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ARROW Season 3 |OT| Welcome to the New Age

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With Cupid's stalking all episode, I can just imagine her being in the shadows the last two seasons with Radioactive playing everytime Ollie kissed someone.
 
Veelk said:
Which is one of it's greatest failings, I think. Even if I were to accept this is just Batman under a different name, I can't think of anything it actually does that's better than what I've seen in numerous other batman shows. Vertigo as Joker was weak to almost every joker I've ever seen and there wasn't much of a dynamic between him and 'batman' like there should be. He was just a crazy guy and his relationship with Arrow ended there. Deathstroke, with his incessant whining, is a shadow of the badass merc found in Teen Titans (either the comic or show). Ra's al Ghul hasn't really been elaborated upon, but I doubt he'll top Begin's interpretation. Roy is a shitty Dick Grayson. Diggle and Felicity are an ok Alfred and Oracle I guess? I don't even know who Bat-Thea is supposed to be. Nor am I sure who Merlyn would be. Owlman maybe? If we're going by Snyder's interpretation, then he's a crappy Owlman too, though as a villain Merlyn is one of the better ones in arrow, which isn't saying much but there you go. Edit: Actually, Merlyn isn't a Batman villain at all. Super rich corperate psychodad of best friend who was interested in hero's main love interest? Hello, Norman Osborn.

The show really had a big opportunity in taking Arrow and establishing the series mythos for a wider audience. Rather than Ra's al Ghul, they could have taken that 7 seven weapon clan concept Lemire created in his run of Green Arrow and elaborated on it. He never had enough time to give most of the clans the full development they deserved. Only the Arrow clan and maybe the Mask and Spear Clan got development. The rest were kinda shafted. They could have milked multiple seasons out of them if they wanted to. They had the opportunity to create their own entire cast of villains that could potentially become iconic rouges in the franchise as a whole, like Diggle is now a comics character as well. And it was a mythology that was not only totally unique to Arrow, but even justified the use of such an outdated weapon to some extent.

That would be a show I'd be very excited to watch. I have no desire to watch a second rate batman, especially when Scott Snyder and other writers are absolutely killing it with Batman comics, while Green Arrow had 1 great writer in the entire new 52 run so far out of 3 and made a few appearances in an offshoot justice league comic. If I want good green arrow stuff, my options are far more limited than batman, so why not develop the unique property you have? I could understand wanting to use some bigger villains like Deathstroke just to get the franchise's feet off the ground, but by season 3, they have no reason to still be relying on Batman the way a healthy person fakes a disability for a welfare check.
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Two things.

1) Lemire started on Green Arrow in 2013. Arrow started in 2012.

2) This season seems to be completely about Oliver dealing with the Batman problem.
 
Thought the episode was great. I just wanted Laurel to call Ollie out on his "He was a killer" thing. Ollie was a fucking murderer S1. Where does he get off telling other people shit?
 
They really need to do something with Diggle and a disguise of some sort, i mean good god at the start - we have Ollie in Green Arrow disguise, Roy in Red Arrow disguise and - Diggle in his streets and a crummy barely covering anything hood.

It just looks bloomin stupid now considering how often he joins them..
 
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They really need to do something with Diggle and a disguise of some sort, i mean good god at the start - we have Ollie in Green Arrow disguise, Roy in Red Arrow disguise and - Diggle in his streets and a crummy barely covering anything hood.

It just looks bloomin stupid now considering how often he joins them..
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I can see long term Diggle getting off team Arrow and joining Cadmus. Something terrible happens to his baby's mama, Oliver won't help him for some moral reason, he turns too Cadmus.
 
Boxing Glove Arrow was dope. And Roy finally having an actually useful flip! Also revealing that Wildcat was a vigilante previously and showing that he has more hand to hand skills than just straight boxing was exactly what was needed to quiet down some of the Anti-Laurel naysayers.
 
Man, I hate Oliver. It's cute how he's making a big deal out of Wildcat killing someone when only 2 years ago he was killing left and right.

Hey guys Roy killed Sara! We totally didn't confirm Ra's killing her a while back when we first showed him off but let's drag this murder mystery a while longer because we've got no ideas for story.

On the plus side, another Roy flip and it did something this time. He gets a new name and something is actually happening so that's cool.

"Don't abandon me"
I wonder when that's going to happen.
 
Is Royliver a thing? So much tension between the two tonight. Hours Left plz respond

So for this season has felt like S2's weaker episodes. Good but the tension and surprise isn't really there.


also I totally called Roy and the police officer thing
 
Wreck-It Ralph said:
What was this all about? I didn't notice her at all.
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It's to illustrate that she's been tracking them. She's in the crowd outside Wildcat's gym after the body is found there and she's walking in the parking lot outside the casino when they show Diggle in the van. I didn't notice any other appearances.
 
Jest Chillin said:
It's to illustrate that she's been tracking them. She's in the crowd outside Wildcat's gym after the body is found there and she's walking in the parking lot outside the casino when they show Diggle in the van. I didn't notice any other appearances.
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Was she in costume or something? How did you guys know it was her before they even properly introduced her?
 
It's a credit to Amell that despite the show having spent so little screen time on the Roy/Oliver relationship that I believed him when he reassured Roy that he wouldn't abandon him. I hope the show continues to explore those two because Roy desperately needs an emotional arc at this point.

The flashbacks this season continue to be a drag. There just isn't a lot of tension there and the new characters are boring.
 
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