It's easy to get into, yes, but you'll be wrecked by even the standard difficulty or average online player if you just flail around. It's a surprisingly punishing game.
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ARMS is about to outsell SFV. Why?
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It's easy to get into, yes, but you'll be wrecked by even the standard difficulty or average online player if you just flail around. It's a surprisingly punishing game.
Not sure for either SFV or ARMS.
All I know is SFV was at 1.4 a month in and ARMS is at 1.1. SFV is a sales disappointment, but it didn't flop.
Shin
Banned
In this case it is somewhat true though and there's nothing wrong with that it's a new console after all.
Every game is selling well because of that and the other part of it is portability I reckon, win/win IMO.
What's your agenda, OP?
As a street fighter fan (since 2) its very disheartening, but I would say very well deserved that SFV is doing terrible, its a pretty bad game. Sad thing is that I don't believe CAPCOM learned the real lesson with this game(there was a very good gamespot article on this subject).
Sad times for SFV fans, but good times for general FG as there is luckily a ton more and better games out there right now (T7, KOF14)
As for ARMS its a good first entry in a new franchise. Hopefully the sales will justify a sequel with further intricacies and more strategizing, as this first one is a bit shallow.
As a street fighter fan (since 2) its very disheartening, but I would say very well deserved that SFV is doing terrible, its a pretty bad game. Sad thing is that I don't believe CAPCOM learned the real lesson with this game(there was a very good gamespot article on this subject).
Sad times for SFV fans, but good times for general FG as there is luckily a ton more and better games out there right now (T7, KOF14)
As for ARMS its a good first entry in a new franchise. Hopefully the sales will justify a sequel with further intricacies and more strategizing, as this first one is a bit shallow.
Steve Youngblood
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The gifs don't help.
I believe Nintendo vs Capcom could outsell all other vs titles if done correctly.
Ploid 3.0
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To people that SFV is available to there are far far more options of great games to play. More fighting games, more shooter games (which someone described arms as and made me think it probably would be an amazing experiment), and just more things to try. Arms is in a good position for the first year of a platform. Street Fighter 2 on Switch did great as well because of the game pool. 1-2 Switch did insanely well also.
CharminUltra
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Edit: Oops my bad
But yeah, nice surprise. ARMS is definitely... different and exciting. That said, while I own SFV, I haven't delved too deep into it yet, so can't really comment on its quality.
But yeah, nice surprise. ARMS is definitely... different and exciting. That said, while I own SFV, I haven't delved too deep into it yet, so can't really comment on its quality.
Correct both games are exactly the same on release, single player content sucks and multilayer is where it's at.
sixteen-bit
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SFV got left behind
Why do we have to go this low. This is the reason why this would get locked.
Anyway, I think Arms is just the new hotness on a new hotness console. It was bound to do well.
Good stuff to nintendo.
Dark Ninja
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This is good for ARMS and always good to have more fighting game franchises. ARMS would have to continually sell though it could take a while if it doesn't have staying power. ARMS is really good and im having a ton of fun with it. SFV shipped with more content than ARMS though.
I don;t particularly like SFV but come on man.... casual stuff outselling "hardcore" stuff isn't exactly groundbreaking news. It doesn't help that SFV constantly shat the bed out the gate with many of its issues still believed to exist despite being fixed a while ago...some people still think the rootkit still exists FFS. SFV had an awful start and no ammount of fixing will bring the casual market back into the fold....which is unfortunate but its the bed Capcom made and thus they are going to try to keep afloat by catering to the audience and whales that is still sticking around for better or for worse.
Arms on the other hand, is on console starving for new games, got pushed by a lot of youtubers, is popular in the fan art realm (quietly becoming an important way of advertising actually lol) and is easy to pick up with enough depth to keep it interesting...and most importantly didn't have the constant bad news storm that SFV (and now MVCI) has had. Capcom botched the fuck out of SFV's launch and the game will never truly recover from that, ARMS never really had any setbacks IIRC. Also a factor is that SFV isn't the only FG in town....
Arms on the other hand, is on console starving for new games, got pushed by a lot of youtubers, is popular in the fan art realm (quietly becoming an important way of advertising actually lol) and is easy to pick up with enough depth to keep it interesting...and most importantly didn't have the constant bad news storm that SFV (and now MVCI) has had. Capcom botched the fuck out of SFV's launch and the game will never truly recover from that, ARMS never really had any setbacks IIRC. Also a factor is that SFV isn't the only FG in town....
