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mrkgoo said:
Look I don't know what you have against people who at excited for this product, but where did anyone say that we should ignore criticisms or faults?
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You can't possibly have already forgotten about the absurd, off-hand dismissal of criticisms based on how the iPod was initially criticized (Nearly ten years ago in an entirely different market, at an entirely different price point, facing an entirely different set of competitors...I could go on).

This is a reveal thread. You can make an iPad circle-jerk thread if you want to but don't expect everyone in here to eat up the PR spin and celebrate the emergence of what seems to be the next Air.
 
On a purely anecdotal note, my entertainment industry classes today have all been a twitter about the iPad, professors included. These people, for the most part, don't really know much but think the iPad is fucking cool.
 
Wickerbasket said:
Both the iPhone and the iPod were aiming for a specific market. I'm just not sure there's a market for the iPad, who is it they're aiming for?

Maybe a few generations down the line it'll evolve into something worthwhile, but I dont understand who would buy it now.
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Everyone is the market. People don't need a desktop half the time, and an iPod is just a bit too small to make you want to use it when a desktop is nearby (although many still do).

As mentioned this is a home appliance, meant to replace the computer for most tasks. This is why all demos and ads show people sittin on the couch with this thing, and it it doesn't have any kind of 2 year contract. Jobs wants you to always have this sittin on your coffee table at home. Instantly turns on when you want to read, check mail, weather, etc

I'm still critical because I don't think they went far enough to justify purchase just yet, but I felt the same about the iPhone. iPhone didn't become a beast till the hardware improved and the app store got introduced. The tablet needs something like that to set it apart, and personally for me it was a damn stylus. I basically want to throw all my note pads away and use something like this to digitally write shit down to store, email, etc. A true next gen notebook

still, what's there is solid. I know what they are tryin to do and I think they definitely are on to something.
 
The iPhone was a success on day one. Stop pretending that it wasn't; it was well-received at the reveal and well-received on the first day of sales.
 
~Devil Trigger~ said:
How come no one ever compare the iPad to Apple TV? why always iPod/iPhone?

Apple is not perfect, they had relative failures before.

I still dunno if iPad will be a big success or not, but most of the crits against it are legit IMO.
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I don't really compare it to any of those, niche-wise anyway. It's more like the Newton. And that's the thing-- it's not how well or badly it fits that space, it's that I don't think there's a third space to fill. Not a mass-market one, anyway. No knocks on people for whom this is perfect, it's that I don't think there are enough people like that.

The reason I think the comparison to netbooks is apt is that those *have* taken off, and it's becuase there is a lot of utility to having a cheap, small computer. If this were that-- albiet, different-- it might inspire more confidence in me.
 
WickedAngel said:
The iPhone was a success on day one. Stop pretending that it wasn't; it was well-received at the reveal and well-received on the first day of sales.
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No it wasn't. It was barely anything until the 3G version came out with the lower price.
 
WickedAngel said:
You can't possibly have already forgotten about the absurd, off-hand dismissal of criticisms based on how the iPod was initially criticized (Nearly ten years ago in an entirely different market, at an entirely different price point, facing an entirely different set of competitors...I could go on).

This is a reveal thread. You can make an iPad circle-jerk thread if you want to but don't expect everyone in here to eat up the PR spin and celebrate the emergence of what seems to be the next Air.
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Excuse me?

Isn't that what the thread that was just posted all about?

Ok I'm failing to see your point here.

Since when have I expected people to eat up the pr spin? I'm totally the opposite. I don't think anyone has. I completely hear and uderstan the criticisms to the product. In fact I agree with a lot of them.

*puzzled*
 
WickedAngel said:
The iPhone was a success on day one. Stop pretending that it wasn't; it was well-received at the reveal and well-received on the first day of sales.
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The iPhone revolutionized a stagnant market, and opened it, and the mobile internet, to millions. Phones are something that everyone has.

This is creating a new market, not aimed, quite yet, at everyone.

