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[rjc571]

PSV MH killer ~ 33k

Higher than I was expecting for ~1 week of sales

 

[A Human Becoming]

I assumed that includes digital.

NPD never includes digital as far as I know.

 

[gigantor21]

PSV MH killer ~ 33k

Well, shit. -_-

Game's a ton a fun though.

 

[goomba]

I think it really is. They're dropping YoY (even during the holiday) every single month except 1. Handhelds are pretty much all they've had the past 2-3 years. To have their old one being phased out while the new one is suffering major declines already is more worrisome than a console that has had no software released for it yet. 3DS has actual software and it's dropping.

Last month 3DS was the only hardware that went up (9%)

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

I just don't see HW fatigue as the explanation the huge drop in software sales. With all the existing 360 and PS3 in circulation, there should be a huge game buying consumer base. That they aren't buying the new releases tells me they don't see these new games as offering them any new experiences.

I'm not buying any more current gen games except GTA5. 7 years is too long to spend with one piece of hardware. GT6 on PS3 is a bad joke.

People who thought MS and Sony could push this gen into 2015 were grotesquely naive. No one is spending $300 on 8 year old hardware.

We have 3 next gen systems on the market. WiiU, 3DS, & Vita.

All 3 are failing in America right now. Next-gen is here and no one cares.

None of these systems offers a compelling new experiences to people who have been playing PS360 for 5+ years.

 

[Y2Kev]

Wow, so, MH does 100K and SoulSac does 33k so now SoulSac is 30% as big as the biggest franchise in Japan! GREAT JOB SONY!!!!!

 

[Duxxy3]

We have 3 next gen systems on the market. WiiU, 3DS, & Vita.

All 3 are failing in America right now. Next-gen is here and no one cares.

All 3 systems have their own issues.

Vita costs way too much (hardware, memory cards and software) and doesn't have a system seller.

3DS costs too much in the west (hardware and software) and there's still some confusion regarding the name.

Wii U is just a complete disaster, it's missing everything.

 

[Miles X]

Last month 3DS was the only hardware that went up (9%)

Which is seemingly an anomaly.

 

[SmokyDave]

Higher than I was expecting for ~1 week of sales

Of course, I forgot that. Factor in digital and it might not be all that gloomy for a title ill-suited to the west.

 

[Byakuya769]

3DS < 360

Quick! Someone show us how the 3ds is in a better position than the DS over the same time period.

 

[darkside31337]

PSV MH killer ~ 33k

For less than one week of sales for a game on the Vita thats honestly more than I would have expected.

Still sad to see though

 

[Kazerei]

PSV MH killer ~ 33k

but but but digital sales

 

[Megadragon15]

PSV MH killer ~ 33k

It looks like it was sacrificed without a whimper.

 

[shinra-bansho]

NPD never includes digital as far as I know.

Creamsugar sometimes does, and bundles.

Doesn't seem fantastic, but I don't know what people's expectations were.

 

[Dave Meltzer]

Higher than I was expecting for ~1 week of sales

The whole "1 week of sales" thing is bullshit no matter which game it's used as an excuse for. Games are very frontloaded.

 

[AniHawk]

Is 20MM optimistic for a console declining in its second full year on the market? What's it at now? I forgets.

I dunno if it's fair to say the 3ds is "declining" but healthy, normal consoles do not show declines like this. It's just really bad right now on the handheld front.

software prices are high, and so are hardware prices. nintendo went against their own handheld philosophy in creating the thing and it's hurting them right now. give it a lower price, get the pokemon fanbase on there, and it should do another 12m over the next 4 years or so. i don't think it's that tough of a goal. i am assuming that the 3ds has sold 8m in the us at this point. it could be 6m. i honestly can't remember.

 

[Baconsammy]

Last month 3DS was the only hardware that went up (9%)

That was the 1 month I mentioned. And then it dropped dramatically this month.

 

[allan-bh]

That's OK for Soul Sacrifice. It's on Vita.

 

[B.O.O.M]

That's actually not too bad for Soul Sacrifice..I expected worse. It was doing really well digitally too going by the charts for April

 

[Duxxy3]

Quick! Someone show us how the 3ds is in a better position than the DS over the same time period.

Might be better off in japan, out west I would bet that it's dragging behind the DS.

 

[ascii42]

Is this good or bad?

Considering it had less than a week in the reporting period, and it is a Vita title...

It's more than 0, so that's a positive.

Also we have no clue how well Vita games tend to sell digitally vs. physical.

 

[SmokyDave]

The whole "1 week of sales" thing is bullshit no matter which game it's used as an excuse for. Games are very frontloaded.

Why? Do you think a game on sale for one week has the same chance to shift units as a game on sale for 3-4 weeks?

It's more than 0, so that's a positive.

Also we have no clue how well Vita games tend to sell digitally vs. physical.

1 in 3 titles according to a Sony exec, but we have no idea if that is retail, or all titles.

 

[Loudninja]

Creamsugar sometimes does, and bundles.

Doesn't seem fantastic, but I don't know what people's expectations were.

Yeah not sure here.

 

[DaBoss]

33K sounds good for Soul Sacrifice all things considered.

 

[Huff]

I assumed that includes digital.

No?

