Justice_Bolt
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I would back of it was coming to PS4..oh well.
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Banner Saga 3 Kickstarter launched ($200k goal)
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Who's stopping them?
Of course they can do what they want. And I'm doing what I want which is to be unimpressed by what they're doing.
Hooray, freedom!
They have a story to finish and feel it would suck if they couldn't offer the ending they have envisioned for fans who HAVE bought and played the two previous games.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
I didn't buy it because I didn't like the 1st game. The battles weren't to my liking and I'm a big SRPG fan.
I thought the presentation and story were fine.
AHA-Lambda
Member
I don't get the impression the 2nd sold that well
My thoughts exactly. They should have enough information about how well a third game will do.
Basileus777
Member
It's pretty bizarre to have several people saying that they should cancel the game instead of kickstarting it. But I guess people always go out of there way to find reasons to oppose crowdfunding.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
People asked them after they decided to publish the game on GOG, which was before it was finished.
Plus they first said they were "unable to obtain gog keys" even though gog offers them for free. Three months later they finally gave them.
Not really cs I want to be dealing with, don't have the time for it, and there are plenty of other games to play.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
They do. A third game without a Kickstarter will most likely bomb badly and ruin their dev team financially. However, if they do a successful Kickstarter and are able to defray costs that way, they'll be able to finish the series and maybe break even or even make a profit. And if the Kickstarter doesn't raise enough money, well, they can say they tried and do something else instead.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
It's not just about profit. It's also about giving the chance to people who are already invested in the story of 1 and 2 to get a conclusion. That's a whole lot better than just cutting it short, yar?
I don't see why they wouldn't keep their word - they gave us all copies of #2.
I've backed this for $20 anyway, just to show support - I'll give the spare copy to a friend or something.
Banner Saga 1 was amazing, 2 went under the radar because of no exposure. Hopefully this will create enough waves to fund it and keep the studio floated to start work on their next game - they've got talent, they deserve to keep making games.
afternoon delight
Member
Was not expecting another sequel so quickly, they like to work for sure.
The majority of kickstarter threads feature glaring misconceptions about Kickstarter, yes.
Hari Seldon
Member
Same. I felt like I got burned by the first game. I'm not sure why it got all the hype it did. And now it is way more crowded than when they launched the first game, with far better RPG options.
It's funny, I think Banner Saga 1 way overperformed because there was a bit of a kickstarter craze when they launched it. Then Banner Saga 2 way underperformed because of a variety of reasons, but their launch strategy wasn't the best.
My guess is that they understand the above and that is why the goal is relatively modest. They want the headlines as much as that last bit of funding.
Good luck to them but as someone who backed BS1 and played just a little I have 0 interest in this.
I'd throw in money for a single copy that I can gift to a friends and then some posters as add-on. The Backer one they sent out back in 2013 was seriously amazing:
Yup, although I imagine they'll need more money to do the music any justice with live performers (and the Kickstarter info seems to confirm that).
Triggerhappytel
Member
Didn't one of the company founders release a statement a few weeks ago saying that they felt like BS2 was overlooked in part because it looked similar to the first game and plenty of people hadn't had a chance to actually play the first, so weren't interested in buying the second? With that in consideration, rushing straight into BS3 seems like a pretty bad idea. I'm not sure how many people will want to support the third similar-looking game when its two predecessors have released in the last three years (one year if you're a console gamer).
It was marketed as a trilogy from the start, and backers over $50 were promised all three games. They want to finish what they started. Nothing wrong with that. I would assume that 200k is the minimum they need to do that and brake even. Otherwise from the sound of things it will be a struggle and real burden on them financially to finish the game.
There were a lot of people (myself included) that simply didn't know that BS2 released. I'm interested in the game and a potential 3rd.
They should find someone to support their marketing though, it's severly lacking.
I guess their lead up was the article that explained why BS2 flopped a few days back.
CecilRousso
Member
Or do this, the planned trilogy, do the game they want to do, and use this as a way to make it feasible even if it doesn't sell tons.
Finding a way to be able to make a game that might only sell about 100k copies and yet doesn't sink a studio, is a good thing for us all.
TBH I'm disappointed 2016 wasn't bigger for Kickstarter. We're finally starting to see some AAA tier indie development.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
I got that same poster, but it got damaged because the room I was in at the time had damp.
Would love a replacement that I could get framed.
Oh well
I got that same poster, but it got damaged because the room I was in at the time had damp.
Would love a replacement that I could get framed.
Oh well
You should write or contact them about it. They still have the source file probably.