I'm not seeing why you would expect this to match the iPhone, initial response wise.
 
SnakeXs said:
The iPhone revolutionized a stagnant market, and opened it, and the mobile internet, to millions. Phones are something that everyone has.

This is creating a new market, not aimed, quite yet, at everyone.

I'm not seeing why you would expect this to match the iPhone, initial response wise.
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I'm not the one who started the comparison.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
I continue to be baffled by people who think that the market is already overcrowded with computing devices. There's ALWAYS room for more. Mind you, I'm not saying I'm entirely won over by this device, but I just scratch my head at the "why would I need X when I already have Y?" suggestions.
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I agree. There is always room for more gadgets.
 
I still feel like this device is good, but honestly I hope it opens the gates to Droid and WebOS tablets.

I think WebOS is far more suited to this kind of device. Come on Palm, make it happen!!
 
Steve Youngblood said:
Anybody who's looking for yet another take on striking a balance between computer functionality and portability. Also, anyone who likes the iPhone/iPod Touch UI already.

I continue to be baffled by people who think that the market is already overcrowded with computing devices. There's ALWAYS room for more. Mind you, I'm not saying I'm entirely won over by this device, but I just scratch my head at the "why would I need X when I already have Y?" suggestions.
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Well, I just find it hard to understand why someone would want to pay double for something with half the functionality of other tablets on the market. It's a tablet PC with a mobile phone OS, and it doesn't even have multitasking.
 
BrandNew said:
Yeah, what the hell, the iPhone didn't really kick ass until it's first price drop, I thought.
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Sort of - it was selling pretty well before, but 3G spiked it significantly.

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I think I'll wait to see what the MS Courier, the HP Slate and Gen 2 of the iPad have to offer.

I was excited to see what Apple would do, but ultimately disappointed that it's really a giant iTouch.
And disappointed that the 3g is on ATT and that there are separate models for 3g and non 3g.
 
Flying_Phoenix said:
How in the world can these non-elderly and non-female people care about this product? There's no hdmi out, not that much hard-drive space, and the OS isn't fully open. Don't they care about downloading mods, plug-ins, and messing with the terminal? Don't they care about hooking up their iPad up to their home theater system to listen to clean clear 7.1 surround sound? Don't they care about running everyday applications such as Final Cut Pro, ToonBoom Animate, and Maya?

I don't believe it.
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This.
 
Apple sold 1 million iPhones in under a few months after it launched. It was sold out for weeks and eBay prices were well above retail value. Coming out of Holiday '07 they were doing like 1.7 million units per quarter. It wasn't successful as it is now, but you'd probably be hard pressed to name another phone that did as well out of the gates.
 
Wickerbasket said:
Well, I just find it hard to understand why someone would want to pay double for something with half the functionality of other tablets on the market.
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I find it hard to believe that there is a $250 tablet PC with twice as much functionality as the iPad.
 
gkrykewy said:
Now yesterday you were the guy predicting that the iPad would spell doom for the DS, right?
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Well obviously I was wrong considering the price. I wasn't hating on the DS I was just excited about the gaming possibilities of the "apple tablet" that wasn't announced yet when I said that. :D
 
the difference is that the ipod filled a void that people didn't know existed

the ipad on the other hand does not, it's design is uninspired and seems like the easy way out, and other then being a gorgeous e reader, serves virtually zero purpose in the vast majority of end users' lives. I do however think the niche market it appeals to is the same as the macbook air, and i see the air getting a swift death
 
Has this been posted?

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If you say "iPad" to Fujitsu PR director Masahiro Yamane, he doesn't think about Apple. No, the only thing that comes to mind is Fujitsu's Windows CE-based iPad, from 2002. And soon, lawyers. Lots of lawyers.

This isn't the first time Apple's appropriated a name that existed before, but this time the story might not play out like it has in the past. According to the NYT:

Fujitsu's application to trademark the iPad name stalled because of an earlier filing by Mag-Tech, an information technology security company based Seal Beach, California, for a handheld number-encrypting device.

