Omg, this please. If halo 5 ends up with dub step or generic synthesizer music I'm out.Home...
Save us from dubstep Marty, pls.
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Arbitrator orders Bungie to give fired music chief Marty ODonnell his stock back
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stephendedalus
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Will anyone actually want to work with an alleged egomaniac however?
StUnNeR H2K
Member
Nobody knows the full details, but if this was a money issue I bet Bungie is wishing they had just increased his salary and moved on. Either way this isn't good for Bungie's image.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
It had 1 good track that still wasn't equal to any of Marty's real halo music.
Even ODST(best of the franchise), Wars and Legends had infinitely better soundtracks.
Heck Destiny sounds more like Halo than 4.
If you don't want to work with ego-maniacs, avoid upper management.
that commercial sent chills down my spine at the time lol.
I totally did too!
So let me get this straight.
Upper management decided to fire him without cause and then:
#1. Deny his already earned unpaid benefits
#2. Forcefully remove his shares from the company as one of the founding members without any compensation.
#3. Convert those shares into a different type, probably with the aim to sell them to others.
And Legal somehow signed this off?
Doubtful unless wholly incompetent or yes men.
It does explain why try refused to give him anything at the start, they wanted his shares. I was confused when they refused to pay the paltry sum of his benefit, now it makes more sense why they held out.
Upper management decided to fire him without cause and then:
#1. Deny his already earned unpaid benefits
#2. Forcefully remove his shares from the company as one of the founding members without any compensation.
#3. Convert those shares into a different type, probably with the aim to sell them to others.
And Legal somehow signed this off?
Doubtful unless wholly incompetent or yes men.
It does explain why try refused to give him anything at the start, they wanted his shares. I was confused when they refused to pay the paltry sum of his benefit, now it makes more sense why they held out.
2spooky4me
Member
Let the filibustering begin!!
Riposte
Member
I thought this would be about Keith David kicking ass and taking names.
UnholySpectacle
Member
Just skimming that doc it says that around the beginning he had almost 400,000 shares and then he was given almost 50,000 more. I wonder what those shares are worth now.
EDIT: Wow, other than the claim that Marty would be a pain at meetings as a reason not to give his shares back, it also states that he should not get them back because they already had plans for that stock.
"Yes, he should not get those shares because I already made arrangements for the new sauna and company trip to Thailand."
Sounds legit.
EDIT: Wow, other than the claim that Marty would be a pain at meetings as a reason not to give his shares back, it also states that he should not get them back because they already had plans for that stock.
"Yes, he should not get those shares because I already made arrangements for the new sauna and company trip to Thailand."
Sounds legit.
That's not how it works man, you don't hire a guy, keep him around for almost 18 years, make him one of the faces of the company, send him to Sony reveals as one of the main people from Bungie, only to can him less than a year later, without any cause, and then try to withhold his unpaid vacation and wages and then try to steal his shares from him, if he was a jerk and asshole it would've happened sooner.
There is a reason a lot of longtime Bungie staff are no longer with the company (Marcus Lehto, Brian Jarrard, Joe Tung, Jaime Griesemer, Joseph Staten etc.)
In fact, when Marty was fired, Jaime Griesemer even tweeted: "Destiny, from the creators of Halo (that we didn't fire)".
I wish we knew the whole story, but I think Bungie has just become too large, too corporate, and has an Activision presence on the board, and that their money influences what is happening.
As more information is released, it's obvious that the firing was not put before whatever constitutes a legal department at Bungie.
I mean really? The only legal defense for stealing his shares is because he won't play nicely with the board...
Uncle Rupee
Banned
I bet you he was fired because he didn't agree with the Paul McCartney deal or something. Bringing him on to do a song for the game just strikes me as so weird that it had to have come from the head of the company or Activision simply wanting to meet him, or something.
