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Batman: Arkham Origins PC Performance Thread
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ss_lemonade
Member
We have almost the same specs (4.6ghz 3570k here) but I wish I had a second 780 lol. So I'm guessing a single 780 should do fine maxed (with physx) on lower resolutions?
I don't have Origins yet but the Arkham City benchmark runs at a fluid 60fps maxed out at 1920x1080 (and 1440p if I remember correctly) on my 780. I guess this probably answers my question above but I wouldn't know how Origins runs yet.
doniewhalberg
Member
For sure, you should be good man, I see no significant performance drops there.
@Nethaniah, I doubt you would need it brother, if I'm fine with a 770 alone on high bar extremely chaotic moments, I think you'll be fine with a Titan. Unless your pushing for 4k res or something?
I wish I had SLI guys, you make me so jealous haha. I opted for a SSF build though, so it's off the table for now.
I have not tested that config, but it could help. Let us know if it works!
I'll give it a go once the game unlocks over here, i'm probably fine either way (60 atleast) but if i can go higher by putting in that extra card i'll be even happier.
Ok MSAA 8x basically cuts the FPS in half. Without it on, I get 65-70 FPS.
You will be fine. Try out 4x MSAA. 8x takes a huge performance hit at 2160p/4k, but 4x might be a lot better.
I am going to test out 2x SGSSAA and see how that does. Although I don't think it'll work in DX11.
I will say this: at 4k downsampled to 1080p, there is pretty much no aliasing. Looks extremely good.
batman2million
Member
How good is AMD on it's drivers turnaround? I know they're nowhere near Nvidia.
chickdigger802
Banned
So dx11 better here than AC?
doniewhalberg
Member
Absolutely. I commented on that bak up the thread, check it out
spoke about the games performance and compared to AC's DX11.most if not all of the streaming issues in Arkham City, specially while traversing the map, were "magically" fixed after SECUROM was disabled with the latest patch, is Origins not using that DRM ?
doniewhalberg
Member
Nope, just steamworks this time around.
Lostconfused
Member
I would like to know this as well. Physx and DX11 caused massive frame drops when trying to run Arkham City at 120 FPS.
Ok guys, I have good news and I have bad news:
The good news is - maybe it's just my setup, so take all of this with a grain of salt. Perhaps I'm wrong!
he bad news is - performance isn't nearly where I think it could be, IMO. At 1080p on two OC'd GTX 780's in SLI, maxed out, 4x MSAA, the game averages 90-120 FPS. Not bad, but I haven't even tested it out in the city yet. At 2160p (3840x2160) with everything maxed, no AA, it runs at 60-70 FPS. And with 8x MSAA at 2160p, it runs at around 40 average.
Is that great? Um, for me, sure. For average people with non-SLI setups? I don't know. Let me test without SLI.
Ok - tested without SLI. SLI scaling is definitely not at 100%. At 2160p with no AA with no SLI, I was seeing around 40-50 FPS average. So SLI is only 20-30 FPS faster... it makes it stay always over 60, but it's definitely not 100% scaling.
So it looks like Nvidia has some driver/profile fixing to do.
The good news is - maybe it's just my setup, so take all of this with a grain of salt. Perhaps I'm wrong!
he bad news is - performance isn't nearly where I think it could be, IMO. At 1080p on two OC'd GTX 780's in SLI, maxed out, 4x MSAA, the game averages 90-120 FPS. Not bad, but I haven't even tested it out in the city yet. At 2160p (3840x2160) with everything maxed, no AA, it runs at 60-70 FPS. And with 8x MSAA at 2160p, it runs at around 40 average.
Is that great? Um, for me, sure. For average people with non-SLI setups? I don't know. Let me test without SLI.
Ok - tested without SLI. SLI scaling is definitely not at 100%. At 2160p with no AA with no SLI, I was seeing around 40-50 FPS average. So SLI is only 20-30 FPS faster... it makes it stay always over 60, but it's definitely not 100% scaling.
