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Battlefield 4 skipping Wii U
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Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Been confirmed before next-gen versions even were. Up for pre-order too...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BXE4KWG/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.gamestop.com/collection/battlefield-4
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Didn't they just release that Need for Speed game U owners are gushing over?
How do you figure?
With high profile is intended (or at least i intend) a game with big budget or at least a game that the company want to be successful (for example i don't think that the new rayman costed a lot but it is pushed by Ubisoft)
Now i don't know about the wiiu because i don't like it and i don't care about it but based from the past yeah Nintendo releases 3-4 high profile games per year per console but in the middle there is a lot of stuff that rarely people talk about.
Sincerely i for one am satisfied with 4-5 high profile games every year with not AAAAAA stuff in the middle but yes i can see how there is people that wants 2 AAA games a month (even if probably are the same ones that have huge backlogs with games still in the cellophane) and Nintendo should try to satisfy everyone.
Aquamarine
Member
Wii U sales are tracking worse than the GameCube so far.
EA seems to actually be giving its studios a lot of discretion in what platforms they choose. That's the non-conspiracy-theory version of why EA's games aren't showing up on the Wii U.
(I haven't entirely dismissed the conspiracy theory, but I am thinking it less and less likely).
Visualante2
Member
I blame the DLC situation. The infrastructure does not seem to be there to support rolling seasons of DLC. Nintendo needs to rectify this. Or maybe it is worse and they just don't care enough. With the age gates in Europe for mature rated content it cant be helping. As others I expect no Call if Duty and not much by way of sports titles. If you're not building a habitual audience on a platform from year 1 to introduce Madden later is an impossible uphill struggle once WiiU numbers do pick up
No idea... I haven't played a Need for Speed since 1998.
BlockheadBrown
Member
Did I miss something? Nintendo has announced there will be DLC support. They just don't have season passes. Or a collector's edition. And the skins they give away as pre-launch marketing aren't available for the Wii U, just PS3 and 360
Edit: Also, can we now state as a fact that when EA was talking about Gen 3 and Gen 4 consoles, that EA does NOT consider the Wii U a next gen console? Also also, Nintendo screwed up their launch by not creating/distributing final dev kits in time - but that's not much of an excuse now for a title launching a year after the Wii U will have been available.
Maybe I mis-read it. I'll have to double-check. If it does have DLC, then game-on!
GiantBreadbug
Member
This... isn't really a big deal I don't think.
It's definitely a non-issue for me, as I don't play Battlefield, but I don't see how this is disastrous for the Wii U. Unfortunate, maybe, but I think we got some straight up drama queens in here.
It's definitely a non-issue for me, as I don't play Battlefield, but I don't see how this is disastrous for the Wii U. Unfortunate, maybe, but I think we got some straight up drama queens in here.
Dark Ninja
Member
Wii U just isn't selling. Financially it's a bad idea to release software for it. Not worth the effort.
The Horror the horror
Banned
Next-gen will be expensive.
Third parties simply cannot afford to take the same risk on a Nintendo console that they could have in previous generations, especially as it pertains to mature-rated games. Games like Rayman, Skylanders, Lego, and those Disney games will absolutely make appearances on Nintendo's consoles, but that's it.
Third parties simply cannot afford to take the same risk on a Nintendo console that they could have in previous generations, especially as it pertains to mature-rated games. Games like Rayman, Skylanders, Lego, and those Disney games will absolutely make appearances on Nintendo's consoles, but that's it.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Runs and looks fine on my PS3 as it does for the thousands of other players I see online everyday. Maybe I just don't have the mindset of a 10yr old.
Chaos Theory
Banned
Been confirmed before next-gen versions even were. Up for pre-order too...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BXE4KWG/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.gamestop.com/collection/battlefield-4
omg yeah i am shocked . i edited my post. sorry. that was fucked up to release it on 360 and PS3. but not WII U :/
These are games that have never came out for a Nintendo console.... Lol huge change!!
Battlefield 3 sold 15+ million, it is one of the biggest games from one of the biggest publishers in the industry, so yeah it is a big deal that the direct next gen sequel is not coming to the Wii U.
Its not some indy title nobody knows or cares about
Did I miss something? Nintendo has announced there will be DLC support. They just don't have season passes. Or a collector's edition. And the skins they give away as pre-launch marketing aren't available for the Wii U, just PS3 and 360
Edit: Also, can we now state as a fact that when EA was talking about Gen 3 and Gen 4 consoles, that EA does NOT consider the Wii U a next gen console? Also also, Nintendo screwed up their launch by not creating/distributing final dev kits in time - but that's not much of an excuse now for a title launching a year after the Wii U will have been available.
Until I get confirmation from NetherRealm Studios and Warner Bros that all the DLC is coming and it's not determined on sales of the games I'm assuming it's not. It's their call in the end regardless of what Nintendo might say. They have no control over that. I saw the comment made in the Nintendo Direct someone linked to but I still don't think it's coming until there is some official word from the publisher itself.
Also EA allowing their developers freedom to put a game on a certain system sounds crazy. EA is far to controlling to allow that to happen. Then again Need for Speed did release and I'm still confused by that. However the DLC situation with that makes me not want to get it. So I'm expecting it's servers to be turned off fairly quickly considering this is EA.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
There's got to be a reason why developers aren't putting their dlc for sale on U.
If Warner bros is bothering to put their game on the system, then why would they pass up the chance to sell a few extra costumes? Does Nintendo not have their shit together with the e-shop?
Really, its kind of a no-brainer. People saying that it doesnt matter if BF4 isn't on Wii U makes me wonder if they even follow sales once in a while, if at all.