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office listed Fujitsu's application as abandoned in early 2009, but the company revived its application in June.

The following month, Apple used a proxy to apply for an international trademark for the iPad. It has since filed a string of requests with the U.S. Patent Office for more time to oppose Fujitsu's application. Apple has until Feb. 28 to say whether it will oppose Fujitsu's claims to the iPad name.

This isn't quite as clear cut as Apple marching in and snatching a from someone, so instead of just paying Fujitsu off, there's a good chance Apple will actually fight this. [NYT via DigitalDaily]
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Flying_Phoenix said:
How in the world can these non-elderly and non-female people care about this product? There's no hdmi out, not that much hard-drive space, and the OS isn't fully open. Don't they care about downloading mods, plug-ins, and messing with the terminal? Don't they care about hooking up their iPad up to their home theater system to listen to clean clear 7.1 surround sound? Don't they care about running everyday applications such as Final Cut Pro, ToonBoom Animate, and Maya?

I don't believe it.
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Well said! :lol
 
Flying_Phoenix said:
Was thinking of posting this.

Honestly Apple's successes lie on the interface and intuitiveness of their devices. This is something people still don't get.

It reminds me of when people question Nintendo's successes which is usually caused by their first party software.

Having a "full blown OS", "more power", "OLED", and "Wacom capabilities" is shit that nobody in the general public cares about. The most important things to the general public is how much a product appeals to them and how much they enjoy it. And the look (interface) and feel (intuitiveness) of the device are key for that. And Apple knows this.

There were touch screen smart phones that, on paper, were superior to the iPhone in every way prior to its release. There were MP3 players with much more space and better sound quality than the iPod before its release. Yet two products stood above all of the others in their competitive field for the same two reasons why the iPad will most likely stand alone in its own.

EDIT - And again as said before both the iPod and iPhone weren't what they were now when they first launched they took time to build up. Wait a year or two when Apple adds in multitasking, further modifies the software, puts on an anti-glare screen, adds a webcam, and drops the price this thing will (most likely) follow the course built on by their previous successful efforts.
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Whoa, let's not immediately dismiss stuff like Wacom capabilities. Just because the public doesn't know about it or doesn't know they want it yet doesn't mean they don't want it. It's often that until they see it, hear about it, or even try it out that realize they want it. In fact, I dare say Wacom capabilities with Apple's touch of interaction would go a long way given that the most natural input to these common consumers that all you defenders are pointing out is the ability to write with a pen. It is by far more intuitive to do than using a virtual keyboard. There's just so many things that Apple could have done had they included a stylus. Note taking, writing e-mails by hand that transcribed to text, etc. A whole world of possibilities that would have made computers more intuitive and useful that we'll still have to wait for.
 
border said:
I find it hard to believe that there is a $250 tablet PC with twice as much functionality as the iPad.
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Didn't you hear? Flash is half of everything people do on computers.
 
jts said:
I think it's down to the software.

I have an HP tablet too (tx1000), but it's not because of that that i'm not interested in the iPad. It's because I have an iPhone.
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Yeesh! TX1000 owner, eh? No wonder you're down on TPCs. Next time, you should do more research before plopping your money down. That thing's got the worst of all worlds: AMD Turion heating the crap out of the 12" form factor and crappy resistive digitizer with 0 palm rejection. Hinged LCD does not a Tablet PC make.
 
I was really hoping for more of a multi-touch snow leopard rather than a large iphone OS. Why not finder app at least?

I'll have to wait to see the quality of the apps that come out (not interested in jailbreaking it either)
 
Apple really needs to pursue developers and get them to make apps specifically for the iPad.

Everyone seems to love the polish and feature rich NYTimes app. I can see people getting more and more excited over the iPad as we get closer to launch.

Also, just from talking to people kind of in general about this, there seems to be a pretty good buzz going. Most of the negative stuff I'm seeing is coming from tech enthusiasts online.
 