If they were still relevant, I'd count them. Not saying they're not good, but let's be real here.
DAREALGUMMY
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So can we get rid of this narrative of PS4 being the system that can sell anything because it has a 60 million plus user base?
Jaded Alyx
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I too remember when Codename: Steam and The Wonderful 101 sold over a million...
^Those games also launched on a console that some ppl thought was an add on for the Wii....
I'll take these answers for $200 Alex.
Good, I'm not alone.
lol
I'll take these answers for $200 Alex.
Good, I'm not alone.
lol
LordKasual
Banned
I mean...the logic is sound
like, what else ARE you going to buy on Switch right now?
1-2 Switch? Bomberman? Everyone already has Zelda....
i don't see how this is a negative thing. ARMS is the first real Switch exclusive, you can't play anything like it on any other platform.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
A piss poor Street Fighter entry that was missing the most common modes.
Why is it not selling well?
Really? Is it rocket science?
A great history guarantees nothing.
Why is it not selling well?
Really? Is it rocket science?
A great history guarantees nothing.
Neoleo2143
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ARMS actually had marketing.
GravityInsanity
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Da da da, da da da, da da da...
"that's just the way it is"
"that's just the way it is"
Hmm... perhaps I should say a Nintendo first party game that received marketing?
TwistedFreeze
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So as long as people get rid of the narrative that games are only selling well on the Switch because there's nothing else to play. I mean, both are wrong and don't really make much sense as the product has to be appealing in some way for people to actually buy it
LordRaptor
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Yeah, that stellar GOAT feb 2016 lineup must have really damaged SFV sales with all that top tier competition it was struggling to stand out from
SinCityAssassin
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I feel like you should've made this thread after we see them finish Q2.
I love fighting games. Already have 5 of them on my PS4 and I'm planning on getting a several more, yet I haven't bought Street Fighter V and even though I see it all the time for 20, I'm not planning on pulling the trigger anytime soon.
Everything from the messy launch to the missing modes, the season passes as well as the questionable in game currency to unlock things have kept me sceptical.
If there's ever an ultimate edition with everything on one disc, I'll pick it up. As long as it's 30 or under.
That being said, I had little to no interest in ARM till the test version came online.
After an hour of play I was sold and bought the game the day it was released.
Even though Splatoon has taken up all of my competitive game time, I still have no regret whatsoever to having paid full price for it.
It's super polished, original and tons of fun. So yeah...
Everything from the messy launch to the missing modes, the season passes as well as the questionable in game currency to unlock things have kept me sceptical.
If there's ever an ultimate edition with everything on one disc, I'll pick it up. As long as it's 30 or under.
That being said, I had little to no interest in ARM till the test version came online.
After an hour of play I was sold and bought the game the day it was released.
Even though Splatoon has taken up all of my competitive game time, I still have no regret whatsoever to having paid full price for it.
It's super polished, original and tons of fun. So yeah...
LordKasual
Banned
I don't think there is one reason to pin down. SFV had a miserable launch surrounded by bad word of mouth, and underwhelming reviews from press and players. Comparatively, ARMS is a brand new Nintendo IP, completely unique, and launched on a platform that has only a handful of games to choose from.
Sora the Cat
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There are other games, good games. But you already know that, dont you?
foxuzamaki
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Please tell me your joking
ZombiePlatypus
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Dear lord OP, this thread is killing me.
Jaded Alyx
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Exactly. The marketing generated the buzz not the fact that it was a new IP or from Nintendo.
Heck, Grand Prix mode can be very humbling too.
And I agree with you on the skill ceiling. There's miles and miles of strategies to explore in this game.
DecoReturns
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Snippercilps is the first first party Switch exclusive.
Shin
Banned
Nothing "low" about my comment, SFV does look more entertaining and it's the only fighting game I watch as part of eSports.
Switch is a new system - fact - and it has less games - fact -, everything is selling well - fact -, don't make it something it ain't.
Sgt.Pepper
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Maybe because SFV is kind of trashy.
Sorcerer Supreme
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capcom botched nearly everything when it came to sfv so this is no surprise.
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