Visualante2
Member
If you follow what Kottick said he is actually concerned about the Skylanders audience on WiiU. I suspect the mature Nintendo faithful with disposable cash bought in at this point.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
That would probably be the only thing they could possibly do to worsen their situation at this point.
With this confirmation the clock is ticking on Wii U support. BF4 will be one of the biggest games of the year and could have a similar effect on the next gen install base as COD2 did.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Battlefield 3 didn't come out on the Wii either... it sucks its not coming out, especially given its coming on the similarly capable 360/PS3, however its not like this is a sea-change for DICE/EA. I'm disappointed myself, I would have loved some off-TV multiplayer etc... maybe things like periscope on the gamepad etc.
Having said that, the third party relations people at Nintendo have got to get their arses in gear or GTFO. The low budget development help they're giving and DD acquiescence to make them more indie-friendly is great... its that kind of effort they should be putting in to win back the likes of EA. Given the ridiculous demands Probst made of SEGA though, I wouldn't be surprised if EA are trying to hardball Nintendo for unrealistic concessions.
How many Wii U-only people are there? It seems like people are upset for the sake of getting upset.
peaceiscloser
Member
The third-party situation is a self-fulfilling cycle. If they don't have more games available for the Wii U, then no systems will sell... if they don't have more systems, there won't be any games... the only thing I think, IMO that can save Nintendo is having more partnerships a la Smash Bros with Namcom, Lego City with WB/TT, and SMT x FE with Atlus -- not just 3rd Party Multiplats but Nintendo-approved exclusives (timed or otherwise)
If Nintendo does this with Ubisoft, SE and Activision, you can be sure to see even EA to follow suit.
I'm disappointed BF4 isn't coming simply because there aren't many games. . . But in all honesty I'd rather see a more unique showing by DICE/EA -- although something would have definitely been better than nothing.
If Nintendo does this with Ubisoft, SE and Activision, you can be sure to see even EA to follow suit.
I'm disappointed BF4 isn't coming simply because there aren't many games. . . But in all honesty I'd rather see a more unique showing by DICE/EA -- although something would have definitely been better than nothing.
EagleBurnn
Banned
I'm going to buy BF4 on PC, but that's wrong. Shooters on a console are just as fun.
That still bothers me and I really hope Nintendo has regretted that and continues to regret it.
Same here. Such a terrible e3
BRocknRolla
Member
I've unfortunately come to expect this from new titles. Nintendo really needs to find something to drive sales. If they won't have much in the way of third parties they can't expect people to buy their console unless Nintendo starts increasing its first party support by a prodigious degree. They keep talking like they will, but words are cheap. Need to see those games actually come out.
Takamura-San
Member
If you're talking about E32k11, that's when John R. came on stage, then I would say that whatever happened is between then and now.
Did EA have a presence on Nin conf 2K12?
Like people are saying, something happened between that and now. Which has resulted on this. It may not be out of the question that at that time EA planned that kind of support.
The Horror the horror
Banned
Grand Theft Auto III and its successors never made an appearance on a Nintendo console and that's one of the most iconic franchises in the industry. Same for a proper Final Fantasy. And yet Nintendo has persevered, so I'm not sure why the absence of a FPS, representative of a genre which isn't traditionally well received commercially on a Nintendo machine, would cause a noticeable dent in the Wii U's future.
BF3 on consles and pc may as well have been two different games altogether. The level of visual fidelity even compared to a pc running it on low settings is way above the console version. The console version had slightly above 1/3 the total max player count of the pc version which leaves the larger maps like caspian border pretty much empty. And this is with the smaller map sizes too.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Which is why the U will continue it's downward spiral. It's only appeal is to the same 'ol Nintendo customers who all want the same thing.
Whether these games matter to you or not you should want them on your platform. It needs them if it's to compete, and bring in more support.
Are you really arguing that the lack of GTA on Gamecube wasn't a big deal? They hit the fad jackpot with the Wii. If the Wii U had followed the Gamecube, they'd be completely fucked by this point.
Thought he meant library wise.
Sales wise, well, I've made mention near launch how I felt this would be the worst selling Nintendo platform since Virtual Boy.
Edit: Thank God for Capcom, I will say. If it wasn't for Monster Hunter, the console would rarely get any gaming use after completing ZU and Mario Bros.
Rush2thestart
Member
Cause Battlefield and Crysis are so unique
The writing in on the wall for nintendo and its existence in the console business. Remove the Wii from nintendo's timeline and place the WiiU with the 360/ps3 and you would be having similar results. Ironically this is actually its current situations...
As a WiiU owner, I hope we receive some of the best nintendo games this generations as they can't afford not to.
As a WiiU owner, I hope we receive some of the best nintendo games this generations as they can't afford not to.
It's really funny because BF4 is coming to all systems yet the Wii U version is "stretching it"
Nintendo might as well middle finger EA because EA excuses (you know this is a excuse) is just sad.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
and then, magically, everyone will be hyped about the game. right now? disappointment, no one cares, etc.
Wii U needs games, period. I don't care about Battlefield nearly as much as I do about a sequel to Mirror's Edge, especially when I want it to come to my preferred console of choice.
It may be a non-issue to you but it's definitely an issue to Nintendo and if you don't see how one of the biggest publishers not putting out one of their biggest games on the Wii U isn't a big deal, then I have no idea what catastrophic thing would have to happen for it to register with you.
Future PhaZe
Member
more like neither of those
Dreamcast was actually a ridiculous fighter box at the time. Pretty much all major fighters hit the console, and sometimes exclusively.
Gamecubes software offerings were diverse and amazing.
Wii U? Well, it has Zombie U so far I guess.