markofhavoc
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I get you, but I don't feel it's the same. I've seen people get hardcore fucked over from cheating, one day, the other shoe is going to drop
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Ashley Madison infidelity site's customer data stolen
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I get you, but I don't feel it's the same. I've seen people get hardcore fucked over from cheating, one day, the other shoe is going to drop
Completely agreed. Some disgusting answers in this thread.
Moff
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0 would be my guess. I have no idea how you come to that conclusion. do you seriously think being gay is as morally wrong as hurting your partner by cheating?
He's comparing this to the recent Gawker article in which a CEO was allegedly soliciting a gay escort and was outed as a result. He had a wife and kids. The overwhelming GAF response was that Gawker was a monster for publishing it and it was no business of anyone's but the family if he was cheating on his wife.
Very different reaction to the situation in this thread.
Cybrwzrd
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You are missing the point. It isn't your place to be the moral police.
That's not an excuse.
Cybrwzrd
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Yes. That was another example of what I am referring to.
The Albatross
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Life imitates art, especially after last night's True Detective.
John Kowalski
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They don't know what identity theft entails. I mean, how many on gaf know someone who had their credit information stolen, used, or kept for blackmailing purposes? They know what cheating is, have perhaps partaken in it or been victims of it so they have strong opinions about. Plus, it's more "important" to say that you're not ok with cheating than it is to say that you're not ok with identity theft. Don't take it the wrong way. I doubt they have actually considered their words.
Wikipedia has a nice bit on that iirc. I don't believe the number ever goes above 40%, which iirc was related to unmarried couples.
(Reposting as it proably got lost at the bottom of the last page)
Lot of assumptions being made in this thread.
Site 'specializes' in helping people cheat on their spouses. Specializes. Not requires. Which means as there are an unknown amount of people who use this site who are a) single, b) married but have the ok form their spouse to be there, or c) signed up once fully intending to cheat, sent a few messages out, came to their damn senses before meeting anyone and deleted their account ( except not really apparently) and never looked back. Lets say 70% of the site were actually scum sucking cheaters. What's 30% of 37 million? Hell lets say 90% were cheaters and the other ten fell into the exceptions I gave. Did they 'deserve' to have their personal details stolen? Or are they just acceptable losses to the GAF High Horse Calvary?
Lot of assumptions being made in this thread.
Site 'specializes' in helping people cheat on their spouses. Specializes. Not requires. Which means as there are an unknown amount of people who use this site who are a) single, b) married but have the ok form their spouse to be there, or c) signed up once fully intending to cheat, sent a few messages out, came to their damn senses before meeting anyone and deleted their account ( except not really apparently) and never looked back. Lets say 70% of the site were actually scum sucking cheaters. What's 30% of 37 million? Hell lets say 90% were cheaters and the other ten fell into the exceptions I gave. Did they 'deserve' to have their personal details stolen? Or are they just acceptable losses to the GAF High Horse Calvary?
Shin Kojima
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I would only feel bad for the people in example B. Acceptable losses like you said.
Then there's the fact that the identity theft will affect the spouse that was cheated on, too.
dreamcastmaster
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Yes, but don't let the truth get in the way of kiddy GAFs Insecurity soapbox about cheaters.
Anyone have an Ashley Madison account to find this out?
If you're married, legally and recognized as such by your government, then it is no different than a contract.
It should be illegal to breach contract by cheating. Not jail time mind you, but stiff monetary penalties.
The spiritual ramifications will depend on your own brand of faith, but at the very least universally, you should feel icky for doing it.
It should be illegal to breach contract by cheating. Not jail time mind you, but stiff monetary penalties.
The spiritual ramifications will depend on your own brand of faith, but at the very least universally, you should feel icky for doing it.
Poodlestrike
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Couldn't happen to a nicer group of people.
(But seriously tho, hacking is bad).
(But seriously tho, hacking is bad).
The Lamonster
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Doesn't this sort of already exist, in divorce?
Yes. I'm really just reiterating.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Pay to have your data removed? Is that even legal?
Not sure, but paying for something you actually aren't getting sure sounds illegal to me.
Cheaters never win, as the old saying goes. I do feel bad for the unexpected turmoil this hack is going to bring to a lot of families and long-term relationships.
The Internet has done so many good and bad things for humanity. This is the latest example of the bad. I kind of hate the Internet sometimes.
Nothing, they're just scum.
But What If This Is The Consequences?
dreamcastmaster
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Yes, it's an administration/processing fee. Common in many businesses that like to fuck over their customers.
The problem is, they never really deleted anything; THAT in and of itself, I would think, is illegal.
PandaShake
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37 million..
Good time to be a divorce lawyer.
Good time to be a divorce lawyer.
Why wouldn't you? Possible hacking aside, surely people who are genuinely making accounts on this site probably aren't expecting anyone, their partner of all people, to recognize/identify them.
dreamcastmaster
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Credit card validation.
I love how you think that your opinion is so unique and deserving of attention that you chose to post it twice just in case some people missed it.
I think you have to pay to actually use it.
Add in gay couples being allowed to marry in all 50 states, it's been a real good year for divorce attorneys.
privitsan02
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Well marriage can be quite depressing. Usually when its forced.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
lets please not celebrate this guys
Mammoth Jones
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This. I don't cheat. I hate the idea of infidelity. I can think what I want about cheating and people that cheat.
But none of that should be relevant when someone's personal information has been compromised like this.
Doesn't make it "OK" because they're terrible cheaters.
manfestival
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thieves stealing from scumbags
Not claiming moral superiority but I dont blame someone for praising the police if I get caught doing something illegal and really stupid
Not claiming moral superiority but I dont blame someone for praising the police if I get caught doing something illegal and really stupid
Orbis Tabula
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I have a hard time cheering on identity theft, even if the victims are "bad people."
You head it here first, folks. Identity theft is okay if you happen to post on a site the thrives have a moral objection too! Didn't partake in the action they dislike on said site? too bad. Colltaeral damage happens, yo.
Yeah, I thought about that but then figured I'd be willing to go buy a $100 visa prepaid card and fill that info in.
To me signing up for this site would be the same as signing up for the silk road site where you can buy drugs. I wouldn't want anything tying back to my real life if possible.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Even if a prison lost the personal data of its inmates it would still be wrong.
The target of the data theft doesn't really matter. It's still data theft.
The target of the data theft doesn't really matter. It's still data theft.
Moff
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I know perfectly well what kind of point you were trying to make, I did not miss it. it was just a terrible example because there is nothing morally wrong with being a homosexual, that's no place for a "moral police" either way.
so why would the same people who play the "moral police" here have anything against homosexuals? obviously an identity theft against gays would be the exact same thing as an identify theft against heterosexuals.
Dusk Soldier
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The way web servers backup data, it's virtually impossible to really delete anything.
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Jesus Christ.
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