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[LordKasual]

Please tell me your joking

I'm really not joking, why would you think im joking.

If you have a WiiU, you have access to:

-Mario Kart 8
-Breath of the WIld
-Splatoon 1, which isn't 2, but still is Splatoon

ARMS is the first significant title on the Switch that is truly an exclusive experience.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

The real question is why did SFV underperform. No real need to bring Arms (or any other fighting game) into it.

-Splatoon 1, which isn't 2, but still is Splatoon

Good lord.

 

[OmegaSmash]

I'm much more interested in the EVO Japan turn out, personally.

 

[DecoReturns]

I'm really not joking, why would you think im joking.

If you have a WiiU, you have access to:

-Mario Kart 8
-Breath of the WIld
-Splatoon 1, which isn't 2, but still is Splatoon

ARMS is the first significant title on the Switch that is truly an exclusive experience.

Snipperclips

 

[Ray Down]

Any overuse of those damn pop gaf gifs, there will be hell to pay.

Pop gaf is just the worst.

 

[Tom Nook]

Arms gots legs.

 

[DMONKUMA]

Pop gaf is just the worst.

I dunno coming from a user that has a pudding avatar...

 

[Confused Cheeseburger]

NintendoGAF always outdoes itself

 

[LordRaptor]

I'm really not joking, why would you think im joking.

If you have a WiiU, you have access to:

-Mario Kart 8
-Breath of the WIld
-Splatoon 1, which isn't 2, but still is Splatoon

ARMS is the first significant title on the Switch that is truly an exclusive experience.

And as history shows, most people own a WiiU

 

[13ruce]

Smash has been outselling Street Fighter for years tho.

But hmmm Arms is a new like experience so i can see why it could outsell Street Fighter now. Capcom fucked up SFV alot on launch. It really hurt the IP quite a bit i think.

 

[Zukkoyaki]

I'll also chime in that Arms along with Zelda and Mario Kart were the first three significant retail releases for the Switch. No offense to other quality games like Puyo Puyo Tetris, Snipperclips, Bomberman and Shovel Knight, but they weren't pushed anywhere near as hard those the main three and they are all styles of games that aren't particular big.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Any overuse of those damn pop gaf gifs, there will be hell to pay.

Apologies if this is an inappropriate place to ask, but why are POPGAF gifs specifically an issue? Every stability thread is gifs galore, as are many OTs in both gaming and community.

It would be nice to have some clarity on this because it comes up a lot.

 

[Max Knight]

The quick answer is that it's easier to get into and is on a hot new console.

Competitive player retention matters more than sales in the FGC though. ARMS has not been around long enough for us to know how it will measure up, but being non-traditional isn't helping its chances of becoming mainstay, nor is its Switch exclusivity.

Time will tell.

 

[Composer]

It's what happens when you abandon the majority of your players. You know the people who just like to play versus with CPU and arcade mode? That stuff that was in every SF game from the beginning. It's like they have no idea what made them a living room success.

 

[Rncewind]

What is this op lol, pop gaf strikes again.


Anyways i think the main reason is SF V is banking on to being hardcore too much in a genre that is dying.

 

[joe2187]

New game on a new platform, Vs a game that was released on PC, PS4 only and is very popular in the community.

 

[Marvel]

NintendoGAF always outdoes itself

Indeed.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

ARMS is something fresh and new, easier to get into and is on a system that is the new hotness for a lot of people.

Content doesn't have anything to do with it though. Both games launched in barebones states.

 

[moltonasty]

I mean regardless of what game we're talking about it's fairly obvious isn't it? More hype/better reviews = more sales

SFV had low hype, not enough marketing, and reviews were lukewarm

ARMS had that new Nintendo IP, new console hype and good reviews. Not that hard to understand IMO.

 

[Delio]

So as long as people get rid of the narrative that games are only selling well on the Switch because there's nothing else to play. I mean, both are wrong and don't really make much sense as the product has to be appealing in some way for people to actually buy it

That excuse of "People will buy anything that releases" will prob persist well into next year.

 

[The Hermit]

Or Street Fighter II, which sold almost half a million at $40.

Physical. Including digital it's certainly over that.

Anyway, it just shows what a mistep SFV was. Focusing on hardcore player in detriment of casuals, and it's losing both.

 

[Neiteio]

ARMS knocking out all expectations!

(Seriously, I'm just happy that a new IP in a niche genre is doing so well on a relatively new system.)

Mods don't lock obvious flamebait threads on this site? Yikes.

GAF is mature enough to discuss toy sales... I think

 

[LordKasual]

Snipperclips

sigh whatever

The real question is why did SFV underperform. No real need to bring Arms (or any other fighting game) into it.

There's probably tons of reasons why SFV underperformed, Capcom made plenty of mistakes and bad assumptions about it. In typical Capcom fashion, no less.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Man, I dont why but I deeply dislike PopGaf

 

[Skilletor]

What about MKX and Injustice, tho?

