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[#1 defender]

I agree. I probably prefer Knight's combat now because it adds so much, but at the time, Origins was a real sink or swim moment on hard setting. The stricter timing for the counters alone and the faster pace of the fights in general was refreshing after Asylum and City.

It also had the shock gloves though, which let you indiscriminately wreck anything. And that line launcher replacement gave you 2 (or was it 3?) easy KOs in any predator type scenario. With that said, i liked the game well enough overall, i even got to max rank in the multiplayer, which at it's best could be a lot of fun (mostly when playing as the heroes), even though it was very basic.

 

[erotic grandpa]

Given WB's past port salvage efforts (Arkham Knight PC, MKX PC, etc. etc.), I can't imagine this will come out looking much (if any) better than those early comparisons, and WB just going "¯\_(&#12484_/¯" afterward.

A lot of the changed textures are by far for the worse (Joker's considerably cleaner looking suit, Catwoman's outfit stripped of details and replaced more or less with a single texture), the boasted new lighting is either flat or completely changes the atmosphere of the games. I just can't see them going back and fixing all these things.

Man, what a bummer. I'd love for these things to just be 1080/60 PC ports, but it sounds like they figured this dumb undertaking was the best way to go.

Spoiler

And hell yeah, throw Origins in there. It's blasphemy, but that's the best Batman voice in the series, anyway.

 

[10k]

Given how awful it looked last time we saw it I this is probably for the best.

Yeah they somehow made it look worse. Hoping they go back to the drawing board lol. Add in origins while they're at it.

 

[thepenguin55]

This begs the question of who is remastering these games? Is it Rocksteady? That would explain why Origins isn't in this collection. This would also make the switch to UE4 make sense as well because this is a better way to get your feet wet with UE4 than to just make a new game with UE4. Either way, why would they ever put screen shots out when these remasters obviously needed some major work done? It's almost like someone lost a bet or something.

 

[NealMcCauley]

Game must have been an even bigger shitshow than expected for it to disappear like this.

 

[tokyocrusher]

This begs the question of who is remastering these games? Is it Rocksteady? That would explain why Origins isn't in this collection. This would also make the switch to UE4 make sense as well because this is a better way to get your feet wet with UE4 than to just make a new game with UE4. Either way, why would they ever put screen shots out when these remasters obviously needed some major work done? It's almost like someone lost a bet or something.

The company that is doing the remaster is virtuous games

 

[Allnamestakenlol]

Some people hate the tweaks to the combat, but as a vet of the first 2 the added challenge was very welcome in Origins. You had to relearn some of the timings and perform better in the base game, whereas the other two you could sort of sleep walk through them and only got tested in the challenge levels mostly.

I would agree with you if it wasn't for the game repeatedly taking cheap shots in combat. I had to put the game down after the umpteenth time Batman went into slow-mo for a finisher, when, all of a sudden a thug would move at near-double the speed of everyone else to punch me in the head and mess up my combo. =/

Edit: to clarify, the thug would cover a good amount of ground and get an attack off in the time it took Batman to finish throwing his punch.

 

[Blam]

I don't get why this needs a remaster rerelease the PC versions that's all that needs to be done.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Could actually be an internal learning project that some higher ups saw and said "heck, we can release this"

This is actually a good possibility.

 

[Father_Brain]

Don't understand why they went to the lengths of porting the games to UE4 when they could have done direct 1080p/60fps PC ports for far cheaper.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Well shit, I guess they are taking all that negative feedback to heart, but for the love of god don't turn this into a holiday title, to much stuff comes out around then. This was the perfect time to release it, now I might not be able to get this day one.

 

[Zombegoast]

Also missing volumetric lighting effects that the 360/PS3 also had.

http://i.imgur.com/zEDSYWB.gif[/IG][/QUOTE]

I can add that in less in a second in UE4. This is the type of shit why people shouldn't buy "remastered" games. Their buying the same game at full price.

 

[User 479360]

Well shit, I guess they are taking all that negative feedback to heart, but for the love of god don't turn this into a holiday title, to much stuff comes out around then. This was the perfect time to release it, now I might not be able to get this day one.

Agreed. I hope it doesn't come out at a really busy time now.

This is one of my more anticipated releases, because I love Asylum and like City a lot. I traded Arkham in when I had the chance to get a great deal and regret it.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Agreed. I hope it doesn't come out at a really busy time now.

This is one of my more anticipated releases, because I love Asylum and like City a lot. I traded Arkham in when I had the chance to get a great deal and regret it.

Would be hilarious if they delay it until TBD 2017. Oh well, canceling my order. No reason to keep it on order with no clue of when its coming out now.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I have hope for the collection based on the fact that its NOT being ported by High Voltage software.

 

[Z3M0G]

Huh... for some reason I thought this was already out...

So all those comparisons that were going around were from pre-release media?

 

[PeskyToaster]

Why port it to UE4 when you can get such gorgeous images out of UE3. Arkham Knight is amazing looking.

 

[Naked Lunch]

Pretty wild because the remaster was set to release VERY soon.
The game looked horrible once revealed on this very forum. I wonder if that played a role in getting it pushed back? Good on the gamers...

 

[CosmicQueso]

Don't understand why they went to the lengths of porting the games to UE4 when they could have done direct 1080p/60fps PC ports for far cheaper.

Right?

 

[Z3M0G]

Porting the game to a Unreal Engine 4 probably had a lot to do with it.
It probably would of been way easier to port the UE3 PC version with all settings maxed out to consoles.

