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Batman vs Superman: World's Finest Three-Year Wait
- Thread starter Marion Cobretti
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Everyone's hyping up summer 2015, but it's 2016 that's going to be packed to death. Superman/Batman, ASM 3, X-Men, two Marvel movies, Alice in Wonderland 2, How to Train Your Dragon 3, Apes 3, Finding Dory, Independence Day 2, etc. all in a three month span.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Okay? You guys act like people don't see more than one movie.
shadyspace
Banned
Marvel flick in question is Cap 3
Source?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Made the most sense.
Thank you.
God damn Cap 2 really must be something to give Marvel this much confidence.
Would be for the best. Why would you put your most ambitious film in any kind of danger? Competing directly with a Marvel movie will hurt both.
Damn. They are just ready to fucking go after the hype for Winter Soldier... Crazy, man.
No, I look infinitely better. I come into this thread looking for news, or updates, or something worthwhile, and I really don't want to see version one thousand of the same tired argument between what seem to be a bunch of folks who have an unnatural and unhealthy amount of love towards 'opposing' companies.
I know - I meant the first sign of what that competition actually is. I guess WB tried to push Marvel to back down, but Marvel didn't flinch. Now they've revealed Captain America 3, it would be kind of silly of WB to move MoS 2 so quickly.
He's taking a break from acting so the Marvel films will pretty much be the only things he does. He probably doesn't mind so much.
Someone should fax the memo right away. Cap 3 will do amazing but BvS will do better.
Cap 3 will be, what, Marvel's 8th or 9th movie by that point? Batman will have last been seen something like 4 years by the time BvS releases AND the sequel to a generally well received Superman movie by audiences AND be the first time the two will have ever been in live action cinema together. I just don't see how Cap 3 can best that.
Granted, it's very likely Cap 3 will be the better movie. I will say WB better know what they have at stake here. If Cap 3 is better received/does bigger at the BO than a fucking Superman/Batman movie they should just quit. They wouldn't, but they should.
Cap 3 will be, what, Marvel's 8th or 9th movie by that point? Batman will have last been seen something like 4 years by the time BvS releases AND the sequel to a generally well received Superman movie by audiences AND be the first time the two will have ever been in live action cinema together. I just don't see how Cap 3 can best that.
Granted, it's very likely Cap 3 will be the better movie. I will say WB better know what they have at stake here. If Cap 3 is better received/does bigger at the BO than a fucking Superman/Batman movie they should just quit. They wouldn't, but they should.
BlackNMild2k1
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Cap 3 will have a built in audience of everyone that was pleased with Cap 2.
If Cap 2 does better than Thor 2 numbers and closer to IM3 numbers, and Avengers 2 does anything close to or better than Avengers 1, then Cap 3 is the movie to beat, not the other way around. The built in audience with 12-13 movies preceding it carrying forward a connected storyline, riding off another possible Avengers bump coupled with massive HYPE after a highly successful sequel... the burden is on Batman vs Superman to overcome that.
The trailers will need to be on point as they will be scrutinized to death. The movie had to be better than just decent 6/10 because the fans will tear this a new one if it doesn't deliver.
Tension well be high and expectations even higher since this is the DC jumping off point of their Cinematic Universe and DC fans want that same thing us Marvel fans already have, and that is a cohesive universe for our favorite characters to coincide within together. Bring all our favorite comic characters & crossovers events to life.
So while some DC enthusiast feel everyone is stupid or idiotic for thinking Captain America 3 stands a chance against BvS, I think the ball is in DC's hands, but they are playing in Marvel's court.
There are still a lot of "ifs" that needed become "knowns" such as how well Cap 2 does and how Avengers 2 does, but based on general Hype and reviews, I still think DC is the one with something to prove.
If Cap 2 does better than Thor 2 numbers and closer to IM3 numbers, and Avengers 2 does anything close to or better than Avengers 1, then Cap 3 is the movie to beat, not the other way around. The built in audience with 12-13 movies preceding it carrying forward a connected storyline, riding off another possible Avengers bump coupled with massive HYPE after a highly successful sequel... the burden is on Batman vs Superman to overcome that.
The trailers will need to be on point as they will be scrutinized to death. The movie had to be better than just decent 6/10 because the fans will tear this a new one if it doesn't deliver.
Tension well be high and expectations even higher since this is the DC jumping off point of their Cinematic Universe and DC fans want that same thing us Marvel fans already have, and that is a cohesive universe for our favorite characters to coincide within together. Bring all our favorite comic characters & crossovers events to life.
So while some DC enthusiast feel everyone is stupid or idiotic for thinking Captain America 3 stands a chance against BvS, I think the ball is in DC's hands, but they are playing in Marvel's court.
There are still a lot of "ifs" that needed become "knowns" such as how well Cap 2 does and how Avengers 2 does, but based on general Hype and reviews, I still think DC is the one with something to prove.
Bobby Roberts
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The trailers will be on point, and even they werent, the percentage of filmgoers who "scrutinize" the advertisements is MAYBE 10%
And chances are those people are going to the fucking movie anyway.
Nemesis121
Member
My wallet man, i want to see all of those gotta plan it out, which one is IMAX which is regular matinee showing..
BadAss2961
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Marvel's going to hit fatigue at some point. I just hope they don't take the good comic book movies with them.
