera camera on the back is kind of awkward (what're you going to do? carry your iPad around with you in those cases you don't have a phone?). Again, early device, it's missing some stuff. Those things don't bug me enough.
layzie1989
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I'll say it again: I can't wait to see this thing jailbroken 
:lol :lol
AND, that mlb app looks sick...i can't wait to see an nba app
:lol :lol AND, that mlb app looks sick...i can't wait to see an nba app
favouriteflavour
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mrkgoo said:Nah, I just drink the Apple Kool-aid, as you say. It affects you.
About feature-shopping - Apple say they are creating a new category. You can only feature shop when it's within a same category, really. No-one compares a smartphone to a laptop (as an extreme example). So what are you going to compare the tablet to? That said, the other tablets out there are probably more powered too
yeah, I would've liked a camera. Guess it'll eventually come in future iterations, no? And USB ports are all well and dandy, but APple is Apple - they consider their mobile device extensibility via the dock port (they never add USB ports for additional storage). A lot of other connectivity is possible via wireless. Ok, I know I'm just defending it blindly here, but to me they're not that big a deal. A front-facing camera only has one use -video conferencing (I would've liked that , though, your'e right, it's obvious), and a camera camera on the back is kind of awkward (what're you going to do? carry your iPad around with you in those cases you don't have a phone?). Again, early device, it's missing some stuff. Those things don't bug me enough.
Why don't these things bug you? Its clear apple holds back on alot of obvious things for its yearly upgrade cycle. You should be furious.
Flying_Phoenix
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The only things I'm pist about is the iPhone like OS (obviously understandable, but still), lack of Video Out, and no multitasking. Add those things and this thing could have been a day one product for me.
BertramCooper
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IMO, they might as well toss the adapter in the package and up the price $30. I can't imagine using this thing without any sort of USB. These days, devices that don't even need USB ports have them. For this to not include a single USB port is pretty inexcusable.julls said:
And I'm sure this will all be fixed for the second generation iPad, but it's hard to believe that they couldn't include them on the first go-round.
Maxwell House said:
I'd consider myself a power user of such things, and until I started streaming Last.fm radio from my iPhone 3GS, I rarely broke 250MB/month using the 3G network. I think it's reasonable to assume that would be enough.
My hope is that if you go over any given month you're gracefully transitioned to "unlimited" mode and you're not charged by the KB.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
just another money spinner i guess...BertramCooper said:
Was at work all day, so I'll add my two cents now.
For the record, I am the biggest apple fanboy around. I admit it, I've posted about it on gaf before, etc. I was fully prepared to buy the apple tablet, regardless of features, yet after today's presentation, I'm not quite sure what the point of the device is. It's a big iphone - no more, no less - and that leaves it in no man's land. There are just so few situations where it would be useful - where a laptop isn't around and my iphone isn't enough. Sure, as an ereader, it's nice, and on an airplane, the video would be nice. But otherwise...
What i really wanted was multitasking (PLZ) and the ability to use a stylus to take notes (a dream, I know). I'm sure in a year or two it'll be better and more distinct, and the price point is pretty nice...
Ugh, I'm just disappointed. It's so basic. Oh, and the name is stupid.
For the record, I am the biggest apple fanboy around. I admit it, I've posted about it on gaf before, etc. I was fully prepared to buy the apple tablet, regardless of features, yet after today's presentation, I'm not quite sure what the point of the device is. It's a big iphone - no more, no less - and that leaves it in no man's land. There are just so few situations where it would be useful - where a laptop isn't around and my iphone isn't enough. Sure, as an ereader, it's nice, and on an airplane, the video would be nice. But otherwise...
What i really wanted was multitasking (PLZ) and the ability to use a stylus to take notes (a dream, I know). I'm sure in a year or two it'll be better and more distinct, and the price point is pretty nice...
Ugh, I'm just disappointed. It's so basic. Oh, and the name is stupid.
Buckethead
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There needs to be a QuickBooks app. Get on that.
Marty Chinn
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mrkgoo said:
Why not do something that's more like the Lenovo where it switches modes when you detach its screen? There's definitely ways you can get that functionality without having to have the need to buy two devices to get it.
Lord Error
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Another big problem, as I mentioned earlier in my edited post, is that this is an internet and media device that doesn't even let me do a voice or text chat over IM, while browsing the internet - that is pretty ridiculous for something made today, even Iphone lets me talk over the phone while looking something up on the web.SnakeXs said:
Maxwell House
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I think more people will change their tunes once they get hands on experience with this at an Apple store. It seems underwhelming just based on what i can do, specs, etc., but I get the feeling the wow factor is in actually playing with it in person.
