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[panama chief]

anyone record just the music? i loved how the theme from the main screen would get instrumental backing when you went into character select.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Are Ribbon Girl's party punches or confetti punch or whatever their called suppose to be good? I don't think I've ever been hit by that arm.

 

[decoyplatypus]

I played for another 30 minutes this morning and only reconfirmed that I will need hours and hours of isolation drills to get the controls down. Right now I have to concentrate too much on each action. If I am (intentionally) throwing a hooked punch with my right hand, I am not really aware of what I am doing with my movement and left hand. Sure, I may be jumping and dashing if that's what I was doing before, but I am not, like, intentionally or strategically doing those things. Often I find myself passively drifting out of range because I have let my joycon tilt back while I was focusing on some other action.

I'm also noticing that years of gaming have conditioned me to think left hand = movement, right hand = action, so I tend to throw far fewer punches with my left hand.

 

[NotLiquid]

I'm thinking the tier list would be more based around arms than fighters honestly.

Helix definitely needs better ARMS.

If we're talking strictly abilities and default ARMS, Ribbon is probably the best character right now, followed by Minmin and Mechanica.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Yeah I find it real hard to think of this as a fighter tier list wise. Just too many variables. I'm guessing the community would gravitate towards the most useful combinations in regards to arms+fighters though, but if nintendo can balance it well it should allow for a lot of viable combos.

 

[TheGoreMagala]

Are Ribbon Girl's party punches or confetti punch or whatever their called suppose to be good? I don't think I've ever been hit by that arm.

The poppers? I mean, they're light so anything can stop their motion. However they're wind and throw people away when charged and thus is useful in 2v2. You need to make sure it'll connect uninterrupted and that can be rather difficult. However a charged sparky to disable enemy arms and a charged popper to throw them away is pretty decent

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Mummy needs an arm that will make him agile. I don't see that character getting use.

 

[jts]

Seeing the healthbars I bet you were hiding as they duked it out with each other. >_> <_<

His rush gauge is nearly full so he was in the action for sure.

 

[TheGoreMagala]

Mummy needs an arm that will make him agile. I don't see that character getting use.

He's incredibly strong and can self heal. I was able to usurp Ribbon Girls and Ninjaras who were the top of the lobby with him. It's all about how you use the characters, man

 

[AquaWateria]

Ive only seen a few Helix players who are absolutely dangerous.

That guardian is a nightmare if used correctly and his elasticity if used properly can be problematic.

Helix is the character that has the highest learning curve plus he can dodge a super with his elasticity. A skilled Helix can be a formidable opponent.

 

[Luigi87]

There's also a slight meta in regard to arm placement. If you see your enemy put a medium arm on their right and a light on their left, it's best for you to put a heavy on your left and a medium or higher on your right.

Yeah I was noticing people would begin to wait and decide what to equip right as the timer was nearing zero often.
Going to make it that much more exciting when the full game is out and we have full access to all the ARMS.

 

[shouamabane]

Mummy needs an arm that will make him agile. I don't see that character getting use.

Yeah, I didn't have an arm fast enough to chase opponents down from any distance at all. The shot-gun arms are good in close though.

I had trouble aiming up at jumping opponents at all though. I may have just not figured it out yet.

Ive only seen a few Helix players who are absolutely dangerous.

That guardian is a nightmare if used correctly and his elasticity if used properly can be problematic.

Helix is the character that has the highest learning curve plus he can dodge a super with his elasticity. A skilled Helix can be a formidable opponent.

That arm is pretty ridiculous.

 

[TheMoon]

Helix definitely needs better ARMS.

The only time I've had issues with Helix is in V-Ball. Can try what I want, I just can't deal with the ball as him.

 

[Seik]

Ive only seen a few Helix players who are absolutely dangerous.

That guardian is a nightmare if used correctly and his elasticity if used properly can be problematic.

Helix is the character that has the highest learning curve plus he can dodge a super with his elasticity. A skilled Helix can be a formidable opponent.

Yeah, me too.

Helix is the first on which I'll jump on in a free for all. I take care of the rest after. XD

 

[Pandy]

I like Mummy too. But I had trouble with the more mobile chars just jumping and throwing me.

I almost always used Megaton/Retorcher.

Use Megaton.
Opponent dodges the slow attack and flanks, goes for grab.
Use Retorcher to break grab. Punish.

I certainly never felt that any of the more mobile characters beat me because their character was 'better'.

