They gave the Ultimate Cut an standing ovation, the.final one was made like a month before release and was clearly rushed given Snyder's lack of approval of it.
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'Batman v Superman' Fallout: Warner Bros. Shakes Up Executive Roles
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Because this is what they hope happens. WW and SS are hits. People have short memories if those movies are successes people will go see an ensemble movie again.
With the oversight they have now. Ben being on set flexing his shit they'll take JL being a coherent movie at least. After JL1 they'll distance themselves from Snyder but still give him credit.
I think the trailers look great. It's my most anticipated for the rest of 2016, neck and neck with Rogue One.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
It's a bit too early to say it's a bit too late, IMO. Let's see what comes of this.
Do we have an actual source for that or is that another assumption?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Having their universe be filmmaker driven is still a good idea
Just stop letting that filmmaker be Snyder FFS
Just stop letting that filmmaker be Snyder FFS
El Mayimbe and McWeeny.
Filmmaker driven is good, but you need oversight. Especially in a connected universe.
Well that's certainly an interesting piece of information
What did he mean by this?
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That's so weird how Snyder's role is diminishing despite pretty much already casting the main players for the decade-long universe
I guess the new bosses can work with...Green Lantern? Geoff will love that
I guess the new bosses can work with...Green Lantern? Geoff will love that
I never heard that, but Snyder said in an interview that the movie was only cut to the the theatrical edit a few months before release and that he considered it the "workable" version. Keep in mind the movie completed shooting in 2014.
I think the casting is fine and Geoff can do plenty with Flash and Aquaman. Going forward will be interesting after JL1
echoshifting
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Couldn't afford? How much money are we talking here? I understand it would have cost millions to delay Justice League and course correct, but billions are at stake here. Literally their entire comic universe is on the line with that movie. If JL1 is as poorly received as BvS has been, I don't think it will matter if Wonder Woman and Suicide Squad were good. It would be an absolute disaster and they are steering right into it.
The Outsider
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Sounds good to me. I don't think I can handle another MoS or BvS. Hopefully SS is a step in the right direction.
Kid Kamikaze10
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Pro: Filmmaker driven films, hopefully getting away from Snyder's vision of the DCCU.
Con: It's now going to be Johns' vision of the DCU. If the comics are anything to go by, it's not gonna be my tempo.
But hey, as long as it makes the DC films better.
Con: It's now going to be Johns' vision of the DCU. If the comics are anything to go by, it's not gonna be my tempo.
But hey, as long as it makes the DC films better.
MisterHero
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He got real mad when his city got destroyed. Oh wait that's too much destruction. And unheroic to boot. Oh, it was a space bug so he's okay now.
Or the time John Stewart got a planet blown up.
Or when a cosmic lord of death reanimated the bodies of dead heroes and villains.
NAH THAT'S TOO DARK/DESTRUCTIVE
Criticizing Snyder's story ideas is fair game but, from a visual standpoint, no other director in the comic movie genre comes close to him.
All he needs is a solid script, 300 and Watchmen prove that. MoS's script was it's weak point, and while BvS's was a huge improvement, it still wasn't as good as it should've have been.
"I'm not a lady, I'm a journalist"
That had to be Goyer
I agree. The former is the real problem.
Kinda of like choosing between a kick in the nuts of a baseball bat to the knee
Father_Brain
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Where did McWeeny say that? As I recall, Umberto first asserted that as an explanation for having told fans that they had nothing to worry about regarding BvS, in response to Faraci and McWeeny (correctly, as it turns out) alleging that WB had serious concerns about the film.
As was pointed out before. They can't just delay it. These people are available now. Delaying it potentially costs even more money and time. What you do is make SS and WW the best movies they can be and hope to hell they hit with audiences. That combo alone could help change public perception. People have short memories. and then you literally watch over the entire JL1 process and make it coherent and fun movie. After that you distance yourself from Snyder.
An overly dark tone that's channeling the "grimdark" territory of '90s comics is off-putting to the majority of movie-goers.
IdreamofHIME
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God help them if that Harry Potter movie without Harry Potter underperforms.
echoshifting
Banned
Yeah, I suppose you're right. It's just baffling to me that they're in this corner in the first place, but I guess that's the best way to get themselves out of it. Hopefully.
Crossing my fingers, I want good DCEU movies.
MisterHero
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If there's one mistake I WILL put DC on blast for, it's for not working on Captain Marvel.
They have Black Adam and no Billy Batson in sight.
Is Patrick Warburton to old to play the Big Red Cheese?
NinjaTehFish
Banned
The problem isn't that the filmography or the story has a dark tone the problem is that supermans character has a dark tone, which to many is an anti-thesis of the character.
ThoseDeafMutes
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So you'd say you're team Iron Man?
watchmen proved what? It got mixed to bad reviews and terrible box-office word of mouth. Just like BvS. Watchmen wasn't a success financially nor critically.
I thought you were my friend Martha
I blame Warner Bros., Snyder, and Goyer for Batman v Superman. They each played a pivotal role in what ended up on screen.
I don't think it was even a good movie version of the comic. Snyder revels in violence and superheroics which is not what watchmen was about. Not to mention making rorschach a hero lol
Yup. Have been from the get go, but I do understand Caps side.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Especially when you take into consideration what these actors do to their bodies to fit each role they take. which takes alot of time and determination.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
This isn't going to work.
Just like it hasn't worked on Publishing side.
Johns is not good at this.
Just like it hasn't worked on Publishing side.
Johns is not good at this.
Or at least mitigate the short term until JL1 is out.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Ive actually seen a ton of people spread word of mouth that htey loved watchmen and the only thing that they didnt like was the ending in which they changed the giant squid into a atomic-esque bomb
What earth is this?
It is like my birthday when Bobby Roberts shits on Geoff Johns.
I don't understand why people say this. I thought Johns was well respected.
Only Bobby and Slayven say negative shit about him. Come to think of it-I've never seen Bobby and Slayven together in the same room.
Geoff Johns is an amazing writer, he just tends to steamroll anything that came before him.
Which might be a good thing in this case
Sho_Nuff82
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Does Johns ever sleep?
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