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[Dead]

I still love The Prestige.

well to be fair, like Sculli said the trend started with TDK. It, Inception and TDKR all suffer on repeat viewings.

Prestige actually holds up really well.

 

[Kyoufu]

I love TDKR.

It's flawed, but it's still awesome. All thanks to Bane.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Bane is a shitty villain. He's entertaining in the same way Arnold's Mr. Freeze is.

 

[TrumanBurbank]

Bane is a shitty villain. He's entertaining in the same way Arnold's Mr. Freeze is.

That's just absurd. Bane has some fantastic moments.

Unless you are trolling me. I can't even tell anymore on this site.

 

[Doctor Decimate]

and cue the people who STILL thinks it's cool to say Batman Begins is the best one

 

[Solo]

and cue the people who STILL thinks it's cool to say Batman Begins is the best one

The truth never goes out of style.

 

[way more]

and cue the people who STILL thinks it's cool to say Batman Begins is the best one

This whole time I didn't realize that was just a troll thing. I thought people actually meant it, I got played.

 

[Lebron]

and cue the people who STILL thinks it's cool to say Batman Begins is the best one

Well, it's the only one that was actually good and rewatchable. So it makes sense.

 

[Doctor Decimate]

Well, it's the only one that was actually good and rewatchable. So it makes sense.

maybe if you can ignore that the last half comes from a much stupider movie and it has about 20 villains, only one of which is actually fleshed out (barely) while giving too much screen time to a hilariously stilted romance

 

[.GqueB.]

Wasn't his sole objective stealing the gold?

That quote was more about the sentiment itself than the specifics of Die Hard with a Vengeance. To put it simply:

"Blood is blood"

Some show... maybe the Wire. I forget.

 

[iuxion]

The truth never goes out of style.

I don't know if I'm going crazy, but didn't you love The Dark Knight Rises?

 

[Lebron]

maybe if you can ignore that the last half comes from a much stupider movie and it has about 20 villains, only one of which is actually fleshed out (barely) while giving too much screen time to a hilariously stilted romance

20 villains you say? I need to go rewatch that.

 

[Solo]

maybe if you can ignore that the last half comes from a much stupider movie and it has about 20 villains, only one of which is actually fleshed out (barely) while giving too much screen time to a hilariously stilted romance

This describes both TDK and TDKR more than BB.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Solo]

I don't know if I'm going crazy, but didn't you love The Dark Knight Rises?

I really liked it, yes. Doesn't change the fact that BB is by far the best film in the trilogy.

 

[Anticitizen One]

I love how they worked so hard to make the first 2 movies realistic and then with the 3rd one they got super lazy

 

[Doctor Decimate]

20 villains you say? I need to go rewatch that.

willfully missing the point is fun, isn't it?

This describes both TDK and TDKR more than BB.

uh....no it doesn't.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Why did the whole Gotham police force go down the sewers to get trapped again?

They explain it in the movie. You should watch it sometime.

 

[Solo]

uh....no it doesn't.

Yep, it does.

maybe if you can ignore that the last half comes from a much stupider movie

BB: has the water vaporizer wackiness
TDK: has the city-wide sonar jank, the wretched ferry scene, and more monologues than you can shake a stick at
TDKR: Talia giving a masterclass in death scenes, Bane going out with a whimper, the twist that retroactively ruins Bane's arc, the fan service moment that confused half the fanbase

and it has about 20 villains, only one of which is actually fleshed out (barely)

BB: Rhas Al Ghul (developed), Scarecrow (developed to a much lesser degree), Falcone (undeveloped)
TDK: Harvey Dent (developed), Joker (undeveloped, but that's the character), Spawn, Marone, Good With Calculations guy, My Dogs Are Hungry Guy (all undeveloped)
TDKR: Bane, Daggett, Catwoman (all undeveloped)

while giving too much screen time to a hilariously stilted romance

BB: no romance
TDK: Bruce stalking/pining over Rachel
TDKR: Bruce randomly hooking up with Miranda with absolutely no precursor

Next.

 

[Scott32020]

TDKR: Bruce randomly hooking up with Miranda with absolutely no precursor.

He's a big guy

 

[grimshawish]

I also think having religious extremist types is fine in one film but these are two films involving the razing of Gotham where the enemy Batman face are willing to die for the cause; in fact they have no real motivation but the idea that evil must be punished.

