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Australian Survivor: Bigger. Longer. Louder.

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Thanks channel 10.

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"We have the Australian sole survivors first tv interview ever!"

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As she goes up against a former professional cricketer and commentator.

Sigh.

Anyway good season, ruined a bit by too many of the players knowing the game too well. Had they come in with less pre-conceived ideas, they could have made it a lot more interesting.
 
Terrible final tribal council, terrible winner, though probably the best of the two.

I hope the casting and production teams learned a lot from this season.

This season as a whole felt like it was produced by accountants, and not creative people. Starting from the fact they had 24 contestants and 55 days to keep the cost per episode/broadcast hour down. Then having a tribal council with no voting after a quit, having weird twists that served no benefit, etc. They probably had a strict schedule of challenges, twists, events written down even before casting, and then just followed the plan, regardless what happened in the game. I don't think any single twist itself was too overpowered, but the producers should have changed up things on the fly when it started getting too boring and onesided.
 
saunderez said:
I felt like the jury, disbelieving the fact that
her
argument was so solid I would've voted for
her
too.
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Yup. I still think she made some really dumb and infuriating moves, but she earned a lot of respect from me during the last tribal council.

She 100% deserved to win it over Lee. Pretty much everything was stacked against her and everyone completely underestimated her too, yet she still won.

EDIT:
And a big fat LOL at El being the only one to vote for Lee. El was terrible. She should have gotten the boot ages ago.
 
Watched the finale, but I didn't avidly follow the series. Was on in the background while playing games or doing something else quite often though. I tuned in and out

My uneducated take on who won is
Kristy didn't seem like the sharpest knife in the draw, but she totally proved me wrong, with a much more compelling case to the jury. Good on her. Also, I lol'd when cricket guy was checking out army girl after she had scrubbed up. I think they've since hooked up in the real world
 
That final challenge was amazing. Both epic and emotional.

In general, really solid last episode. US producers should take some notes, they managed to create 90 minutes of compelling content with only 3 contestants left and without live segments with Jeff doing stupid interviews to the crowd. Really looking forward to next season they definitely have the foundations to be as good or even better than the american version. Really cool challenges, and the extended minutes for some of the episodes really gave a good impression.
 
llehuty said:
That final challenge was amazing. Both epic and emotional.

In general, really solid last episode. US producers should take some notes, they managed to create 90 minutes of compelling content with only 3 contestants left and without live segments with Jeff doing stupid interviews to the crowd. Really looking forward to next season they definitely have the foundations to be as good or even better than the american version. Really cool challenges, and the extended minutes for some of the episodes really gave a good impression.
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Kill the bullshit nonelims. 2-part episodes are fine. Those are not.
 
Holy shit. Like seriously, holy fucking shit! The quality of the finale almost makes up for the shitty second half of the season. I just finished watching 5 minutes ago, and I'm still in disbelief. It was a magnificently edited, composed, and generally well put-together 90 minutes of TV. (Random note: I feel like this entire season has had better music/composing than the American Survivor).

First off, the challenge. I can't remember a more epic final challenge in any season of Survivor!
When Kristie was pleading for her life with Lee, I got goosebumps. Seeing each one of them writhe around on the ground with massive cramps really demonstrated the difficulty of such a challenge, more so than any other I can remember.

I was waiting for the jury to completely decimate Kristie at the final tribal, but her demeanour and confident answers showed a completely different side of her. Lee, on the other hand, looked extremely sheepish and he owned absolutely nothing. It was absolutely pathetic given his performance in the game leading up to that. I mean even Lee's bro Sam voted for Kristie! Goddamn. I still think she was bullshitting on her so-called "strategy" but hey, it convinced the jury so it's hard to fault her overall.
 
Agree about the that final challenge. It evoked some odd feels out of me at the end. I jokingly said going into it 'now stand and hold onto this post.... 24 hours later' in reference to the final challenge of the first American season.

6 and half hours was a lot longer then I thought, when I found out they had to stand on those little posts. Epic indeed. That couldn't have been good for Lee's already buggered knees and back
 
Holy shit....that had to be the saltiest jury I have seen to buy the lies she was selling.


Outplay outwit outlast?

What criteria were the jury using? She was a player that wouldn't make a move or work with anyone. I guess with a horrible season a horrible winner is what is expected. She did nothing to justify her spot in the final and was carried there.

If Lee had watched a single season of survivor beforehand he may have understood how a final jury went and could have called her out as a goat.
 