GodfatherX said:
the ipad on the other hand does not, it's design is uninspired and seems like the easy way out, and other then being a gorgeous e reader, serves virtually zero purpose in the vast majority of end users' lives.
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Zero purpose? Really? It does most of what people expect from basic computing (as does the iPhone/iPod Touch), except facilitates a better experience due to the bigger screen and increased processing power at the sacrifice of being able to put it in my pocket.

That's the gap it's trying to fill. "I love my iPhone's streamlined experience for on-the-go computing needs, but I just want something a little bit more without having to carry around something like a netbook/laptop, which are just a little too clunky to carry with me all the time, or comfortably use lounging around the house." That's it. It's just yet another device trying to carve yet another niche in the seemingly infinite "computer-like" gadget market.
 
Marty Chinn said:
There's just so many things that Apple could have done had they included a stylus. Note taking, writing e-mails by hand that transcribed to text, etc. A whole world of possibilities that would have made computers more intuitive and useful that we'll still have to wait for.
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I want a device that does this. I'm not hating on the iPad because I want that too. Is there a device under 1k that is real solid at this or is this a wait and see type thing?

The absolute killer app for me would be software that translates my scribbles into visio diagrams. That would be absolutely fantastic for me.
 
D4Danger said:
The iPhone was a game changer. It rocked the mobile industry. From the first second it was shown everyone could see it's potential. Yes, some things were missing but people got it and they knew, in time, that stuff would come.
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Bwahahahahahahaha!

  • "I am pretty skeptical. I don’t think [iPhone] will meet the fantastic predictions I have been reading. For starters, while Apple basically established the market for portable music players, the phone market is already established, with a number of major brands. Can Apple remake the phone market in its image? Success is far from guaranteed." - Jack Gold, founder and principal analyst at J. Gold Associates, January 11, 2007

  • "iPhone which doesn't look, I mean to me, I'm looking at this thing and I think it's kind of trending against, you know, what's really going, what people are really liking on, in these phones nowadays, which are those little keypads. I mean, the Blackjack from Samsung, the Blackberry, obviously, you know kind of pushes this thing, the Palm, all these... And I guess some of these stocks went down on the Apple announcement, thinking that Apple could do no wrong, but I think Apple can do wrong and I think this is it." - John C. Dvorak, January 13, 2007

  • "The iPhone is nothing more than a luxury bauble that will appeal to a few gadget freaks. In terms of its impact on the industry, the iPhone is less relevant... Apple is unlikely to make much of an impact on this market... Apple will sell a few to its fans, but the iPhone won't make a long-term mark on the industry." - Matthew Lynn, Bloomberg, January 15, 2007

  • "[Apple's iPhone] is the most expensive phone in the world and it doesn't appeal to business customers because it doesn't have a keyboard which makes it not a very good email machine... So, I, I kinda look at that and I say, well, I like our strategy. I like it a lot." - Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO, January 17, 2007

  • "The iPhone's willful disregard of the global handset market will come back to haunt Apple." - Tero Kuittinen, RealMoney.com, January 18, 2007

  • "I can’t believe the hype being given to iPhone... I just have to wonder who will want one of these things (other than the religious faithful)... So please mark this post and come back in two years to see the results of my prediction: I predict they will not sell anywhere near the 10M Jobs predicts for 2008." - Richard Sprague, Microsoft Senior Marketing Director, January 18, 2007

  • "Consumers are not used to paying another couple hundred bucks more just because Apple makes a cool product. Some fans will buy [iPhone], but for the rest of us it's a hard pill to swallow just to have the coolest thing." - Neil Strother, NPD Group analyst, January 22, 2007

  • "There's an old saying -- stick to your knitting -- and Apple is not a mobile phone manufacturer, that's not their knitting... I think people overreacted to it -- there was not a lot of tremendously new stuff if you think about it." - Greg Winn, Telstra's operations chief, February 15, 2007

