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Batman AK PC Perf Thread of DARKNESS, NO SETTINGS [30fps cap / intro removal in OP]
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therealminime
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Tried it briefly with all settings turned on, as that's what I've always tested and it's still rough. It's dramatically better than at launch but not ideal. At launch I'd dip around between 60 and as low as about 20fps while in the batmobile or flying around (980ti, 16GB RAM, i7-2600k @4.5, Win 10). Yesterdays tests I was at 60 a lot more and the dips are now going no lower than 45fps (this is at 1440p) but that still sucks for playing. Constantly fluctuating between 45 and up to 60. I was also unable to get the framerate above 60, even if setting the frame cap to 90, this worked prior to yesterdays update. I can still play at 30fps without any issues, up to 4K. It just seems like this game was never meant to go over 30fps.
Schweinehund
Member
you can always buy it later and give it a try and then refund it again if it still doesn't work.
At this point I think it's an engine issue and they won't be able to fix it.
Awesome. i found the photomode. it was literally right there haha. Have to enable it in the game, not in the main menu. maybe thats why.
I am playing with settings to see what i can do with the game.
There are some serious pop ins here and there. event ho i have everything maxed out and the bar says i am still in the green.
That whole rain gif from earlier, is that really removed? the original looks pretty badass.
I am playing with settings to see what i can do with the game.
There are some serious pop ins here and there. event ho i have everything maxed out and the bar says i am still in the green.
That whole rain gif from earlier, is that really removed? the original looks pretty badass.
icecold1983
Member
yeah, just like at launch theres almost no effect of the rain going down surfaces anymore
They should've given us the option to toggle it off/on/full in the settings menu instead of forcing the lesser (downgraded) version down everyone's throat in order to try and improve performance.
I can't even conceive how such a trivial effect can have any measurable impact on performance. It seems so incredibly simple to me, no advanced simulation, the surface proprieties don't seem to impact how rain flows.
Very odd.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Not sure I want to even test it out at this point based on what I've heard. Around release, I was getting 45-60 out in the city, but 60 indoors, and the only stutter I was experiencing was while driving around (though on release day, it crashed a lot and was far worse).
If it's worse now, then I don't even know. Did you ever set any .ini files to read-only?
It's almost like it was a bad port that's been abandoned.
As I said in another thread this whole trainwreck could have been avoided, all it takes is a sensible approach to PC development. Consoles and PC do not share the same architecture so we can reasonably assume development practices are not the same, what works on consoles with unified memory may not work on PC or not provide the best results as evidenced here.
I don't put any blame on Rocksteady (they have done their job on the console versions), from where I'm standing this is all on WB who cheaped out and did not put their partner in the best conditions.
I agree it most likely doesn't affect graphics performance at all, but I'm thinking the people responsible for patching the game have somehow concluded a downgraded version would ease the streaming of assets and help with the stutter.
Spring-Loaded
Member
It's ultimately WB's fault, though the first release date being missed doesn't suggest Rocksteady properly met milestones. Everyone involved is responsible for the end product, and we won't know to what extent until the development history is revealed.
I doubt the potential profits would recoup the costs in that case. So, it's fair to say that AK will probably not be "fixed" for everyone. Although I have to say my experience with it has been good (very few crashes, satisfactory performance), it's a competent Batman game and I enjoyed even before the interim patch.
Do I wish it was even better ? Needless to say I do.
From what I heard (and maybe we - collectively - have already discussed this) it seemed like rocksteady could barely get the thing running months before the delayed release. Like single digit framerate stuff too.
Wouldn't be surprised if they had to focus all their time on consoles, IG got a really outdated build they had to work off of, and everyone just decided the PC version was just gonna be this, and by the time of the re-launch I wouldn't be surprised if they decided that spending money on it wouldn't be worth the cost so they're just hoping that in a few years' time the hardware on PC improves so much that people buying it on a Steam sale the future will just brute force the thing.
icecold1983
Member
cross posting a comparison i did with the new october patch
new game, not a save load
ps4
can someone provide a console screen from the current build to confirm they didnt actually "fix" the rain on consoles
also, i dont remember if this has always been the case, but even the downfall of rain seems much lower and less dense than on consoles. consoles often seem like a massive storm, whereas the pc version seems like a light sprinkle
new game, not a save load
ps4
can someone provide a console screen from the current build to confirm they didnt actually "fix" the rain on consoles
also, i dont remember if this has always been the case, but even the downfall of rain seems much lower and less dense than on consoles. consoles often seem like a massive storm, whereas the pc version seems like a light sprinkle
I reaaaaally don't feel like reinstalling 30GB... I'll keep that as a last resort. How do I backup my saves?
matrixman92
Member
has anyone with windows 10 actually first hand confirmed that it runs better with 12 gb of ram
I'm playing the game full screen, 1080p with everything on normal except level of detail which is set to high. I get an almost consistent 60fps. I see it drop to as low as 47fps during Batmobile sections. Any gliding and on foot stuff can drop to at least 55. I know my system can probably handle a lot better than that but I had to make a compromise to get a decent frame rate. The devs on the other hand shouldn't have to.