This is all they should have done... and perhaps they will do just that now.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

While a lot of people are still (rightfully so I might add) salty from the PC port of Arkham Knight, WB does deserve *some* praise for deciding to delay this and (hopefully) get it right.

The Arkham series is the crown jewel of the WB publisher library and they need to make sure this is done well.

 

[SMG]

They're unfortunately backed up with other titles.

I do think QLOC would be great for this. They're very good at remaster work as well.

Just looked them up and they seem to know what their doing, The DmC releases got a lot of love.

This WB mess shows that good port houses need to be known by gamers. So stuff like this and the Silent Hill collection will stop(or be called out early enough to change direction).

 

[EroticSushi]

I think it would have been better to just port over the PC version and have it running 1080/60.

Some comparisons from the previous thread.

 

[MuchoMalo]

Oh, NOW they think that delaying is a good idea.

Screw these guys.

 

[Respect]

Would like to see origins in there as well...but then they would have to fix the bugs in origins as well...not holding my breath.

 

[Empyrean Heaven]

Excellent. Take 12 months, make it a clear upgrade over the PC version in terms of assets, and package in Origins.

PC release with updated assets would also be appreciated.

This. This so hard.

 

[Diablohead]

Given how awful it looked last time we saw it I this is probably for the best.

this

 

[Falchion]

I'm not normally a big fan of delays but in this case it looks like a good thing.

 

[GoldandBlue]

Oh, NOW they think that delaying is a good idea.

Screw these guys.

Gotta make sure their console fans are happy since they lost the PC ones.

 

[Davide]

At a guess, I'd say that the first two games' cutscenes aren't usable for a remaster since they were FMV, and that they don't exist in a higher resolution than 720p, so they're trying to recreate them in real time in 1080p, only they're not doing a great job of it.

That scene was never even pre-rendered though.

 

[Alienous]

Can't wait.

 

[Bizzquik]

Don't understand why they went to the lengths of porting the games to UE4 when they could have done direct 1080p/60fps PC ports for far cheaper.

Totally agree.
I thought I wanted Unreal 4 engine. Now - if it really involves this much hassle and failure - I don't.

Please go the Resident Evil 4/5/6 Remaster route: release Asylum at 1080p/60fps for $20, then release City a few months later, then (finally) release Origins.

 

[Magnet_Man]

At least post the latest build's images bruh:

 

[User 479360]

I hope it won't be cancelled, though, because I really want good remasters of these games.

 

[keltickennedy]

I don't get why this needs a remaster rerelease the PC versions that's all that needs to be done.

Probably wanted the studio to work with the Unreal 4 pipeline.

 

[tokyocrusher]

Probably wanted the studio to work with the Unreal 4 pipeline.

The studio they have making the game barely works on video games why do they need to work with unreal 4

 

[Neff]

That scene was never even pre-rendered though.

A lot of the scenes they've compared are, but some aren't. The Strange close-up is real time across all versions for example, but it still looks awful in this port. I'm guessing they want to do the entire thing in real time for some reason, and assets (of which I'd guess aren't being created with access to the originals) are being shared across the board. It's absolutely baffling.

 

[shinobi602]

They should just continue whatever they're doing with this remaster and give Origins to Bluepoint since that's the only Batman game that truly deserves a remaster/rerelease.

 

[keltickennedy]

The studio they have making the game barely works on video games why do they need to work with unreal 4

http://www.virtuosgames.com/en/games

Looks like they work on games....

 

[strafer]

Good. Maybe all the comments about not including Origins is finally getting through.

 

[Timu]

Are there any UE3 games on Xbox One or PS4?

Batman Arkham Knight and Mighty No. 9.

 

[Moozo]

Wasn't this rumoured ages before it was announced as well? By the time it comes out it will have taken longer to develop than the actual games

 

[Coma Ecliptic]

What's the over under on this actually coming out?

I mean, couldn't you see a year from now this totally being forgotten and turning into "What ever happened to Batman remastered?"

 

[KingBroly]

Batman Arkham Knight and Mighty No. 9.

Handsome Jack Collection

 

[akidnamededdy]

At this point I don't understand why publishers bother using anyone but Bluepoint for their remaster collections.

Origins is the best game in the series so please use this time to remove your heads from your asses and include it.

That is all.

 

[Fahzgoolin]

yeah it looked like shite. good

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I don't get why this needs a remaster rerelease the PC versions that's all that needs to be done.

<facepalm>

How is it that this day and age that it doesn't occur to people that these remasters ARENT for people who are PC gamers?

It's mind boggling that this question continues to be brought up every time a remaster thread comes up.

 

[Neoxon]

Hopefully they take this time to touch up the visuals & add Origins to the package.

 

[Saucycarpdog]

Console players can now finally see the incompetence and uncaring attitude that WB has been showing PC players.

 

[truestatic]

Some people hate the tweaks to the combat, but as a vet of the first 2 the added challenge was very welcome in Origins. You had to relearn some of the timings and perform better in the base game, whereas the other two you could sort of sleep walk through them and only got tested in the challenge levels mostly.

The one thing that always annoyed me about origins was that they basically made the directed aerial worthless. In City, Directed Aerial provided the same protection that an aerial on a riot shield guy did. In Origins, directed aerial left your ass flapping in the breeze while someone wound up a haymaker. Apart from that, the increased aggression was cool.

I didn't like the electric gloves, though.

At least post the latest build's images bruh:

My thoughts exactly.