  • "I'm more convinced than ever that, after an initial frenzy of publicity and sales to early adopters, iPhone sales will be unspectacular... iPhone may well become Apple's next Newton." - David Haskin, Computerworld, February 26, 2007


  • "Even if [the iPhone] is opened up to third parties, it is difficult to see how the installed base of iPhones can reach the level where it becomes a truly attractive service platform for operator and developer investment." - Tony Cripps, Ovum Service Manager for Mobile User Experience, March 14, 2007

  • "Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone... What Apple risks here is its reputation as a hot company that can do no wrong. If it's smart it will call the iPhone a 'reference design' and pass it to some suckers to build with someone else's marketing budget. Then it can wash its hands of any marketplace failures... Otherwise I'd advise people to cover their eyes. You are not going to like what you'll see." - John C. Dvorak, March 28, 2007

  • "The iPhone is going to be nothing more than a temporary novelty that will eventually wear off." - Gundeep Hora, CoolTechZone Editor-in-Chief, April 02, 2007

  • Motorola's then-Chairman and then-CEO Ed Zander said his company was ready for competition from Apple's iPhone, due out the following month. "How do you deal with that?" Zander was asked at the Software 2007 conference. Zander quickly retorted, "How do they deal with us?" - Ed Zander, May 10, 2007

  • "What does the iPhone offer that other cell phones do not already offer, or will offer soon? The answer is not very much... Apple’s stated goal of selling 10 million iPhones by the end of 2008 seems ambitious." - Laura Goldman, LSG Capital, May 21, 2007

  • "[Apple should sell 7.9 million iPhones in 2008]... Apple's goal of selling 10 million iPhones this year is optimistic." - Toni Sacconaghi, Bernstein Research analyst, February 22, 2008

  • "Microsoft, with Windows Mobile/ActiveSync, Nokia with Intellisync, and Motorola with Good Technology have all fared poorly in the enterprise. We have no reason to expect otherwise from Apple." - Peter Misek, Canaccord Adams analyst, March 07, 2008

  • "We are not at all worried. We think we've got the one mobile platform you'll use for the rest of your life. [Apple] are not going to catch up." - Scott Rockfeld, Microsoft Mobile Communications Group Product Manager, April 01, 2008

  • "[iPhone] just doesn't matter anymore. There are now alternatives to the iPhone, which has been introduced everywhere else in the world. It's no longer a novelty." - Eamon Hoey, Hoey and Associates, April 30, 2008
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
How much Windows software is multi-touch and tailored to a tablet interface?

I can see that fake Ikea app video on the iPad. I don't see it ever showing up on a Windows tablet.

Android will also benefit from its own application store and how it's used mostly on touchscreen devices.
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This is my biggest question mark over other tablets. How optimised for touch is windows 7? I don't consider a tablet form factor to automatically be better than a laptop - in some ways its compromised (lack of keyboard for example). The thing I have faith in with the iPad is that its the multitouch that will make it a great experience. Everything I know from the ipod touch will translate perfectly to a larger screen, and make browsing way, way easier and less fatiguing.

I still think its primary competition is netbooks as thats mostly secondary computer, light lifestyle tasks, browsing etc. And personally at $499 while slightly more than netbooks, its pretty well priced if it does what it should (i.e. do the netbook job a lot better than a netbook does)


Vennt said:
I'm really not interested in a Windows 7 based Tablet PC, I don't want another PC, I want the ease of use & speed of utility of an iPod Touch, in a bigger size, that's it, I have enough PC's in the house already.
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This, basically, is what I want.
 
Pristine_Condition said:
Bwahahahahahahaha!

