Having the same feelings man, it isn't rocksteady and that's part of the problem.
And TXAA to me looks even worse then MSAA or SGSSAA for example even more washed out then FXAA.
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Batman Arkham Origins PC [Team Green] Exclusive Features (video)
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Having the same feelings man, it isn't rocksteady and that's part of the problem.
And TXAA to me looks even worse then MSAA or SGSSAA for example even more washed out then FXAA.
AMD is our friend. TressFX runs on Nvidia cars, none of that exclusive crap
Sentenza
Member
I think I'll wait first impressions and possibly even a demo for this.
I can't exactly point my finger at the problem, but there's something slightly off in all those trailers I've seen so far that makes me a bit wary about this not being on par with the previous games.
More specifically I can't shake the impression that something about the smoothness of the combat system went lost in process.
SJRB
Gold Member
Everything points out to this game being Arkham City 2.0, so if you enjoyed that one you will most likely enjoy this one as well.
Of all the post-process methods, SMAA is the pick of the bunch as far as my eyes are concerned, namely because it's comparable to FXAA in how well it reduces aliasing but manages to do its job without the texture blur associated with the latter.
SMAA or MSAA,but yeah for me it looks also better and sharper.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
And still no collector's edition. 
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
Member
And still no collector's edition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMlsueVECyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZo174y4nag
angular graphics
Banned
That doesn't sound right. You are probably wrong.
angular graphics
Banned
And what am I looking for there?
Dictator93
Member
Higher SMAA modes have a large temporal component similar to TXAA. THey do not have th e post resolve de-sharpening filter thing going though.
angular graphics
Banned
Worth noting that only 1 (AFAIK) game has used those, though.
It's not Nvidia-exclusive per se; although AMD has its own answer in the form of HDAO, either will work on the GPUs of the opposing manufacturer, but obviously HBAO is recommended for Nvidia GPUs and HDAO for AMD GPUs. If you have Far Cry 3, you can switch between them at leisure, although you may encounter some artefacting and presumably also a slight decrease in performance if you're using the the setting unintended for your card.
angular graphics
Banned
But what we have here is HBAO+, not HBAO. nvidia claims it's radically different, and it should be the best looking AO technique developed so far and also have the best visuals/performance of all.
nvidia said:
Unless the option was unavailable in SC:Blacklist (I haven't followed the release of the game) for AMD cards or it performed poorly (compared to nvidia cards) there's no reason to believe it won't work just fine on Batman for both vendors. Or that it's exclusive.
Yes, I read the article. My point was that the HBAO family and HDAO are completely DX11-based and thus are not exclusive to either manufacturer, but there may be issues when running Nvidia/AMD's method on an AMD/Nvidia GPU as they were built with specific architectures in mind.
doniewhalberg
Member
I was under the impression Ubi had stated ACIV would be out a few weeks after the console launch, maybe even December? If this has changed, I'll be a happy guy. Got a pre-order in for BF4 on that date instead right now, but I'd prefer ACIV if I get the choice.
Looking forward to Origins, only holding off on a pre-order because I'm waiting to see if GMG do another 25% off code soon.
angular graphics
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I did get you. Just saying since HBAO+ is supposed to be an entirely new thing it doesn't matter how HBAO behaved.
So anyone knows how did HBAO+ behave in SC:Blacklist on nvidia/AMD?
Dictator93
Member
I was under the impression that HBAO+'s Compute usage made it actually run faster than some of the other technqiues whilst looking quite a bit better.
Not sure how it runs on AMD. Certainly some people on GAF have first hand XP.
doniewhalberg
Member
Worked completely fine with on my nvidia card, I was able to run Blacklist everything max settings bar putting TXAA down at x2 instead of x4. 1080p with a 770.
Of course it does. The effect isn't going to be Nvidia-exclusive when, like its predecessor, it's entirely based upon DX11 and doesn't utilise proprietary technology to achieve the results (i.e. CUDA).
HBAO+ on:
HBAO+ off:
Edit: Added another image for comparison.
Chance Hale
Member
The director stated it would come a few weeks later but then Ubisoft came around and said they still had it planned to launch on the 31st of October. Still very possible for it to be delayed I suppose, here's to hoping not!
doniewhalberg
Member
Nice find! That's awesome, I hadn't seen that reported anywhere. Really looking forward to roaming the high seas and searching for buried treasure. hopefully there's a more piratey uniform for the main character that can be unlocked. Day 1 for sure!