So it looks like Nvidia has some driver/profile fixing to do.
I just watched my brother playing it with a modest 660 Ti (Gigabyte 3 GB factory overclocked) at a smooth and locked framerate with every setting maxed out except for TXAA (low) and "just" 1080p... the trick being framerate limited to 30 using Adaptive Vsync... but hey, 1080p rock solid 30fps is still amazing considering the eye-candy and PhysX high settings.
I have a 4670K, 8GB RAM, 770GTX 2GB. Looking at posts earlier on, I'm hoping it runs well. Doesn't unlock for another 3 hours, so I think I'll play it tomorrow.
By the way, I think my eyes are broken - I can't really tell the difference between AA and no AA at 1080p on a 23" screen. I was playing Sleeping Dogs with everything on max, and it ran at ~40fps. I turned off AA, and it doesn't dip below 60, and I couldn't tell you the difference.
Positive for me, I guess.
By the way, I think my eyes are broken - I can't really tell the difference between AA and no AA at 1080p on a 23" screen. I was playing Sleeping Dogs with everything on max, and it ran at ~40fps. I turned off AA, and it doesn't dip below 60, and I couldn't tell you the difference.
Positive for me, I guess.
Upgrade to new eyes. According to the newspaper a firm called Sarif Industries sells them.
I think that's kind of game dependent, though I do think the higher resolutions get the less NEED there is for AA. Jaggies are way more noticeable on displays where you could in theory pixel count by hand.
j0hnny_385
Member
Great thread. Was waiting for this. 
I'll post my impression tomorrow evening CET time (long day at work :/).
I own an i5 4670K + 7850 2GB, hope I can provide some useful info for folks with simillar rigs.
I'll post my impression tomorrow evening CET time (long day at work :/).
I own an i5 4670K + 7850 2GB, hope I can provide some useful info for folks with simillar rigs.
You can't turn off AA in Sleeping Dogs XD (only low, normal and ultra AA settings are possible). Maybe that's the reason.
keltickennedy
Member
I play at 1080p on a 24in screen and also don't worry that much about AA. 2x is the most I go or low or normal FXAA. Will even turn it off completely if I get a big boost in performance. The main things I go for is 1080p, high texture res, high fps.
I am hoping to push some tessellation with the game, since it makes the cape look really nice.
This is not strictly related to performance but i thought it would be nice to share.
In order to remove those god awful intro movies, you can remove the following:
SinglePlayer\BMGame\Movies\bac_logo.usm
SinglePlayer\BMGame\Movies\bac_logo_fra_PC.usm
SinglePlayer\BMGame\Movies\bac_logo_mp.usm
SinglePlayer\BMGame\Movies\bac_logo_PC.usm
Obviously create a backup/move to another folder. They do not contain anything relevant to the story.
In order to remove those god awful intro movies, you can remove the following:
SinglePlayer\BMGame\Movies\bac_logo.usm
SinglePlayer\BMGame\Movies\bac_logo_fra_PC.usm
SinglePlayer\BMGame\Movies\bac_logo_mp.usm
SinglePlayer\BMGame\Movies\bac_logo_PC.usm
Obviously create a backup/move to another folder. They do not contain anything relevant to the story.
-nostartupmovies switch works just as well.
velociraptor
Junior Member
How does this run on a 6950?
Loving the game so far, but man..I don't think the art holds up to the previous games. Textures felt really gritty and detailed in City but Origins seem to have went for a smoother, more stylized look.
Runs like a dream on 2xTitans, with mild hitching whenever it autosaves but moving the installation to a SSD might fix this?
Runs like a dream on 2xTitans, with mild hitching whenever it autosaves but moving the installation to a SSD might fix this?
What CPU and how much RAM do you have? I have the same card. But I'll be running it at 1080p.
Coolbgdog12
Member
I have a 2GB 7870 oc'd slightly, 8gb RAM and a 4100fx AMD CPU @ 4.1Ghz so I should get decent performance.