 

[jroc74]

Exactly. The marketing generated the buzz not the fact that it was a new IP or from Nintendo.

Yea, that too.

 

[Type40]

If only street fighter v had legs...

 

[jennetics]

ARMS is a brand new IP on a brand new console. People will buy games (especially new/interesting IPs) for a console, especially one that has fewer choices at the moment.

Not sure what's hard to believe about this, or why this thread is necessary.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

I would guess it's because Arms is a better game during it's launch window when compared to how SFV launched and that's when a huge bulk of a games sales are made.

 

[Shin]

Anyways i think the main reason is SF V is banking on to being hardcore too much in a genre that is dying.

I don't agree with this, if anything we now have more fighting games than ever (assumption), looking what's out now and what's down the road.
They made some bad decisions with SFV but it doesn't make it less of a game, but those decisions did hurt it's sales and still are.

 

[Uzzy]

If only street fighter v had legs...

It does. The OP, however, hates them.

The size of the characters feet is pretty weird, and I wish they made Chun's thighs a little smaller and leaner to make her look more nimble, but I'd rather they fix Ken's face first.

 

[Confused Cheeseburger]

I'm really not joking, why would you think im joking.

If you have a WiiU, you have access to:

-Mario Kart 8
-Breath of the WIld
-Splatoon 1, which isn't 2, but still is Splatoon

ARMS is the first significant title on the Switch that is truly an exclusive experience.

Splatoon 2 is better than 1 in every way. This logic is like discounting Halo 3 because halo 2 is on XBOX OG.

 

[CO_Andy]

Nintendo fans are thirsty, plain and simple

 

[LordKano]

Please tell me your joking

Look at his post history. He's serious.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Install base, thats the only reason how I can see why its selling better

 

[Blam]

because it's not a good game.

 

[jroc74]

The real answer:






Twintelle

 

[rhandino]

Its a more appealing producto to a more broader base than SFV? Like, it's basically the same reason Tekken, Injustice, MK, Smash keeps outselling it.

Will be more fun when Dragon Ball FighterZ and that rumored LoL fighting game releases and disrupt the scene.

I, for one, am enjoying the amazing amount of incredible quality fighting game that are being released rn

#Pray4Capcom

 

[RockmanBN]

That excuse of "People will buy anything that releases" will prob persist well into next year.

Watch. There will be many saying that Mario Odyssey is the Switchs first actualgood origial game.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

Mods don't lock obvious flamebait threads on this site? Yikes.

Well, I've already argued that I'm suspicious of this thread and will probably lock it. However, I was willing to give a brief trial window to see where we land.

SFV is a hardcore game.
ARMS is a new game on a new system that everyone is trying to justify early adoption for, so they'll buy anything for it.

Oh, I see your game here. You picked up that offering shitty posts will expedite the process to lock the thread and have offered this. Well done sir!

 

[DR2K]

Yeah, that stellar GOAT feb 2016 lineup must have really damaged SFV sales with all that top tier competition it was struggling to stand out from

PS4 had been out since 2014.

Switch owners bought 500k copies at $40 SF2 port you can get for $5 on rival platforms. That's the very definition of thirst.

 

[Askherserenity]

The way people in this thread are trying to come up with excuses as to why ARMS outsold SFV in just a couple months.

The fact that ARMS already outsold SFV...which was released in February of last year and on PS4 AND PC.

Not sure which one of these is funnier.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

It's funny how Arms is being called fresh and new and different, when before it was largely being described as weird and ugly and Wii sports boxing

 

[Neoxon]

I mean regardless of what game we're talking about it's fairly obvious isn't it? More hype/better reviews = more sales

SFV had low hype, not enough marketing, and reviews were lukewarm

ARMS had that new Nintendo IP, new console hype and good reviews. Not that hard to understand IMO.

SFV & ARMS both have a 77 on Metacritic.

 

[molnizzle]

The way people in this thread are trying to come up with excuses as to why ARMS outsold SFV in just a couple months.

The fact that ARMS already outsold SFV...which was released in February of last year and on PS4 AND PC.

Not sure which one of these is funnier.

Thing is, it still hasn't outsold SFV.

This thread might have a reason for existing if/when it does.

 

[Sephzilla]

The way people in this thread are trying to come up with excuses as to why ARMS outsold SFV in just a couple months.

The fact that ARMS already outsold SFV...which was released in February of last year and on PS4 AND PC.

Not sure which one of these is funnier.

.........but it hasnt

 

[Glass Rebel]

I kinda love you for this, OP.

 

[Deku Tree]

Simple: ARMS looks fun.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

I'm really not joking, why would you think im joking.

If you have a WiiU, you have access to:

-Mario Kart 8
-Splatoon 1, which isn't 2, but still is Splatoon

Both of which have a heavily depleted online player base ever since Deluxe and Splatoon 2 appeared and Miiverse is about to be shut down, which was a big part of the aesthetic in Splatoon 1.

 

[ViolentP]

More options on other platforms is my guess.