Although I suppose Rises is more a revenge plot but its still tied into that.
It removes a lot of opportunity for variety in the series.

Batman doesn't do that much in the franchise yet Gotham is basically all about him.

 

[elostyle]

I thought the supposedly wicked prison turned out to be a rather sunny place to chill, get healthy and train with a very supportive community.

No idea how he managed to travel back and sneak into NYC either.

Honestly there was a lot wrong with the movie and it's easily the worst of the tree.

Why did the evil woman sleep with him and why did bane not care if he loved her so much?

 

[Salsa]

Tim Drake (one of the Robins from the comics) figured out who Batman was in similar fashion, as he was a great detective. Like Blake idolized Bruce, Drake idolized Dick Grayson, and was able to put it together by studying them and seeing something that gave it away.

I know, and it has nothing to do with what happens in this movie nor the way this "Robin" recognizes him

 

[Epcott]

No he's not. It's pretty obvious The Joker would've been included in TDK's sequel. TDK literally spells it out. Aaron Eckhart even said in an interview that as far as he knew the Joker was supposed to be in the sequel.

From what I read years ago, it was to involve the Joker's trial. It would have been glorious if that were true, I can picture Heath doing his best Joker routine in front of the judge.

They should have never went with Bane. Reminds me of Spiderman 3 when they decided to use Venom.

 

[Hot Coldman]

So I was just thinking during the last page "guess I should really watch Dredd, people really seem into it".

Then the Skyfall bashing began.

y'all need help

 

[jaxword]

Why did the evil woman sleep with him and why did bane not care if he loved her so much?

 

[sant]

I saw it once in the theatre, I'll be seeing it again when the blu ray is less than $10. My expectations are so low for a second viewing that I'll probably end up liking it.

 

[Doctor Decimate]

BB: has the water vaporizer wackiness
TDK: has the city-wide sonar jank, the wretched ferry scene, and more monologues than you can shake a stick at
TDKR: Talia giving a masterclass in death scenes, Bane going out with a whimper, the twist that retroactively ruins Bane's arc, the fan service moment that confused half the fanbase

Batman Begins goes from a compelling origin story to complete mediocrity as soon as somebody realized they couldn't just have Batman fighting the mob. The Dark Knight is FAR more consistent; there is no painfully obvious point where the movie switches gears into shittiness. TDKR has the same problems as Batman Begins does.

BB: Rhas Al Ghul (developed), Scarecrow (developed to a much lesser degree), Falcone (undeveloped)
TDK: Harvey Dent (developed), Joker (undeveloped, but that's the character), Spawn, Marone, Good With Calculations guy, My Dogs Are Hungry Guy (all undeveloped)
TDKR: Bane, Daggett, Catwoman (all undeveloped)

Henri Ducard is developed. Ra's al Ghul is not. he simply shows up to say "I'm alive, I'm evil, let's get this action movie plot started" and it's unbelievably disappointing. Scarecrow is as shortchanged as Falcone, I don't know who you're trying to kid. and then you have the completely throwaway plot with the Gotham police; calling that "undeveloped" is fucking generous.

there's a difference between a villain and a background character who exists as a means to move the plot along. this is what Maroni and Daggett are. they don't NEED to be developed because the plot does not demand it. the Hong Kong guy i'll give you, but listing random henchmen (Dogs Guy) and unimportant cannon fodder (Spawn) as undeveloped villains only shows how far you're reaching.

Bane gets more than his fair share of screen time and development as a villain. Catwoman is, yes, pointless.

BB: no romance
TDK: Bruce stalking/pining over Rachel
TDKR: Bruce randomly hooking up with Miranda with absolutely no precursor

in what way is Rachel Dawes not the Token Love Interest of Batman Begins? she exists as a studio mandated plot point. she's a nothing character whose only purpose is to subject us to what Katie Holmes considers acting. at least she plays an important role in The Dark Knight, and Miranda's role in TDKR hardly takes up much screentime.

 

[Aurongel]

...and unimportant cannon fodder (Spawn) as undeveloped villains only shows how far you're reaching.

Call me stupid, but who was Spawn in TDK?

 

[Solo]

Call me stupid, but who was Spawn in TDK?

Gambol.