Windows 8.1
GTX 970
i7 4970K @4.0
Installed on a 7200rpm HDD
Windows 8.1
GTX 970
i7 4970K @4.0
Installed on a 7200rpm HDD
blackdevil
Member
cross posting a comparison i did with the new october patch
new game, not a save load
ps4
can someone provide a console screen from the current build to confirm they didnt actually "fix" the rain on consoles
also, i dont remember if this has always been the case, but even the downfall of rain seems much lower and less dense than on consoles. consoles often seem like a massive storm, whereas the pc version seems like a light sprinkle
these are two pics i took yesterday on PC. Rain looks pretty good here, used a filter in photomode but that`s it:
Got some screenies.
Hmm... it kinda sucks that i can't get this to run on 4k properly. it hiccups quite often with all the nvidia works. Not sure if they make much of a difference, except for the smoke.
I did notice some trickling of water when i got the suit. but its not as prominent as in teh gif.
I feel like everytime something triggers a cutscene the water starts to fall on the suit as if it was dry. So its not easy to spot.
Hmm... it kinda sucks that i can't get this to run on 4k properly. it hiccups quite often with all the nvidia works. Not sure if they make much of a difference, except for the smoke.
I did notice some trickling of water when i got the suit. but its not as prominent as in teh gif.
I feel like everytime something triggers a cutscene the water starts to fall on the suit as if it was dry. So its not easy to spot.
weird, when i run the game at 1080p i only get 56% GPU usage and my frame rate fluctuates a lot while gliding or driving, change it to 1440p and i get 96% GPU usage most likely due for the extra res but my frame rate stays 95% of the time locked at 60, only drops when driving and making havoc all over the place
Garrett Hawke
Member
The first few seconds of the Batgirl DLC are locked to 30fps, lol
Mid fight it suddenly switches back to what your setting is at
Mid fight it suddenly switches back to what your setting is at
I'd say get a refund and if - which is a VERY big if at this point - they fix the game almost completely in the future, you can always buy it again. At this point Arkham Knight - and more specifically WB - isn't worth your money. And that pains me to say as a big Arkham fan.
Yea. been trying to get a refund. But i got my copy from GMG. apparently they are not honoring the refund after they released the last patch. =\ we'll see what happens.
icecold1983
Member
yeah thats how my rain looks too, like a light sprinkle. the rain on consoles looks like a downpour
It's a pre-rendered intro.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Nope, it was definitely gameplay
the cutscenes are encoded at 30fps but it was definitely gameplay. I was mid-fight, after a few seconds the 30fps lock disappeared. Happened both times I started it so not just a one off. Weird.SirMossyBloke
Member
It doesn't.
In fact after the first major patch it ran great for me. Smooth 60fps even in the batmobile.
Then I had to reinstall windows 10 for a few reasons and now it runs like shit again.
Winterblink
Member
According to Rock Paper Shotgun, GMG is honoring refunds according to WB's policy of the end of 2015.
Yep, just like Winterblink mentioned GMG has said they will be honouring refunds as well. And if by any chance customer service should give you trouble - which I don't expect them to - just forward them this link: http://steamcommunity.com/games/208650/announcements/detail/128710596369779495 - It's the official statement from WB.
Watched some videos of PS4... definitely doesn't look different from the rain on PC to me.
captainpat
Member
I don't know what this new patch did (I only launched the game once before the patches) but now I can't even launch or play the game in full screen. Apparently it's an issue that largely affects laptops.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Just went and loaded up Arkham City at max settings, 2x msaa, and 5k res, and it was almost constant 60fps. Wish AK ran even remotely as well.
dr_rus
Member
You do realize that Arkham City is a previous gen game, right?
SliChillax
Member
Do you also wish Arkham Knight looked like Arkham City? Which is a seriously inferior looking game?