  • "I am pretty skeptical. I don’t think [iPhone] will meet the fantastic predictions I have been reading. For starters, while Apple basically established the market for portable music players, the phone market is already established, with a number of major brands. Can Apple remake the phone market in its image? Success is far from guaranteed." - Jack Gold, founder and principal analyst at J. Gold Associates, January 11, 2007

  • "iPhone which doesn't look, I mean to me, I'm looking at this thing and I think it's kind of trending against, you know, what's really going, what people are really liking on, in these phones nowadays, which are those little keypads. I mean, the Blackjack from Samsung, the Blackberry, obviously, you know kind of pushes this thing, the Palm, all these... And I guess some of these stocks went down on the Apple announcement, thinking that Apple could do no wrong, but I think Apple can do wrong and I think this is it." - John C. Dvorak, January 13, 2007

  • "The iPhone is nothing more than a luxury bauble that will appeal to a few gadget freaks. In terms of its impact on the industry, the iPhone is less relevant... Apple is unlikely to make much of an impact on this market... Apple will sell a few to its fans, but the iPhone won't make a long-term mark on the industry." - Matthew Lynn, Bloomberg, January 15, 2007

  • "[Apple's iPhone] is the most expensive phone in the world and it doesn't appeal to business customers because it doesn't have a keyboard which makes it not a very good email machine... So, I, I kinda look at that and I say, well, I like our strategy. I like it a lot." - Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO, January 17, 2007

  • "The iPhone's willful disregard of the global handset market will come back to haunt Apple." - Tero Kuittinen, RealMoney.com, January 18, 2007

  • "I can’t believe the hype being given to iPhone... I just have to wonder who will want one of these things (other than the religious faithful)... So please mark this post and come back in two years to see the results of my prediction: I predict they will not sell anywhere near the 10M Jobs predicts for 2008." - Richard Sprague, Microsoft Senior Marketing Director, January 18, 2007

  • "Consumers are not used to paying another couple hundred bucks more just because Apple makes a cool product. Some fans will buy [iPhone], but for the rest of us it's a hard pill to swallow just to have the coolest thing." - Neil Strother, NPD Group analyst, January 22, 2007

  • "There's an old saying -- stick to your knitting -- and Apple is not a mobile phone manufacturer, that's not their knitting... I think people overreacted to it -- there was not a lot of tremendously new stuff if you think about it." - Greg Winn, Telstra's operations chief, February 15, 2007

  • "I'm more convinced than ever that, after an initial frenzy of publicity and sales to early adopters, iPhone sales will be unspectacular... iPhone may well become Apple's next Newton." - David Haskin, Computerworld, February 26, 2007


  • "Even if [the iPhone] is opened up to third parties, it is difficult to see how the installed base of iPhones can reach the level where it becomes a truly attractive service platform for operator and developer investment." - Tony Cripps, Ovum Service Manager for Mobile User Experience, March 14, 2007

  • "Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone... What Apple risks here is its reputation as a hot company that can do no wrong. If it's smart it will call the iPhone a 'reference design' and pass it to some suckers to build with someone else's marketing budget. Then it can wash its hands of any marketplace failures... Otherwise I'd advise people to cover their eyes. You are not going to like what you'll see." - John C. Dvorak, March 28, 2007

  • "The iPhone is going to be nothing more than a temporary novelty that will eventually wear off." - Gundeep Hora, CoolTechZone Editor-in-Chief, April 02, 2007

  • Motorola's then-Chairman and then-CEO Ed Zander said his company was ready for competition from Apple's iPhone, due out the following month. "How do you deal with that?" Zander was asked at the Software 2007 conference. Zander quickly retorted, "How do they deal with us?" - Ed Zander, May 10, 2007

  • "What does the iPhone offer that other cell phones do not already offer, or will offer soon? The answer is not very much... Apple’s stated goal of selling 10 million iPhones by the end of 2008 seems ambitious." - Laura Goldman, LSG Capital, May 21, 2007

  • "[Apple should sell 7.9 million iPhones in 2008]... Apple's goal of selling 10 million iPhones this year is optimistic." - Toni Sacconaghi, Bernstein Research analyst, February 22, 2008

