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Apple's iPad 2 event | March 2

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Leona Lewis said:
I've used both, my HP Mini netbook for a lot longer (since early 2009). While the iPad is limited in terms of function compared to the average Windows 7-equipped netbook, it's just a lot less painful to use. Even when it was brand new, my HP tended to lag horribly during minimal multitasking. It got so bad that I had to make Youtube default video resolution to 360p.

Netbooks quickly solved their early problems regarding poor battery life and cramped keyboards. Looking at the new AMD chips, it seems the performance has gotten quite a bit better as well. But netbooks won't be better than the iPad for the average user until they can replicate its "instant-on," butter smooth feel.
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The netbook simply isn't an attractive product in general. People would rather get a pretty toy than another productivity machine that is simply a 'Lite' version of something they already have. I don't see much of a future for netbooks; I simply disagree with the reasoning behind the iPad's conquest of that market.

I found the iPad to be massively inconvenient for typing anything past a sentence or two. I had a number of performance issues as well.
 
numble said:
LOL, no happy stories of old folks discovering the Internet?
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There are a few, most of them are intelligent enough to not come back and give a dramatic telling. I assume the ones I listed have nothing better to do while the others are making use of their new productivity device.
 
Using a netbook (hp mini) I felt like Gulliver on his travels. What a terrible experience. Netbooks are a completely unfocused byproduct of a computer model not suited for the new mobile digital frontier.

By contrast the ipad is nothing short of a revolution, designed to meet the new and different ways we interact with computers. /hyperbole

To compare the two is impossibly silly.
 
What are the rumors regarding the specs for specifics of the iPad2? I want to see if I can bet money on what will be announced. How many versions can we expect?
 
Mockingbird said:
What are the rumors regarding the specs for specifics of the iPad2? I want to see if I can bet money on what will be announced. How many versions can we expect?
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^ old, but still funny

I was contemplating getting an iPad 2 but the lack of higher res turned me off a bit so I'm fine with waiting another year. Plus, my company may buy us tablets to test a new application we are writing.
 
iMat would be day one for me. Seriously, can you imagine how fun that would be in the living room? Also, on the subject of RAM. I would not be surprised if the iPhone 5 had 1GB of it, which would make me wonder again why the tablet has half the memory of a phone. All ifs and buts at te moment though
 
The hardware is sort of a formality at this point, we know everything(except storage and RAM). I'm really interested to see the software. iMovie should be awesome on the larger screen. And I want to see what else is in store for iOS 5. Maybe some NFC stuff as well?

I am excited about the rumored enhanced speakers though. I use my iPad as a kitchen TV all the time, and I need it to be louder.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
iMat would be day one for me. Seriously, can you imagine how fun that would be in the living room? Also, on the subject of RAM. I would not be surprised if the iPhone 5 had 1GB of it, which would make me wonder again why the tablet has half the memory of a phone. All ifs and buts at te moment though
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What is the use of the extra 512mb? What app uses that extra 256mb today? I'm really curious since the iPod Touch 4th Gen is just 256 mb and operation seemed similar.
 
numble said:
What is the use of the extra 512mb? What app uses that extra 256mb today? I'm really curious since the iPod Touch 4th Gen is just 256 mb and operation seemed similar.
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Browsers! That is all. Picture threads suck.
 
Husker86 said:
Browsers! That is all. Picture threads suck.
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I think be meant in respect to the iPhone 4. I'm really curious to see how 512MB handles the browsing experience. I haven't used an iPhone 4. What's it like? Renders pages okay?
 
I wonder how much will be original ipad's price be lowered and when?

Will be getting the ipad 2 and then deciding on 3 versus 4.
 
cjelly said:
Extra RAM is a moot point if iOS 5 has an improved Safari that can temporarily store stuff in flash memory.
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I hope they add tabbed browsing and flash (lol?).

The big reason I'm looking into Honeycomb tablet is the superior browsing experience that is closer to the desktop experience.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
I think be meant in respect to the iPhone 4. I'm really curious to see how 512MB handles the browsing experience. I haven't used an iPhone 4. What's it like? Renders pages okay?
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I think it does. But I don't know since I've turned off images on GAF browsing because I used to be on a network that only gave me 250 mb a month (and 1-2 mb gifs would suck it up) and now I'm on a network that only has EDGE/2G. So someone might have better info.