DeathbyVolcano
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favouriteflavour said:
mmm I don't think so. Just convert them though
Vestal
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Add a USB port, throw away the Iphone OS and put in Mac OSX and I would consider buying it. Or just wait for a Linux hack =p
As it stands now, its just an oversized Iphone without the Telephony and camera.
Its hard to believe that they had the balls to not allow Multitasking.
Put it this way, like a writer for Tomshardware said, its basically a console, but atleast in the console you can chat with friends while playing a game or doing something.
As it stands now, its just an oversized Iphone without the Telephony and camera.
Its hard to believe that they had the balls to not allow Multitasking.
Put it this way, like a writer for Tomshardware said, its basically a console, but atleast in the console you can chat with friends while playing a game or doing something.
ThatObviousUser
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Standard netbook resolution nowadays is like 1130x600 or something crazy like that.
Yeah MLB has an Application on the Iphone as well. I think they were making one for Droid too.layzie1989 said:
MLB is really ahead of everybody in online streaming of their sport. I have subscribed to MLB.tv on the PC for the last 3 years and it gets better every year. Last year they expanded it to the Iphone/Itouch and now it looks like to the Ipad.
I'm not sure how far along the NBA is with this kinda of stuff though.
mrkgoo said:Nah, I just drink the Apple Kool-aid, as you say. It affects you.
About feature-shopping - Apple say they are creating a new category. You can only feature shop when it's within a same category, really. No-one compares a smartphone to a laptop (as an extreme example). So what are you going to compare the tablet to? That said, the other tablets out there are probably more powered too
yeah, I would've liked a camera. Guess it'll eventually come in future iterations, no? And USB ports are all well and dandy, but APple is Apple - they consider their mobile device extensibility via the dock port (they never add USB ports for additional storage). A lot of other connectivity is possible via wireless. Ok, I know I'm just defending it blindly here, but to me they're not that big a deal. A front-facing camera only has one use -video conferencing (I would've liked that , though, your'e right, it's obvious), and a camera camera on the back is kind of awkward (what're you going to do? carry your iPad around with you in those cases you don't have a phone?). Again, early device, it's missing some stuff. Those things don't bug me enough.
Apple isnt fooling anybody. This is their Netbook.
favouriteflavour said:
They bug me (not so much the USB one), but it doesn't bug me enough.
So I don't get to video conference the odd occasion I do so. Not a big deal to me. Maybe if I HAD to video conference everyday, but then I guess I always have my laptop.
I suppose the main reason is I just don't have that much nerd rage
(or I have a particular sensitivity to Steve's reality distortion field - take you pick).WickedAngel
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mrkgoo said:Nah, I just drink the Apple Kool-aid, as you say. It affects you.
About feature-shopping - Apple say they are creating a new category. You can only feature shop when it's within a same category, really.
It's nice to say things. Unfortunately, saying something doesn't make it true; this isn't a new category.
whatsinaname
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MThanded said:
@MTHanded - I noticed that you seem to really really want a device with support for pdf annotations.
I was looking for something similar for a friend but decided to wait for the iPad announcement to recommend something.
One alternative for you could be this
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002UAR8SK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mPiLn_CP4U
Synth_floyd
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I won't buy one but I really hope it succeeds. The technology is really cool and has tons of potential and I can't wait to see what they come up with for ipad 2.0 and 3.0. Unfortunately even Apple has no idea what to do with a tablet computer but if they make it better and it sticks around for a while, eventually someone will.
SnakeXs said:You mean Keynote.ipa?
:lol, you got me. But this is the new world of abstract computing appliances! Users don't know the extension of their apps anymore! Keynote is now just Keynote, which is unfortunately the same word that describes today's Keynote address. (And therefore makes it hard to read about on Twitter)
Marty Chinn said:
I guess that's just not Apple's way of thinking. *shrugs*
Look, I think they just wanted to make a 'fun' third 'pillar' computing device. You can definitely get more functionality out of combining devices, but every design philosophy has their line,a nod I guess that would've crossed it for Apple.
They could've built in the stand to the iPad, but no, had to make it an add-on. I guess that kind of thing messes with the aesthetics/vision of the device itself.