Holy shit how had I never seen that before? That was pretty funny. If DC would get in on it too and also start playfully throwing jabs back the fans on both sides would go ape shit.
TacticalFox88
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Marvel's going to hit fatigue at some point. I just hope they don't take the good comic book movies with them.
Considering how many genres you can do with the superheros alone. If Marvel is smart (and all indication points to yes till proven otherwise), they can create very diverse films within the MCU, from thrillers, action packed, mystery, SciFi, space opera etc.
Wiktor
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With most superheroes (at least the Earth-based ones) all you can do is action movies though. You can give them some slight flavor in one way or another, but in the end they're all will still be action movies.
Nobody will make $200 mln mystery movie with superhero.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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A mystery superhero movie doesn't need to have $200 mil budget, though. As it doesn't need a lot of flashy CG like the action ones.
They should. Play into the fanboy wars. Let the fans do your advertising for you. Works for the video game industry.
TacticalFox88
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Of course not. Because that'd be dumb.
You know, mid range budgets ($75mil-130mil) of superhero genres would be ideal. Have Marvel test the waters.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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World's Finest will be the bestest thing ever. Mark my words. Mark my goddamn words.
TacticalFox88
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We said that when we saw MoS trailers.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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I said this BEFORE the trailer even come out. That's the difference for ya.
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Snyder will come through action and visuals, which like 75% of what superhero movies are about. I just hope that the 'oscar winner' writer comes through.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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If Alan Moore has taught me anything, it is good scripts that make good Snyder films.
I'm marking your words. I'm also boldening them
RobotNinjaHornets
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You've got a good escape clause there if it's not actually called World's Finest
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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Good. Can't never be too careful.
You've got a good escape clause there if it's not actually called World's Finest
Well, like I said, can't never be too careful.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
that's not how quotation marks work.
BadAss2961
Member
Nah... I thought the video was a little cringeworthy. For a studio that's doing very well, they sure are acting like #2. It's always the ones in 2nd place that talk the most.
I liked it. It was just mostly just Mackie having some fun. He is the same guy who has stated multiple times that he wanted to have Falcon in his traditional colorful costume. He and Sam Jackson are hardly the spokesmen of Marvel. It would be like Gal Gadot saying something and attributing it to Warner Bros studio on the whole.
crimsonspider89
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Perfect reaction vid.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
Member
To be fair, they were asked about it.
Maddocks
Member
yup. WB doesn't really have to say much. They doing something no one knew could happen. batman and superman on screen together being awesome. When batman and superman are standing side by side on top of a building, we will know they actually are doing it and not green screened together.
Wait what?
I'm hyped.
I'm also hyped for Cap 2. This is a good time to be a Superhero fan guys... DC or Marvel. Exciting times await! Let's embrace that and not let silly fanboy squabbles spoil anything.
Having seen what Mr Affleck has done recently with Argo... The Town & Gone, Baby Gone (I know he didn't act) I have no worries that he can play the part, and play it well. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt anyway.
I'd be shocked if this doesn't gross a billion dollars!
Anyway... I'll be subbed to this getting the news as it comes in.
Surprisingly
Having seen what Mr Affleck has done recently with Argo... The Town & Gone, Baby Gone (I know he didn't act) I have no worries that he can play the part, and play it well. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt anyway.
I'd be shocked if this doesn't gross a billion dollars!
Anyway... I'll be subbed to this getting the news as it comes in.
Maddocks
Member
putting Batman and Superman on screen together. I remember they wanted batman for Smallville, but couldn't happen. Not because they had no ideas, but because WB wouldn't allow it and they had some legal problems with it.
Future Foundation
Member
Every time this thread gets bumped, I think it's about the suits.
In the next few years, I'll hopefully been lucky enough to have seen:
Guardians of the Galaxy
Multiple Avengers movies
Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman
Justice League
Dr. Strange
The Sinister Six
Venom (I remember hearing shit about that since the Raimi movies)
Ant-Man
Possibly Black Panther
Possibly Captain Marvel
Age of Apocalypse
Days of Future Past
Crazy times man.
I'm hyped.I'm also hyped for Cap 2. This is a good time to be a Superhero fan guys... DC or Marvel. Exciting times await! Let's embrace that and not let silly fanboy squabbles spoil anything.Surprisingly
In the next few years, I'll hopefully been lucky enough to have seen:
Guardians of the Galaxy
Multiple Avengers movies
Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman
Justice League
Dr. Strange
The Sinister Six
Venom (I remember hearing shit about that since the Raimi movies)
Ant-Man
Possibly Black Panther
Possibly Captain Marvel
Age of Apocalypse
Days of Future Past
Crazy times man.
MisterHero
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The Bat Embargo. IIRC someone behind the Nolan Batman movies didn't want any live-action crossovers while his movies were coming out. It also limited the Batvillains on Justice League, etc.
Batman now exists in Smallville Season 11 . I wonder how they would've handled him on the show though.
Tim Burton almost made it happen in the 90s but of course his Superman was cancelled.
Holy crap, how did I never know about this?
Even the comics don't have the budget for a good costume.
MisterHero
Super Member
I actually respect them for staying consistent to the show.
Discotheque
Banned
what's up with the grey skin? is he an alien?
what wack artists
what wack artists
Maddocks
Member
its a full mask, that's why its all gray.
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