People ignore RT and think it's not the holy grail of reviews. Cinemascore is I believe at the same grade as A1.
The answer is in decades upon decades of comics runs. Bendis' Daredevil vs. Fraction/Brubaker's Iron Fist vs. Warren Ellis' Nextwave vs. Christopher Priest's Black Panther etc.
Personally, their Netflix shows are way more interesting to me. Daredevil felt like a comics arc, rather than superhero tropes in a summer action flick. I hope the quality at least meets that level in the next shows.
Is it a better movie than the first?
Yeah, I see what you're saying, but to be honest...what do you want a comic book movie to do differently? Character is boss, meets enemy that is stronger, digs deep, shit blows up, hero saves the day.
It's a better film, but a worse event.
Safe to say that it's not an event at all.It's a better film, but a worse event.
So you suggest they cram a season worth of material on a 2hr film?
So you want an Avengers(an ensemble/team of hereoes) movie without an ensemble/team of heroes?
Some are serious and masking their blatant bias in snark.4 pages in and people are still holding onto the sarcasm. Amazing.
This was being passed around. Shows the affect of the fight at one theater chain apparently.
It's the only way to avoid the lashings
well one thing is they need to stop having one-liners in every scene..it just ruins tension when the avengers are fighting a genocidal robot to be cracking one liners the whole time
most of the time being hit and miss jokes..
No but when they make an avengers movie focus on the avengers only instead of adding a myriad of other characters like quick silver, scarlett witch, vision, etc etc. in an already crowded movie and then give lazy back stories for them. Quick silver was an absolute joke of a character and the forced philosophical discussions between vision and Ultron was embarrassingly childish and nowhere close to being as thought provoking as the film makers probably intended. Its almost like the movie was made with a quota of how much time each character should be given instead of focusing on making the character good.
No but when they make an avengers movie focus on the avengers only instead of adding a myriad of other characters like quick silver, scarlett witch, vision, etc etc. in an already crowded movie and then give lazy back stories for them. Quick silver was an absolute joke of a character and the forced philosophical discussions between vision and Ultron was embarrassingly childish and nowhere close to being as thought provoking as the film makers probably intended. Its almost like the movie was made with a quota of how much time each character should be given instead of focusing on making the character good.
But Scarlet Witch/Vision/etc ARE Avengers. You want them to just focus on the original six Avengers and no one else forever?
Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver and Vision are some of the most important long-runnimg Avengers in the franchise's history outside of film. And a revolving lineup is crucial to the concept.
The Avengers isn't supposed to be a Justice League clone. Like all the best Marvel stuff, it often explored the strangest characters and concepts. The true misfits. If there's anything I liked about AoU, it's how well they got that across. That's very Marvel to me.
Obviously the movie made (and will make) a ton of money but I can say that I'm way less hyped for this one that I was for the first. I think I'm going to see it next week but honestly, I don't really feel like it. And I've watched all of the Marvel movies.
Rewetting the first Avengers the other day and realising how cheap and corny it looks didn't help at all but I think I'm just tired of Marvel's style of doing things these days. I'm just not feeling it I guess.
I'm a huge MCU fan and I agree with this percentage.Rotten Tomatoes:
Avengers - 92%
AoU - 75%
Do you guys think the Phase 3 reveal hurt the film? Personally, it did deflate my hype. AoU went from the culmination of a mostly excellent Phase 2 to kind of a stopgap until the Civil War, Dr Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Infinity War awesomeness begins.
No wonder Marvel did did everything they had to to get Spider-Man back. That's a huge drop off from Avengers 1 OW
Do you guys think the Phase 3 reveal hurt the film? Personally, it did deflate my hype. AoU went from the culmination of a mostly excellent Phase 2 to kind of a stopgap until the Civil War, Dr Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Infinity War awesomeness begins.
Yeah, because they can timetravel now, no?No wonder Marvel did did everything they had to to get Spider-Man back. That's a huge drop off from Avengers 1 OW
No wonder Marvel did did everything they had to to get Spider-Man back. That's a huge drop off from Avengers 1 OW
Do you guys think the Phase 3 reveal hurt the film? Personally, it did deflate my hype. AoU went from the culmination of a mostly excellent Phase 2 to kind of a stopgap until the Civil War, Dr Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Infinity War awesomeness begins.
How is word of mouth worse then what Cinemascore indicates? Cinemascore score is word of mouth. More than GAF impressions or reviews tend to be a true indication of WOM.The real test will be how it does next weekend. Remember the first Avengers had a +50% drop in its second weekend and still pulled in over 100MM, the biggest second weekend ever. If indeed the fight had as big of an impact as they are saying, the second weekend should hold better to bring in the audience it lost.
Of course, word of mouth isn't as good as the Cimemascore seems to indicate, but there really isn't any competition until Mad Max on the 15th. A 75-80MM second weekend seems likely.
The first Avengers didn't see any serious competition until well into June. This year things are stacked. Mad Max, Poltergeist, Tomorrowland (which will tank), San Andreas, Entourage, Insidious 3, Spy, and Jurassic Park. That's just through June 12.
The other test will be how Ant Man does. People thought GOTG was going to be a stretch and it surprisingly held, better than the core MCU films. But if Ant Man does what I think it will, sub-200MM, a lot of Marvel and DC execs will be pretty nervous about Civil War, BvsS and if the bubble done break.
This was being passed around. Shows the affect of the fight at one theater chain apparently.
Do you guys think the Phase 3 reveal hurt the film? Personally, it did deflate my hype. AoU went from the culmination of a mostly excellent Phase 2 to kind of a stopgap until the Civil War, Dr Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Infinity War awesomeness begins.
Do you guys think the Phase 3 reveal hurt the film? Personally, it did deflate my hype. AoU went from the culmination of a mostly excellent Phase 2 to kind of a stopgap until the Civil War, Dr Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Infinity War awesomeness begins.
some people did. others went to sports bars and spent hundreds on alcohol instead.I learned from this thread that people payed 100$ to see a boxing match.
After hearing a brief summary of the fight the alcohol was definitely a better investment than the match itself.some people did. others went to sports bars and spent hundreds on alcohol instead.
I learned from this thread that people payed 100$ to see a boxing match.
Do you guys think the Phase 3 reveal hurt the film? Personally, it did deflate my hype. AoU went from the culmination of a mostly excellent Phase 2 to kind of a stopgap until the Civil War, Dr Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Infinity War awesomeness begins.
Captain America Civil War will open at 80 or 90 million domestic and 250 million internationally and go on to pull in about a billion worldwide. .