Some parts are, but from an art assets standpoint I think AC looks better. Better models and better texture density. That said, this is really well ported and the IQ is much better because of it. Really digging the TXAA implementation.
SRTtoZ
Member
Ok great thanks.
I also was reading in the OT that the cutscenes are better, anyone know what they mean by that? Nicer looking, or maybe better stylized?
Specs:
Phenom X4 II 955 Black Edition
Sapphire HD 7970 3GB
8GB RAM
At least for me, MSAA kills performance. Get in the high 30's to mid 40's with MSAA on and get great performance if I turn off AA or use FXAA. Initially I got that in the menus but it extends to the the game for me.
Other than that, I have everything maxed out and it runs really well, very happy with the performance. I lose frames outside but it still stays in the 50's for the most part....better performance than I got with AC and that's with all the DX11 stuff turned on.
As far as AA, I went with SMAA via Sweet FX and FXAA Low.
Phenom X4 II 955 Black Edition
Sapphire HD 7970 3GB
8GB RAM
At least for me, MSAA kills performance. Get in the high 30's to mid 40's with MSAA on and get great performance if I turn off AA or use FXAA. Initially I got that in the menus but it extends to the the game for me.
Other than that, I have everything maxed out and it runs really well, very happy with the performance. I lose frames outside but it still stays in the 50's for the most part....better performance than I got with AC and that's with all the DX11 stuff turned on.
As far as AA, I went with SMAA via Sweet FX and FXAA Low.
neoism
Member
Windows 8.1
i72600k@4.6
GTX 680 SLI
331.40 Drivers
Works excellent for the most part maxed out @1080p. One niggling issue is the game seems to pick up a perfect 60 FPS judder occasionally and pausing and unpausing seems to clear it up, but it crops back up after a couple minutes. I have tried both in-game Vsync and NVCP Vsync and both exhibit the issue. Anyone know what may be going on here?
i72600k@4.6
GTX 680 SLI
331.40 Drivers
Works excellent for the most part maxed out @1080p. One niggling issue is the game seems to pick up a perfect 60 FPS judder occasionally and pausing and unpausing seems to clear it up, but it crops back up after a couple minutes. I have tried both in-game Vsync and NVCP Vsync and both exhibit the issue. Anyone know what may be going on here?
batman2million
Member
So this is what I got:
win 7 64bit
i7 920 OC 3.4 ghz
12 gb ram
Asus r9 280x
Everything on full. FXAA high. and even phsyx on Normal I'm getting 70-90 fps. No screen tearing even with out vsync. @1080p
MSAA kills the framerate.
Run perfectly.
win 7 64bit
i7 920 OC 3.4 ghz
12 gb ram
Asus r9 280x
Everything on full. FXAA high. and even phsyx on Normal I'm getting 70-90 fps. No screen tearing even with out vsync. @1080p
MSAA kills the framerate.
Run perfectly.
This is really good to know. Arkham City was a mess without v-sync.
I was on AMD cards for a long time, got a GTX770 now though. So I can run PhysX off the same card and don't need an old 8800GTX to do physx for me?
I'm having some weird issues played the intro absolutely fine 60FPS, everything maxed, FXAA High. Started the main campaign as soon as you land sounds disappears in-game but not in the menu's. Restarting the Checkpoint just leads to the same thing. Restarted the whole game but now the resolution is fucked and when i manage to fix it the menu just slows to a crawl and the game more or less freezes.
Now every time i start the game i run into all of the above. :/ On a7970280X with the latest beta drivers.
Now every time i start the game i run into all of the above. :/ On a
i5 2500k, 8gb ram. I know its wasted but I don't have it overclocked. Still runs great.
AstroZombie
Banned
If I recall correctly MSAA and UE 3 don't get along very well.
Nice. My i7 4770k and 16GB of RAM should play this quite nicely.