I think I've only heard of Infinity Blade using the extra RAM (don't have the game). Because iPod 3rd Gen, iPod 4th Gen, iPhone 3GS, and iPad all only have 256 mb RAM, I think developers haven't targeted for that extra RAM that's there, since they can aim for compatibility with more devices.
 
I know we know they've been settin' it up, but I just walked past as I went to pick up my GDC badge. Seriously you could throw a rock from the front door of GDC and hit this event. Stone's throw.

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Gettin' excited! Not only for iPad 2 and all that but if they give a preview of iOS 5.
 
I got one of these recently, expensive, but fucking amazing.

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Connects via Bluetooth or 3.5mm jack, charges over USB, tells you battery levels by speaking to you, has a microphone for using as a speakerphone/conference call device if paired with your phone.

It's loud as shit, tiny, and has excellent bass (it uses the battery as a subwoofer). One of the best things I've ever purchased.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004E10KI8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 
Here are the key features im hoping for:

-Cameras (This is a must)
-Thinner/lighter but same screen size (ideally i'd like a bigger screen)
-faster processor and more ram
-anti-glare screen
-higher resolution (doesn't have to be "retina display" but I would like a resolution bump)
-thunderbolt port for lighting fast syncing

Better/louder speakers would be great too
 
Anticitizen One said:
Here are the key features im hoping for:

-higher resolution (doesn't have to be "retina display" but I would like a resolution bump)
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Any resolution bump that isn't doubling the pixels like the iPhone 4 did would be a really, really bad idea.
 
badcrumble said:
Any resolution bump that isn't doubling the pixels like the iPhone 4 did would be a really, really bad idea.
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iOS's handling of resolution is as archaic as PalmOS.
 
tino said:
iOS's handling of resolution is as archaic as PalmOS.
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It's about getting consistency and the highest quality with the least amount of work. UIKit views, text, and vector content are all resolution independent--if that's what you're talking about. It could easily support varying scales, but it wouldn't look as good as 2x.
 
Baconbitz said:
Where's iWall?

On a serious note during this event are there talks about an update to the OS?
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We don't know for sure, but it's very very likely, imo. At the very least, there'll be talks about the updated MobileMe.
 
giga said:
It's about getting consistency and the highest quality with the least amount of work. UIKit views, text, and vector content are all resolution independent--if that's what you're talking about. It could easily support varying scales, but it wouldn't look as good as 2x.
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As a user, why should I care if Apple and developers want to put in "the least amount of work" :P. Ok, seriously now, isn't there some lossless resolution-independent graphics format that could be developed and used as a standard so, you know, developers don't have to worry about all that....
 
Charred Greyface said:
As a user, why should I care if Apple and developers want to put in "the least amount of work" :P. Ok, seriously now, isn't there some lossless resolution-independent graphics format that could be developed and used as a standard so, you know, developers don't have to worry about all that....
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I don't know, maybe you want the results of their products to actually look good?
zomgbbqftw said:
I don't know if this already has a thread (I searched and couldn't find one) but there is a lot of talk about Jonathan Ive leaving Apple to come back to the UK and chill in Somerset with his kids.

http://www.itproportal.com/2011/02/28/apple-top-designer-jony-ive-could-leave/

I can't make a thread about it, but if someone could it would be great, I don't want to shit up this thread...
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If Jobs and Ive both left Apple around the same time... that'd be bad.
 
apple would be foolish to not let him work from the UK. it's 20 fuckin 11 already, people are productive no matter the location.
 
I thought Johnny Ives would be a decent candidate to replace Jobs.
badcrumble said:
I don't know, maybe you want the results of their products to actually look good?
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Why won't the products look good, or even better, if Apple and developers make new images for an iPad with say a 1200x800 resolution? I mean, doesn't everyone prefer the iPhone apps updated with 'Retina display' graphics as opposed to the apps were developers let the software just double the image? If developers have to create new image assets anyway, why is it such a big deal? Oh yeah "the least amount of effort"...
 
Charred Greyface said:
As a user, why should I care if Apple and developers want to put in "the least amount of work" :P. Ok, seriously now, isn't there some lossless resolution-independent graphics format that could be developed and used as a standard so, you know, developers don't have to worry about all that....
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Why bother? Resolutions can only get so high before it doesn't matter. They'll pixel double the display next year, and again 3 years after that. At that point, it's a zero sum game.
 