  • "Microsoft, with Windows Mobile/ActiveSync, Nokia with Intellisync, and Motorola with Good Technology have all fared poorly in the enterprise. We have no reason to expect otherwise from Apple." - Peter Misek, Canaccord Adams analyst, March 07, 2008

  • "We are not at all worried. We think we've got the one mobile platform you'll use for the rest of your life. [Apple] are not going to catch up." - Scott Rockfeld, Microsoft Mobile Communications Group Product Manager, April 01, 2008

  • "[iPhone] just doesn't matter anymore. There are now alternatives to the iPhone, which has been introduced everywhere else in the world. It's no longer a novelty." - Eamon Hoey, Hoey and Associates, April 30, 2008
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Yea pretty much. A lot of these quotes were when the iphone was what 599?
It wasn't till a price drop + app store that the iphone really took off.

The quotes from MS people aren't really surprising though.
 
Will I be able to "write" on the iPad? If not, what other tablet is coming out which I can do this? I pretty much want to replace the paper notebook entirely.
 
Hmm, thinking about multitasking - even when I'm just browsing, I like my firefox plugins too much to switch fulltime to safari (its ok on ipod touch though). Just having growl popup email notifications, or echofon in the corner of the screen. Getting a little 'bong' when a new notification comes in isn't quite the same.

Does the iphone support pop up notes when you get a new email for instance?
 
Gary Whitta said:
Well said! :lol
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No, not really. My mom falls directly in that category he's referring to (PC Stupid) but even if she has to ask people who aren't PC Stupid to install things, she still completely understands the value of having an IM client open at the same time as a web browser and a spreadsheet. Further, the lack of a USB port means that the iPad is completely tethered to a desktop, which for most people still means a Windows PC and choppy iTunes.

A simple USB port could have allowed Apple to completely bypass a desktop if Granny wanted to transfer her iPhone photos to iPad; instead, now Granny has to either go back to the desktop or use one of the various solutions posted using email or whatnot, which I could have sworn was what was just described as too complex for Granny.

As it stands, the people that some posters are claiming to be terrified of desktops and options will still be forced to go back to those same desktops. The increased functionality (USB and multitask) being harped on about would actually allow for the ease of use and simplicity that people are claiming the opposite of.
 
Kruhex said:
Will I be able to "write" on the iPad? If not, what other tablet is coming out which I can do this? I pretty much want to replace the paper notebook entirely.
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As others have said, there are capacitive stylus' that will be able to interact with the screen. It's just a matter of software.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
Zero purpose? Really? It does most of what people expect from basic computing (as does the iPhone/iPod Touch), except facilitates a better experience due to the bigger screen and increased processing power at the sacrifice of being able to put it in my pocket.

That's the gap it's trying to fill. "I love my iPhone's streamlined experience for on-the-go computing needs, but I just want something a little bit more without having to carry around something like a netbook/laptop, which are just a little too clunky to carry with me all the time, or comfortably use lounging around the house." That's it. It's just yet another device trying to carve yet another niche in the seemingly infinite "computer-like" gadget market.
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except it has all the faults the iphone/touch get a pass for being handheld devices, this isn't an alternative to students or workers, or 90% of other end users that might get by with handhelds between trips to their laptops, because they still need a full featured os, this doesn't bridge the gap in any way
 
Marty Chinn said:
Whoa, let's not immediately dismiss stuff like Wacom capabilities. Just because the public doesn't know about it or doesn't know they want it yet doesn't mean they don't want it. It's often that until they see it, hear about it, or even try it out that realize they want it. In fact, I dare say Wacom capabilities with Apple's touch of interaction would go a long way given that the most natural input to these common consumers that all you defenders are pointing out is the ability to write with a pen. It is by far more intuitive to do than using a virtual keyboard. There's just so many things that Apple could have done had they included a stylus. Note taking, writing e-mails by hand that transcribed to text, etc. A whole world of possibilities that would have made computers more intuitive and useful that we'll still have to wait for.
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Actually, let's. :lol
 
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