I played for another 30 minutes this morning and only reconfirmed that I will need hours and hours of isolation drills to get the controls down. Right now I have to concentrate too much on each action. If I am (intentionally) throwing a hooked punch with my right hand, I am not really aware of what I am doing with my movement and left hand. Sure, I may be jumping and dashing if that's what I was doing before, but I am not, like, intentionally or strategically doing those things. Often I find myself passively drifting out of range because I have let my joycon tilt back while I was focusing on some other action.

I'm also noticing that years of gaming have conditioned me to think left hand = movement, right hand = action, so I tend to throw far fewer punches with my left hand.

I think this was subconsciously probably why I always put the Megaton on the left side, as it was my big 'set-up' hand, while my right did the 'work'.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

He's incredibly strong and can self heal. I was able to usurp Ribbon Girls and Ninjaras who were the top of the lobby with him. It's all about how you use the characters, man

It sounds like you were fighting inexperience Ribbon Girls and Ninjaras.

 

[TheGoreMagala]

The only time I've had issues with Helix is in V-Ball. Can try what I want, I just can't deal with the ball as him.

I would imagine making him tall and using the ice dragons/blurbs could be useful in V ball

 

[TheMoon]

I would imagine making him tall and using the ice dragons/blurbs could be useful in V ball

I should try the dragons sometime, they were always suspicious to me in V-Ball. With him and Min Min, too.

 

[shouamabane]

I almost always used Megaton/Retorcher.

Use Megaton.
Opponent dodges the slow attack and flanks, goes for grab.
Use Retorcher to break grab. Punish.

I certainly never felt that any of the more mobile characters beat me because their character was 'better'.

I think this was subconsciously probably why I always put the Megaton on the left side, as it was my big 'set-up' hand, while my right did the 'work'.

Yep. I used the exact same ARMS and strategy.

 

[Totakeke]

There's hardly anything Helix can do against a smash In v-ball since his arms are so slow. Your only hope is to get the ball as soon as it drops.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

I didn't know Twintelle can slow down punches. And she can charge in mid-air? She is gonna sweep.

 

[TheGoreMagala]

I almost always used Megaton/Retorcher.

Use Megaton.
Opponent dodges the slow attack and flanks, goes for grab.
Use Retorcher to break grab. Punish.

I certainly never felt that any of the more mobile characters beat me because their character was 'better'.



I think this was subconsciously probably why I always put the Megaton on the left side, as it was my big 'set-up' hand, while my right did the 'work'.

It sounds like you were fighting inexperience Ribbon Girls and Ninjaras.

I dunno, as you can see, I'm not the only one. I feel people are underestimating Mummy's ability to bait and punish. The Megaton is versatile and can corner or lead an enemy to where you want to go. Meanwhile the Scorcher is also heavy but faster and fires three arms so it can block 1-2 incoming attacks and hit the enemy 2-1 times respectively. You can also curve punches upwards which admittedly is difficult but possible. Punishing grabs as Mummy is the best

 

[Totakeke]

You also probably want to play Mummy like a Zangief, slowly walk them towards a wall or corner.

 

[phanphare]

This game is gonna get balance changes. I have some gripes with certain characters. Surprisingly Mummy and Mechanica don't need nerfs like I guessed back when they were revealed.

honestly it's foolish to make definitive statements this early on in the game

we haven't even played competitive 1v1 yet

 

[Antiwhippy]

I feel like it's pretty easy to zone out the mummies that I've faced using dragon and ramram.

 

[Hispanic! At the Disco]

It took me a while but I ended up going almost perfect with helix and his blorb arms for a few matches. Caught a lot of people off guard with them slowly bouncing towards them.

 

[TheGoreMagala]

I didn't know Twintelle can slow down punches. And she can charge in mid-air? She is gonna sweep.

Everyone can charge mid air though?

That ability doesn't seem that strong though considering it that it doesn't slow them down enough to the point that you'll dodge them every time. Plus the slower speed means the person subjected to it could just curve the punch to actually hit.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

honestly it's foolish to make definitive statements this early on in the game

we haven't even played competitive 1v1 yet

It's foolish to think it's balanced this early.

Everyone can charge mid air though?

That ability doesn't seem that strong though considering it that it doesn't slow them down enough to the point that you'll dodge them every time. Plus the slower speed means the person subjected to it could just curve the punch to actually hit.

The difference is she can hover.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Are Ribbon Girl's party punches or confetti punch or whatever their called suppose to be good? I don't think I've ever been hit by that arm.

It's ok, it's basically a keepaway arm

 

[phanphare]

It's foolish to think it's balanced this early.

perhaps, but that doesn't invalidate my statement

 

[Totakeke]

It's foolish to think it's balanced this early.