Karma said:
I guess it doesn't fool you. Might fool the general public though. We'll see. Fools me, though.whatsinaname said:
I use AJI Reader Service for iPhone for PDF annotations. It's a joy to read books on it and I can sync my annotations back up to the source PDFs on my Mac with their software. I hate the oversimplified default PDF viewer, this one is much more robust:
http://www.ajidev.com/reader/support/arservice.html
rezuth said:
A ha, so it is. I've still got the old gigantic M-series style Apple BT keyboard. It's easily twice the length of the iPad itself. That's going to look nice and hilarious on my desk.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/ipad-has-optional-keyboard-dock/
WickedAngel said:
Maybe so. It's a new enough category to make me want one
For most here, they don't see a place for the iPad. For me, it has a place. Admittedly, it's as a cool gadget more than a necessity (I was hoping Apple would make it a necessity), but that's ok, the price is right (for me).
I think at the end of it all, everyone has their own opinions on what a device should or shouldn't be. :O *shock!*
Marty Chinn
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I can imagine a device that let you use a bluetooth keyboard when you're at home, or at the office, or at a hotel which would let you do documents, email and other stuff, but then you leave that behind and could use a finger touch interface or stylus interface when you're on the go.
Imagine them announcing text books and then showing on the kindle how you have to move a tiny joystick around to get to where you want and then the complexities of the UI that is involved with that, then they switch to the iPad and the person is jotting down notes on top of his eTextBook and drawing diagrams as a lecture is going. It would be a night and day difference in functionality and something that would show off the merits of a tablet. That's just one small avenue that they could have done but didn't.
I just wanted to state this again since I think it got lost at the end of a page of posts, but would you guys who are defending the iPad not see merit in something like I just listed above? How something like that would be a much bigger game changer and would be something that people could grasp as something their iPhone and their laptop doesn't offer them? That is the type of innovation I think people were expecting out of this and it's sad that Apple didn't "think different."
Imagine them announcing text books and then showing on the kindle how you have to move a tiny joystick around to get to where you want and then the complexities of the UI that is involved with that, then they switch to the iPad and the person is jotting down notes on top of his eTextBook and drawing diagrams as a lecture is going. It would be a night and day difference in functionality and something that would show off the merits of a tablet. That's just one small avenue that they could have done but didn't.
I just wanted to state this again since I think it got lost at the end of a page of posts, but would you guys who are defending the iPad not see merit in something like I just listed above? How something like that would be a much bigger game changer and would be something that people could grasp as something their iPhone and their laptop doesn't offer them? That is the type of innovation I think people were expecting out of this and it's sad that Apple didn't "think different."
I want to make sure I am not stupid. Is the aGPS only on the 3G version of the iPad? I was confused by how it said "Wi+Fi + 3G" after. Would be a bummer that you couldn't use something like the tom tom or another app that actually includes maps in it if you opted for the Wifi Only model.
Thanks for the clarification in advance.
Thanks for the clarification in advance.
yay for the less obnoxious thread title
my snap judgement on the device - the real value of the device will come once third parties customize their apps/content for the device's strengths (large screen + multi-touch = fun), but at the expense of segmenting the app-store between kick-ass tablet apps and limited iphone/ipod variants. i hated the NYT app before (slow as hell, crash-prone), but compared to the ipad version it makes me even angrier.
hardware-wise it disappointed, but that was expected. i'm shocked at how little they thought of actual data input on the device. the landscape keyboard, combined with the curved back and awfully reflective screen, makes the iphone keyboard godly by comparison. hell, the fact that you can pair a bluetooth keyboard to the thing is a concession that the software one is crap. also, the blandness of 3.2 makes me hope that they have more lined up for when 4.0 is released. oh look - a Snow Leopard inspired dock. huzzah! wait, it acts completely differently than on OSX? huzzah! no, wait...
my snap judgement on the device - the real value of the device will come once third parties customize their apps/content for the device's strengths (large screen + multi-touch = fun), but at the expense of segmenting the app-store between kick-ass tablet apps and limited iphone/ipod variants. i hated the NYT app before (slow as hell, crash-prone), but compared to the ipad version it makes me even angrier.
hardware-wise it disappointed, but that was expected. i'm shocked at how little they thought of actual data input on the device. the landscape keyboard, combined with the curved back and awfully reflective screen, makes the iphone keyboard godly by comparison. hell, the fact that you can pair a bluetooth keyboard to the thing is a concession that the software one is crap. also, the blandness of 3.2 makes me hope that they have more lined up for when 4.0 is released. oh look - a Snow Leopard inspired dock. huzzah! wait, it acts completely differently than on OSX? huzzah! no, wait...
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