Charred Greyface said:
As a user, why should I care if Apple and developers want to put in "the least amount of work" :P. Ok, seriously now, isn't there some lossless resolution-independent graphics format that could be developed and used as a standard so, you know, developers don't have to worry about all that....
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Sure, if your app is all based on vector based content (like PDF) and/or uses all system provided views--then it'll scale perfectly.

If you're talking about why all developers and designers don't use vector based resources over raster based ones, The Iconfactory had a good piece on this: http://iconfactory.com/home/permalink/1731
 
will probably buy on the strength of the increase in memory. but since that was my only complaint, I probably won't buy immediately. iOS has gotten much better at managing memory since the early OS versions.

it was only ever a real priority for web browsing anyway. Facetime...meh.
 
Tobor said:
Why bother? Resolutions can only get so high before it doesn't matter. They'll pixel double the display next year, and again 3 years after that. At that point, it's a zero sum game.
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It matters if Apple wants to support different sized screens. We've heard that Apple is testing smaller and bigger sizes of their products. It would certainly help Apple in their bid for a larger market share to support multiple sizes and form factors. Resolution Independence is a more elegant solution than pixel doubling.
 
badcrumble said:
If Jobs and Ive both left Apple around the same time... that'd be bad.
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Yup, I saw this on MacRumors the other day. With what's going on with Steve right now, I can't seriously believe the board would let Ive walk. That's crazy.
 
Charred Greyface said:
It matters if Apple wants to support different sized screens. We've heard that Apple is testing smaller and bigger sizes of their products. It would certainly help Apple in their bid for a larger market share to support multiple sizes and form factors. Resolution Independence is a more elegant solution than pixel doubling.
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If they bump the size of the iPhone, it will still be 960x640, and if they shrink the iPad, it will still be 1024x768. I'm not seeing the problem.

They control the hardware, so there will never be enough variations on screen size or resolution to justify what you're talking about. In fact, it looks like they're going to the pixel doubling strategy for Mac OS as well.

Google should be working on that, though.
 
hyp said:
apple would be foolish to not let him work from the UK. it's 20 fuckin 11 already, people are productive no matter the location.
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from interviews with the guy, it seems like he spends a lot of time actually working with materials and production processes in the lab with his team. I don't think that would be the same from England. plus even basic communication stuff is out of whack with the time difference.
 
Tobor said:
If they bump the size of the iPhone, it will still be 960x640, and if they shrink the iPad, it will still be 1024x768. I'm not seeing the problem.

They control the hardware, so there will never be enough variations on screen size or resolution to justify what you're talking about. In fact, it looks like they're going to the pixel doubling strategy for Mac OS as well.

Google should be working on that, though.
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Microsoft already offers resolution independence in Windows and, as Giga's link points out, Apple themselves were talking about it in '06. Oh well, I'm a pixel density whore but it's only one factor among many for making a good product.
 
true about the time difference, we have a hard time initiating meetings with our team in the UK. didn't know his job was so hands-on, if so then yes it'd be a problem not having access to materials on short notice.

not looking good for apple if true.
 
Tobor said:
If they bump the size of the iPhone, it will still be 960x640, and if they shrink the iPad, it will still be 1024x768. I'm not seeing the problem.

They control the hardware, so there will never be enough variations on screen size or resolution to justify what you're talking about. In fact, it looks like they're going to the pixel doubling strategy for Mac OS as well.

Google should be working on that, though.
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Working on what? Supporting technology as it becomes viable? Pretty sure that's their entire game plan for android....
 
Charred Greyface said:
Microsoft already offers resolution independence in Windows and, as Giga's link points out, Apple themselves were talking about it in '06. Oh well, I'm a pixel density whore but it's only one factor among many for making a good product.
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Then wait for the iPad with double the pixel density (or is it quadruple, since they're multiplying each dimension's resolution by 2?) six months later.
 
Copernicus said:
Working on what? Supporting technology as it becomes viable? Pretty sure that's their entire game plan for android....
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Resolution independence. You know, what we've been talking about.

@ charred, a lot's changed since '06. ;)

It's a big deal for Microsoft because they don't control the hardware either. The end result is the same. Apple is going to have displays with insane pixel density anyway.

badcrumble said:
Then wait for the iPad with double the pixel density (or is it quadruple, since they're multiplying each dimension's resolution by 2?) six months later.
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Exactly. Once the iPad res is that high, what does it matter?
 
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