 

[Doctor Decimate]

Call me stupid, but who was Spawn in TDK?

the one who's not The Joker in this image

 

[Guzim]

Call me stupid, but who was Spawn in TDK?

Gambol.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Bruce Wayne getting back to Gotham I have no problem with, but Joker taking down Michael Jai White that easily is a logic leap I just can't make.

 

[Aurongel]

Gambol.

Yeah, that's the only antagonist I could think of that wasn't mentioned.

Some Wikipedia detective work cleared up that reference for me, thanks.

 

[Solo]

Of all the flaws, plot holes and leaps of logic in TDKR, and there are a lot, Bruce getting back to Gotham isn't one of them. BB established that he spent 7 years living and travelling the world among criminals. He obviously didn't forget his education and used those skills and connections to get back to Gotham.

 

[bud]

Of all the flaws, plot holes and leaps of logic in TDKR, and there are a lot, Bruce getting back to Gotham isn't one of them. BB established that he spent 7 years living and travelling the world among criminals. He obviously didn't forget his education and used those skills and connections to get back to Gotham.

it's like poetry.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Of all the flaws, plot holes and leaps of logic in TDKR, and there are a lot, Bruce getting back to Gotham isn't one of them. BB established that he spent 7 years living and travelling the world among criminals. He obviously didn't forget his education and used those skills and connections to get back to Gotham.

Or he just called Alfred from the city that wasn't far from the hole.

 

[la flama blanca]

The Dark Knight is overrated and Rises was just bad

AGREED

 

[Solo]

Or he just called Alfred from the city that wasn't far from the hole.

Alfred had left him by that point. Remember, Bruce caught feelings and kicked Alfred out?

 

[Lionel Mandrake]

 

[TheKaeptain]

Alfred had left him by that point. Remember, Bruce caught feelings and kicked Alfred out?

But the next time we see Bruce he is with Alfred. One thing I didn't like about TDKR was Alfred not being there to help the cops. Guerrilla warfare is that dudes specialty.

 

[Can Crusher]

I don't know which one is the better movie(BB or TDK, Rises sucks), but The Dark Knight is by far my favorite one.

I prefer the tone, the pacing, the direction, the characters, the music and the moments. Batman Begins is really good though.

Nolan fumbled Bane and that was a shame, because he did a good job with Raz and The Joker. He was probably kinda tired of the franchise.

 

[MrPink93485]

But the next time we see Bruce he is with Alfred. One thing I didn't like about TDKR was Alfred not being there to help the cops. Guerrilla warfare is that dudes specialty.

Uh, no he wasn't?

 

[bjb]

That scene ruined the movie for me and I lost all hope in Nolan as both a man and director.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

But the next time we see Bruce he is with Alfred. One thing I didn't like about TDKR was Alfred not being there to help the cops. Guerrilla warfare is that dudes specialty.

What are you talking about?

 

[Buckethead]

One of many of TDKR's plotholes.

 

[TheKaeptain]

What are you talking about?

Wait I am confused he wasn't there. I though he was for some reason.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

One of many of TDKR's plotholes.

What is?

Wait I am confused he wasn't there. I though he was for some reason.

Yeah, you don't see Alfred again until the end when he's at the graves.

 

[relaxor]

I don't know which one is the better movie(BB or TDK, Rises sucks), but The Dark Knight is by far my favorite one.

I prefer the tone, the pacing, the direction, the characters, the music and the moments. Batman Begins is really good though.

This is how I feel as well.
To me the trilogy ended up a lot like the Star Wars OT. The first and third movie are structurally similar and I prefer the first in both by far. Batman Begins contains a lot of key moments in the Batman story and it's thrilling to see them handled so competently. Like Empire, I prefer The Dark Knight because it's the darkest, saddest, and the most intellectual to me. I still think The Dark Knight is a really transcendent movie.

 

[Escape Goat]

What is?



Yeah, you don't see Alfred again until the end when he's at the graves.

Why didn't Batman use the eagles to drop the nuclear reactor into mount doom.

 

[way more]

Bruce Wayne getting back to Gotham I have no problem with, but Joker taking down Michael Jai White that easily is a logic leap I just can't make.

Apparenty if you slice a person with a pen knife in both cheeks they die in .2 seconds.

LOL, I pointed out moment of errors, me is master film critic! Suck it literary criticism.