It still can be.
soulassssns
Banned
Destiny preorder canceled.
soulassssns
Banned
Keyword alleged.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
He should just roll up to a stockholder meeting, drop trow and let one off, and then say that's his latest contribution to the soundtrack.
EmptySpace
Banned
getting fired by the company you partly own...ouch.
NeededSleep
Member
Something tells me we are gonna have some fucked up 8bit music in Destiny 2.
If he's fired, that means he won't be going into the building outside of board meetings, yeah? I don't see how he'd be a nuisance for Bungie outside of the board meetings. Which you can simply put up to vote to remove his power or something, surely?
I believe they can fire him from his position that manages or operates the company, but he is still a significant shareholder with founders' stock. That means he has a seat on the board and a vote. This is owed to him whether he is employed in a management role by the company or not.
Right, but what I mean is if he's no longer a manager for Bungie's "day to day" he wouldn't be in the building, obviously? Outside of like Shareholder meetings, and if that's the case: Can't they just put his shareholder powers up to vote? IE: "Do you want to keep Marty on the Board of Directors?"
I think it depends on a bunch of different things like what percentage of stock he has in the company, and whether they can prove he has a conflict of interest or not. It's hard to be able to say from here. I'm not an expert on this.
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This did always seem like a hot tub situation to me.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
This is kinda why I wish Bungie would have been able to stay with Microsoft (and why I wish Microsoft would have given Bungie the opportunity to do what they wanted and just created 343i regardless). It just seems like a lot of Bungie staples have either been fired or quit (and many of those even came back to Microsoft). I want to add a caveat that this is purely from that perspective rather than Bungie games being exclusive to one platform or the other. It just seems like a lot of core Bungie talent has left (Joseph Staten and Marty are two people I never expected to leave Bungie in particular). Also, when I say "leave" I meant leave for various reasons -- I'm not sure which of the Bungie talent just quit or were simply fired. I mean, Marty was one of the founding seven members of the company and Joe Staten created the Halo world and Destiny's world.
Of course, maybe the issue with Bungie is that they mainly just wanted to be independent (and thus fully able to control the properties they create). It may not have been the fact that they were constantly making Halo (I only think this because the Destiny deal with Activision is for 10 years).
Marty never really came off as very arrogant to me in videos, but again that doesn't necessarily mean much at all considering his public appearance could very likely be very different than how he personally conducts himself. Regardless, I remember that article (I forgot who did it) where someone high up in Bungie (maybe Jason Jones?) talked about how it's hard when certain figures of the company are famous while others are not because it's always the result of a team rather than one individual. I know Marty did acknowledge that everything he did was always a team effort, so I don't think anyone can fault Marty for being popular (the music in Halo is super classic and fits the game very well -- I can hear that music and imagine playing the game instantly -- so I think he's deserving of the praise). Thinking back, Halo is one of the few games where I distinctly feel like the music greatly enhances my enjoyment of the game. When I heard Marty had gotten fired, I was actually quite a bit less excited for Destiny 2.
I'll add another caveat too: I'm trying not to judge Bungie's decision to fire Marty (I don't think anyone really can since we don't know all the facts and Bungie is not really in a position (as an employer) to talk about why someone was fired), I'm just disappointed that I won't be hearing Marty's music in any future Destiny games (or at least any new music).
Only way for him to not be able to show up for shareholder and board meetings is for them to buy out his shares.
They cant take them away without him quitting from the company(his contract) but since he was fired, that clause did not take into affect.
This sounds hilarious. I really hope he is a huge pain in the ass at those meetings if he was fired for shitty reasons.
Pops Maellard
Member
I really enjoyed 4's soundtrack. It doesn't come close to Marty at his best, nor does it try to copy that ethereal quality his compositions have, but it's great in its own right.
I lean the Corparate greed route because of what Actvisions tried to pull on Former Infinity Ward/ now Respawn on not sharing profits WITH THEM and strangely this happened when Activisions now has had influence on Bungee higher ups for few years.