JRW
Member
Does this look like normal GPU usage? I'm being serious because I'm not sure lol just seems strange the way the usage fluctuates like crazy.
I played Batman for a couple hours today and it ran pretty good, mostly 60fps with a few pauses/stutter but very acceptable, Instead of worrying about performance I was enjoying the game, It's turning out to be REALLY good so far (if you liked previous Arkham games).
GPU is an R9 290X 4GB
I played Batman for a couple hours today and it ran pretty good, mostly 60fps with a few pauses/stutter but very acceptable, Instead of worrying about performance I was enjoying the game, It's turning out to be REALLY good so far (if you liked previous Arkham games).
GPU is an R9 290X 4GB
Dictator93
Member
Does this look like normal GPU usage? I'm being serious because I'm not sure lol just seems strange the way the usage fluctuates like crazy.
I played Batman for a couple hours today and it ran pretty good, mostly 60fps with a few pauses/stutter but very acceptable, Instead of worrying about performance I was enjoying the game, It's turning out to be REALLY good so far (if you liked previous Arkham games).
GPU is an R9 290X 4GB
That either is GPU throttling due to temperature / power (weird), or stuttering due to hitting a vram wall IMO.
What is your VRAM usage in the game?
Honestly I'd choose City's last gen graphics at 60 fps over AK's stuttering mess in a heartbeat.
Does this look like normal GPU usage? I'm being serious because I'm not sure lol just seems strange the way the usage fluctuates like crazy.
I played Batman for a couple hours today and it ran pretty good, mostly 60fps with a few pauses/stutter but very acceptable, Instead of worrying about performance I was enjoying the game, It's turning out to be REALLY good so far (if you liked previous Arkham games).
GPU is an R9 290X 4GB
the R9 290x is a fucking nuclear reactor. It gets so hot. It's mostly capped at 84 if you're running Silent bios or 94 if you're running Performance bios. So if you card reaches that temperature, then it starts throttling to decrease its temperatures.
Seeing how you're running a custom fan profile with Afterburner, I suspect you are decreasing the fan speed manually so the fan speed doesn't scale with the heat.
I said "fuck it" and finally decided to start playing last night. To my surprise, the game runs well. There are some dips and small stutters in the framerate, but no outright hangs or dramatic freeze-ups like users have been posting video of. It's an imperfect 60fps, but it's 60fps. The game looks amazing as well.
I've got all the regular settings maxed out except texture quality, which doesn't seem worth going any higher on. For Gameworks I'm using the enhanced rain and light shafts, since they look noticeably better and don't amount to much of a performance hit.
The only real problem is that even after disabling chromatic aberration I can still see the shit all over the peripheral areas of the screen. I'm not sure if this is a glitch or if the setting only impacts the aberration in the center of the screen (Also, the Steam controller kind of sucks for this game so far).
This is the system I'm running. For being below 12GB I'm surprised I haven't hit any major snags:
Windows 10x64
i52500k (4.6ghz)
8GB RAM
GTX 970
I've got all the regular settings maxed out except texture quality, which doesn't seem worth going any higher on. For Gameworks I'm using the enhanced rain and light shafts, since they look noticeably better and don't amount to much of a performance hit.
The only real problem is that even after disabling chromatic aberration I can still see the shit all over the peripheral areas of the screen. I'm not sure if this is a glitch or if the setting only impacts the aberration in the center of the screen (Also, the Steam controller kind of sucks for this game so far).
This is the system I'm running. For being below 12GB I'm surprised I haven't hit any major snags:
Windows 10x64
i52500k (4.6ghz)
8GB RAM
GTX 970
JRW
Member
VRAM usage has topped out at a little over 3GB so it hasn't hit the 4GB barrier yet.
I tried manually setting the Fan speed to 95% just to see how GPU usage behaved but it's exactly the same (wild fluctuations) GPU temp doesn't exceed 61C @ 95% fan rpm, maybe I should try other games to be sure it's not just Batman, even if I just stand still in one spot for 5 minutes the gpu usage behavior doesn't change.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Yes, yes, I do.
Of course not. Don't be silly.
I think you both missed the intent of my post. AC, finally, is running as I would expect it to. AK is not. (Not saying AK should easily do 5k / 60) Maybe once/if they get sli working, but I dunno.
dr_rus
Member
I dunno. I'd say that AK is running as I would expect from a new gen open world game on my system. I'm basically above 60 in 2560x1600 most of the time with everything on max including NV's effects. I'd say that's pretty good.