Knowing whether something is balanced requires players to play at a pretty high level. And no, just because someone got 100+ points so far doesn't mean they've fully grasped the mechanics. This is like saying Splatoon rollers are OP.

 

[Christberg]

You also probably want to play Mummy like a Zangief, slowly walk them towards a wall or corner.

That's exactly what you do. Block when they punch, punch when they throw, keep them at medium range and then unleash when they're cornered. You can also run a similar game with Mechanica, except you have some extra movement options there instead of regenerating health.

I've seen folks running a turtle game with both that was absolutely devastating. I've pulled off a few absolutely soul snatching victories with both, but I'm not really all that great at the game yet.

 

[TheGoreMagala]

That's exactly what you do. Block when they punch, punch when they throw, keep them at medium range and then unleash when they're cornered. You can also run a similar game with Mechanica, except you have some extra movement options there instead of regenerating health.

I've seen folks running a turtle game with both that was absolutely devastating. I've pulled off a few absolutely soul snatching victories with both, but I'm not really all that great at the game yet.

Remember to press L every time you block a punch guys (the dash button), trust me

 

[broncobuster]

The released game will let you choose modes online, right?

1v1v1 and the 2v2 Knuckles Chaotix modes are more annoying than fun compared with other modes.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Knowing whether something is balanced requires players to play at a pretty high level. And no, just because someone got 100+ points so far doesn't mean they've fully grasped the mechanics. This is like saying Splatoon rollers are OP.

I actually want more buffs.

 

[TheGoreMagala]

It's foolish to think it's balanced this early.

The difference is she can hover.

Fair enough. Regardless I believe from seeing videos about people who have the game early and have tried her, I can't exactly remember why, but apparently the ability isn't as powerful as it sounds on paper.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Fair enough. Regardless I believe from seeing videos about people who have the game early and have tried her, I can't exactly remember why, but apparently the ability isn't as powerful as it sounds on paper.

I imagine it makes the punches move at the speed of a Megawatt or close to it.

 

[J@hranimo]

I like Mummy too. But I had trouble with the more mobile chars just jumping and throwing me.

You can get around that, just have to move ahead of them or jump and punch. Like most heavy characters you gotta be reactionary and rely on reading your opponent to succeed consistently. I personally prefer The Phoenix + Megaton combo with Mummy (and I feel like the only one who doesn't use Revolver much

I'm thinking the tier list would be more based around arms than fighters honestly.

I agree. I wonder if Helix's gooey arm is the only one that blinds you?

The released game will let you choose modes online, right?

1v1v1 and the 2v2 Knuckles Chaotix modes are more annoying than fun compared with other modes.

I believe so, at least with friends.

 

[ZeroX03]

Guess there's no chance they're going to run this again before release is there? God I'm so angry about the ANZ times, I'm not buying this game having only played the tutorial.

 

[TheGoreMagala]

Guess there's no chance they're going to run this again before release is there? God I'm so angry about the ANZ times, I'm not buying this game having only played the tutorial.

Next weekend, same times

 

[Pandy]

Remember to press L every time you block a punch guys (the dash button), trust me

I only learned this reading the Hints and Tips after the last session closed. I think it'll be a big deal if I can learn to use this with my Master Mummy.

 

[ZeroX03]

Next weekend, same times

Useless to me god damnit

 

[shingi70]

Anyone know how to move backwards and forwards when using motion conrols?

 

[NotLiquid]

Anyone know how to move backwards and forwards when using motion conrols?

Tilt both controls forward/backward.

 

[TheGoreMagala]

Anyone know how to move backwards and forwards when using motion conrols?

Tilt Joy cons backwards and forwards? make sure you're using the thumbs up position, which is holding them both sideways

 

[hao chi]

I hope it's possible to customize the controls in the full game. I really don't like L3 as guard.

 

[TheMoon]

I hope it's possible to customize the controls in the full game. I really don't like L3 as guard.

no, highly unlikely. unless it's patched in later after community demand.

 

[solarus]

I hope it's possible to customize the controls in the full game. I really don't like L3 as guard.

This so much. Makes me not use it much.

 

[decoyplatypus]

Stupid question: in modes with multiple opponents, how do you switch your target? I've tried moving around to try to center my camera and punches on the person I want to target, but I can't help feeling there's a simpler solution.

 

[Luigi87]

Stupid question: in modes with multiple opponents, how do you switch your target? I've tried moving around to try to center my camera and punches on the person I want to target, but I can't help feeling there's a simpler solution.

Motion - The directional buttons (Ieft joycon. I forget if the face buttons on the right joycon work)
Pro - D-Pad or Right Stick