History is going to repeat itself, isn't it?
Ubi on AssCreed 3's PC release date (March 2012):
Ubi on AssCreed 3's PC release date (August 2012):
velociraptor
Junior Member
Well that sucks. Nvidia only?
The definitive PC version will feature the following visual improvements:
- Soft Shadows
- TXAA anti-aliasing (Nvidia exclusive)
- Turbulence/Cloth/Particles PhysX Effects (Nvidia exclusive)
- Nvidias new DOF technique (???)
- HBAO+ (Nvidia exclusive)
As well as the usual PC benefits: Higher resolution textures, smoother framerate, 1080p+ resolution, tessellation, etc...
Video Demonstration from PAX: http://www.twitch.tv//pax/b/455406939?utm_campaign=archive_embed_click&utm_source=www.dsogaming.com (Arkham Origins segment begins 36:20)
Assassins Creed IV Black Flag was also demonstrated on PC and a few details were released as well...
- 4k textures on PC version
- TXAA support
I find it odd that PC games have Nvidia exclusive features while the next-gen games are being made on AMD GPUs.
Pagusas
Elden Member
From what I've heard Nvidia is FAR more active in helping developers, pushing there features, and actually sending people out to show dev's how to use these things.
Means nothing in the face of moneyhats.
How common are 4k textures for a PC game? Sounds nice for future higher-res gaming.
Chance Hale
Member
Ha at the last gamespy question. It probably will be delayed then, never knew they had been so insistent to the contrary with AC3. Again, he's to hoping not I suppose
Kydd BlaZe
Member
Yeah, I've always thought that TXAA looked horrible. It just turns everything into a blurry mess, IMO.
Chance Hale
Member
It's a big trade-off depending on the game but it really can remove all aliasing which is quite nice.
Bruce Campbell87
Banned
great news, 4K textures should be a mandatory for PC games I think.
Nvidia is the best way to approach to PC gaming.
Nvidia is the best way to approach to PC gaming.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
I know there is a CE, but it's not being released for PC.
Dictator93
Member
I cannot think of many games which have 4k textures. I know some are in Crysis 3... but definitely not all.
Exactly. These features wouldn't even be in the game otherwise.
angular graphics
Banned
That list is.. "wrong", I think. Only PhysX is really nvidia exclusive.
AFAIK TXAA requires specific nvidia hardware (eg a nvidia GTX460 canNOT enable it) so it's not fair to imply there's an artificial lock against AMD. There will be other types of AA to select for AMD or older nvidia cards.
In fact AMD cards have their own exclusive AA modes accessed through their drivers. One can't complain these aren't released for nvidia users; they are designed for AMD hardware. The only difference is that TXAA is accessed through the game menu, instead of through the nvidia drivers menu.
So here is the list "corrected":
Bruce Campbell87
Banned
come on, no. TXAA is very heavy even for my GTX670, but this is the best solution in every condition, aliasing simply disappear and the detail is great.
Nocturno999
Member
Most of these features are "nice to have" but I think most are superfluous and you'll do better by turning them off.
TXAA like FXAA, covers the jaggies with Vaseline and gives a very blurry look. 4K textures in AC4 is very nice though.
TXAA like FXAA, covers the jaggies with Vaseline and gives a very blurry look. 4K textures in AC4 is very nice though.
angular graphics
Banned
TXAA does not work like FXAA at all, but yes it does have a very blurry look, that's true.
But the truth is when I played Batman: AC with only dx9 and PhysX off it certainly made me think it was (and still is) the best looking UE3 game I've played! (BioShock: Infinite is somewhere around there as well).
So I am very excited for this, even if I don't have the horsepower to enable and max out every little graphic detail option.
The Janitor
Member
I've never actually played a game with TXAA so I have't seen it, but can't the blur be countered by lumasharpen in SweetFX?
Works well when countering blur from SGSSAA atleast.
Works well when countering blur from SGSSAA atleast.
I did see a picture somewhere of Assassin's Creed 3 that compared TXAA to TXAA with sharpening, and it really did seem to bring back clarity.
Vinterbird
Member
Buying AMD feels like a bad decision now.
Wow nice music in both videos.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
LOL. Never seen that before. The rest of their stuff comes out the same day on PC, right? Why the fuck do they just always fuck us with the AC games?