AndrewPL said:
Winner spoilers:
She did nothing to justify her spot in the final and was carried there.
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Well,
she won the last immunity challenge and wasn't voted out as opposed to the jury members, that seems like enough justification. I also thought that she was setting herself to failure with the final three configuration she chose, but she ended up doing what she needed, winning that last challenge.

I think she really presented a good case for the jury, even if most of it was bullshit.. It also helped that Lee didn't have a very good showing there.
 
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All goddamn season this has been all I can think.
 
llehuty said:
Well,
she won the last immunity challenge and wasn't voted out as opposed to the jury members, that seems like enough justification. I also thought that she was setting herself to failure with the final three configuration she chose, but she ended up doing what she needed, winning that last challenge.

I think she really presented a good case for the jury, even if most of it was bullshit.. It also helped that Lee didn't have a very good showing there.
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Totally agree. The last tribal was won not on how the game was played for 55 days but due to Lee not making a case for his actions and strategies.

Sorry but saying your strategy is not working with anyone, not making a move (big or small) but winning the last immunity is not worthy of a survivor champion. Her argument was that she wasn't in a position to do anything was bull, the Jury knew it but were just way to salty to vote in the spirit of survivor...I guess that what happens when the vast majority of contestants aren't actually fans (even if they call themselves super fans).

As badly as Lee played it, he was 100x more in the game than Kristi was.
 
That was a very unsatisfying ending. Horrible, horrible winner. Ignoring that she was saved from being voted out in the round where Sue was kidnapped to Saanapu...she just made so many boneheaded decisions. Voting out Rohan and dooming that tribe to repeated visits to Tribal when she was in the minority was baffling, given that she would be in the hotseat if they continued to lose. Constantly opting for the path of least resistance almost to her detriment...she seriously made this win much harder on herself than it needed to be. Top it all off with relying on winning immunity for the first time in the season against the two biggest immunity threats in the F5...what was she thinking?

Granted, I wouldn't have been happy with any of the F3 winning, but Kristie's FTC arguments really rubbed me the wrong way. She straight-up lied her way through it. And it wasn't even the funny 'Todd tells Jean-Robert what he wants to hear kind of lie' - it was such a blatant revisionist version of events to the point that it was kind of gross and felt against the spirit of the game.

She said that she found out Phoebe was coming for her on Vavau, and flipped it back on her...when we saw that this was Kate and Connor coming to Kristie and telling her Phoebe was after her and they wanted to boot her. Kristie really had little to do with that. It was 2-2 at best and up until that point Phoebe had Kristie believing that Kate was with them and that she wasn't allowed to talk to her.

She said that it was her intention for ex-Vavau and ex-Saanapu to be decimated leaving an all-Aganoa F3. What? By her own admission, she didn't have any control in the game. She wasn't really part of any alliances and just tagged along with the majority, so saying that is utterly meaningless? "I hoped that it would be an all-Aganoan F3 and it happened...so my strategy worked!" Seriously, what the hell.

I believe Lee lost the game at FTC. He didn't even really mention what he did at all. He didn't say that he was in the alliance that essentially controlled the merge. Or that he had to integrate into said alliance after swapping into a minority position. Or that it was incredible that he wasn't taken out earlier considering he was one of the biggest physical threats out there. Instead he rattled on about honesty and integrity and made apologies. It was a disaster. Him being a wealthy ex-cricketer likely also had something to do with it.

With that said, I still am glad that Lee lost. It sends a good message to Season 2 players. The guy who was all about mateship and integrity (as long as it was convenient anyway) didn't win. If he had won it would spur on more people to follow that example, and that is not at all what I'd want to see.
 
So, per Flick-
El would have likely beat both Kristie/Lee in the end.

That certainly explains
Kristie's F4 decision- she may have had her eye on going to F2 w/ Lee.
 
AndrewPL said:
Totally agree. The last tribal was won not on how the game was played for 55 days but due to Lee not making a case for his actions and strategies.

Sorry but saying your strategy is not working with anyone, not making a move (big or small) but winning the last immunity is not worthy of a survivor champion. Her argument was that she wasn't in a position to do anything was bull, the Jury knew it but were just way to salty to vote in the spirit of survivor...I guess that what happens when the vast majority of contestants aren't actually fans (even if they call themselves super fans).

As badly as Lee played it, he was 100x more in the game than Kristi was.
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It sort of felt like a pity vote. "None of us thought you'd make it this far. Here."
 
I just started this the other day, first 15 minutes nearly lost me but damn it turned around quick.
Man if the pacing stays the same and the crew becomes more experienced this could be amazing.
 
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