But really bad regardless

 

[hatchx]

Horrible hardware sales all around. I think the market is reaching saturation.

 

[Baconsammy]

Quick! Someone show us how the 3ds is in a better position than the DS over the same time period.

Aren't we officially in the time period of the DS Lite? I think we've heard the last of the "3DS is doing as well as the DS did" talk.

 

[metalslimer]

I don't see how 33k can be considered good even on Vita.... I mean it's not horrendous either.

 

[Duxxy3]

software prices are high, and so are hardware prices. nintendo went against their own handheld philosophy in creating the thing and it's hurting them right now. give it a lower price, get the pokemon fanbase on there, and it should do another 12m over the next 4 years or so. i don't think it's that tough of a goal. i am assuming that the 3ds has sold 8m in the us at this point. it could be 6m. i honestly can't remember.

Yep, nintendo handhelds are suppose to be "cheap fun".

 

[KillerTravis]

That was the 1 month I mentioned. And then it dropped dramatically this month.

But it rose last month. This month there's DKCR 3D and the next one AC, both much bigger than Lego City imo.

 

[AniHawk]

soul sacrifice doing 33k really isn't that bad. i think it's around half of what monster hunter did last month on 3ds.

keep in mind the vita userbase is around 1.3m in the us. you won't be seeing 100k debuts for anything but the biggest franchises (like cod or assassin's creed)

 

[Sandfox]

Which is seemingly an anomaly.

I think that had more to do with Luigi and PMD coming out while April had Lego which obviously didn't have as big of an impact.

 

[Shalashaska161]

I honestly didn't expect much different for Soul Sacrifice. Unpopular genre here in NA, and on the Vita. Not that I didn't hope for more. Games amazing.

 

[Dave Meltzer]

Why? Do you think a game on sale for one week has the same chance to shift units as a game on sale for 3-4 weeks?

I don't think the number is going to be substantially different, no. If it was the case you'd have a lot more cases of high profile games released near the month not doing well but then charting higher the next month, which never happens.

 

[John Harker]

33K sounds good for Soul Sacrifice all things considered.

It's a fair amount better than I was expecting!

 

[Pie and Beans]

Why? Do you think a game on sale for one week has the same chance to shift units as a game on sale for 3-4 weeks?

Close to it. Thats how stores work after all, shit has a week at the front of the shelf, then comes next weeks releases. Videogame purchasers are frontloaded, and idle "whats that boxart" buyers weeks later arent much of a statistic worth considering at Vita's level.

Still, 33k for something without a lick of western advertising just selling to an ultra niche of users is about what to expect really.

 

[Refreshment.01]

40k or thereabouts, I think.

My friend, have i told you of the Wii U sales overclock? This sh!t will get sale up to 3.24 Million a month.

Will hear about this at the Nintendo Direct in just a few hours. Then it'll look like:

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You'll look like:

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And partisans will look like:

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[Nirolak]

I assumed that includes digital.

It probably doesn't since it's NPD, but I'd be surprised if it's like especially notably higher.

 

[Meus Renaissance]

Random question but, for those who have played both Fire Emblem and the new Luigi, which did you enjoy more?

 

[DaBoss]

I don't see how 33k can be considered good....

• Niche game
• Hard to get into
• Low userbase
• New IP
• No advertising(?)
• Software sales are low in April in general

Sounds good to me.

 

[SmokyDave]

I don't think the number is going to be substantially different, no. If it was the case you'd have a lot more cases of high profile games released near the month not doing well but then charting higher the next month, which never happens.

Games are undoubtedly front-loaded, but to the degree that only the first week really matters? I'm not buying it.

 

[iammeiam]

SS seems like it'd be a heavily front loaded title, given how niche it is and how informed the general Vita audience seems to be... Do we have any first and second month data for previous final-week Vita titles? Still, nature of the audience, I could also see it being heavily digital weighted so maybe that helps.

 

[Baconsammy]

Random question but, for those who have played both Fire Emblem and the new Luigi, which did you enjoy more?

Fire Emblem to me is in a completely different class (higher) than Luigi. There's a demo for FE, btw.

 

[metalslimer]

At this point, Wii U may not even reach 5.5 million sold until the end of the year if that lol. People seriously think there will be no price drop this year are basically predicting the death of the platform entirely.

 

[bryehn]

LEGO City 3DS was pretty bad. A shell of its big brother.

 

[allan-bh]

Soul Sacrifice has bundle in US?

 

[neptunes]

I don't see how 33k can be considered good even on Vita.... I mean it's not horrendous either.

Considering the vita base and the game's appeal, what were you expecting

I think it did pretty well when you take that into consideration.

 

[Dave Meltzer]

Games are undoubtedly front-loaded, but to the degree that only the first week really matters? I'm not buying it.

For a game this niche? Yeah, I'd kinda imagine most people who are going to buy it before a price drop are gonna buy it first week. And if they don't the number who don't isn't going to be incredibly substantial.

 

[Kusagari]

You have niche stuff like Shadows of the Damned struggle to do that much on consoles.

For an extremely niche game on a dead platform that is not bad.

 

[Father_Brain]

PSV MH killer ~ 33k

Given the platform, genre, new IP, and nonexistent marketing, that's not terrible.