Sequel didn't meet expectations but they want to finish the trilogy so why the fuck not? If people are willing to pay for it that's up to them
Yep. It's not like a well managed kickstarter hurts anyone, backers get their game, devs get to work on what they truly want, it's a win/win. Couldn't have said it better myself
What about the people who'd like to see the story finished?
Attempting a kickstarter hurts no one.
Yup, wasn't there originally but they changed it as some point during the campaign:
Currently for only $40 on this campaign you can get all three games. So even cheaper.
Not a bad idea.
I've sent them a message asking if I will be able to get a poster as an add-on rather than backing at the $100 level, so let's see.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
What the hell are they doing? After the 2nd bombed, why so soon?
Indies have to learn that, they fill a specific gameplay niche that gamers crave, which results in a kickstarter success (or not if gamers did not crave it). As soon as this is filled, they should develop another franchise, with different mechanics. Ex: Supergiant games
Indies have to learn that, they fill a specific gameplay niche that gamers crave, which results in a kickstarter success (or not if gamers did not crave it). As soon as this is filled, they should develop another franchise, with different mechanics. Ex: Supergiant games
It's a real shame that BS2 sold poorly enough that they had to go back, but it's far better that they run a Kickstarter rather than the series ending early or in an unsatisfactory way, or the studio just going under.
Either way, I'll be sending them some funds. Gorgeous looking games, and I quite enjoyed the gameplay and story.
Either way, I'll be sending them some funds. Gorgeous looking games, and I quite enjoyed the gameplay and story.
SomedayTheFire
Member
man, people really are still salty about kickstarter. what's the harm?
because they want to? http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-01-09-we-set-out-to-make-this-trilogy-we-cant-leave-the-story-unfinished
because they want to? http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-01-09-we-set-out-to-make-this-trilogy-we-cant-leave-the-story-unfinished
lordfuzzybutt
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IIRC, they spend almost all their money on game development so almost no resource left for marketing. Word-of-mouth didn't catch on so the series basically bombed.
But this is a good series, so there is absolutely no problem to do a crowdfunding.
Maybe people with no interest in this should stop complaining and gtfo and leave things to those who do?
But this is a good series, so there is absolutely no problem to do a crowdfunding.
Maybe people with no interest in this should stop complaining and gtfo and leave things to those who do?
I'd love to hear their response, this is the exact point that I'm at. Would you be so kind as to post it here or PM me? Thanks!
AnthonypUK
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Brought the first 2 on PS4
*looks down, see's no confirmation of the finale on the platform they put it on that i got.*
*looks down, see's no confirmation of the finale on the platform they put it on that i got.*
dancrane212
Member
Brought the first 2 on PS4
*looks down, see's no confirmation of the finale on the platform they put it on that i got.*
Got a reply from them about console ports. They couldn't offer them as part of the kickstarter campaign but they still plan on having them launch simultaneously with the PC release depending on "development logistics and budget".
TheGameshark
Member
Might go for that Varl $100 tier. Kinda wish the physical art book was on the $100 tiers.
ThatStupidLion
Member
didnt banner saga 2 do not as well because they didnt market/advertise it enough? they thought that word of mouth of a sequel to the popular BS1 was enough I think. And in hindsight they realized that the kickstarting aspect of it provided a ton of awareness and kept it at the front of peoples minds.
everything else aside, im pretty sure this is a big reason why they went the KS route again... it's essentially "free" marketing.
happy to see them kickstart it. it'll allow them to gage how much interest is left in the franchise and where fans want it to go.
everything else aside, im pretty sure this is a big reason why they went the KS route again... it's essentially "free" marketing.
happy to see them kickstart it. it'll allow them to gage how much interest is left in the franchise and where fans want it to go.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Banner Saga first, second, third are basically one huge game divided into three and not three separate small games. They are basically trying to fulfill the promise by finishing the narrative.
Falchion
Member
Yep, I own both of them and they look awesome but I haven't had a chance to play them yet. Hopefully they'll get the funding they need to make 3 happen.
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I'm waiting for exact confirmation that I CAN get a poster or shirt as an add on, because I don't think it's entirely clear there, but it looks likely
brickarts295
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In they're defense they released 2 kickstarter titles, which can't be said about a lot of the kickstarters lately.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Banner Saga 2 came out in April of last year. I'd imagine they'd like to move on to their next project. Makes sense to try to finish the trilogy they promised first rather than start something completely new.
Shake Appeal
Member
In for $75.
That's at least what I owe them for all the hours of enjoyment I've got out of these breathtaking games.
That's at least what I owe them for all the hours of enjoyment I've got out of these breathtaking games.