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Battlestar Galactica Season 3 thread
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Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Just started season 3. Dont really care for it much so far. Season 2 was spectacular up until they gained control of the Pegasus. Then it just seemed to lose all its steam and get really random. Like i was missing whole epsiodes or something. Now you have all this New Caprica crap and it feels like a completely diffrent show.
Oh and Starbuck really should have smashed that little brats skull in the second that dude left them alone together. What a pathetic loser she is.
Oh and Starbuck really should have smashed that little brats skull in the second that dude left them alone together. What a pathetic loser she is.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
kamikaze said:
Destroying that little freak baby is clearly the right thing to do.
Did someone call for a rehost of the last ~4 minutes or so of the season finale?
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/378963/BSG Finale.flv
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modkennylaine
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Man, I'll accept Anders/Tyrol/Tigh as cylons, but TORI? LAME. So, so lame. Could've picked tons of other characters, or even made up some new characters...but all Tori's done is scowl and say "Madame President" alot. AIRLOCK TIME!
Also, is Baltar going to stay disguised as a woman? Because that would be hilarious.
Also, is Baltar going to stay disguised as a woman? Because that would be hilarious.
Back on Caprica Starbuck definitely got more than a tummy tuck from the cylons while she was in that 'hospital'. Did I miss something? because almost all of her character changes started after that point in the series. I'm not sure how much that has to do with the recent stuff thats been going on with her, such as the fresh viper she's in (which looks another model besides the mark II and mark VII but i may just be speculating when it comes to that whole thing). The strangest thing was the fact that she brought an entire fleet with her... just bs, but im almost ready to bet money that she lead the cylons to them, gave them the codes to fleet (which explains the universal power surge throughout the fleet), and intends, to lead both the cylons and the fleet to Earth. I'm not saying it'll be a big groovy space party and they'll start singing old bob dylan songs together... the close proximity of the cylons and humans would also allow Roslin & some others to go back & forth between basestar and gallactica.
...most of the season premieres have been kinda weak compared to the finales anyways, season 3's was
...most of the season premieres have been kinda weak compared to the finales anyways, season 3's was
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Frog said:
It would only be awesome if I actually cared about spoilers. But if I did care about spoilers I wouldnt come into this thread until I was completely done with season.
What makes everyone feel earth would welcome the colonial fleet with such open arms? They're the thirteenth colony, left the other twelve on their own volition many a millennia ago, it'd be great if they end up being this super advanced isolationist society, one which harbors as much distain for the colonials, as they do for the cylons.
It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.
It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.
Brian Fellows said:
I'm with you buddy, except for one little thing, you know, the whole not actually Leoben's kid thing. :lol
This represents the first proven time Leoben lied to Kara. Up until that point it seemed possible, if implausible, that everything he had told her was true.
So yes, I thought she should have killed the cylon hybrid. Toasters don't get rights. At that point the kid was a tactical decision - hybrids are clearly valuable to the Cylon "plan," ergo, if you can't capture it for analysis, kill it.
Here is All Along the Watchtower in MP3 form if anybody wants it
http://www.sendspace.com/file/asrur8
http://www.sendspace.com/file/asrur8
Aaronology
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modkennylaine said:
Yeah, I really wish the actor who played Billy hadn't left the show. All this time I'd been hoping that he'd come back and be revealed as one of the 5, but oh well.
Tori hasn't done much, but I imagine her character will become a good deal more interesting next season.
neojubei said:
...and I'm sure that it'll be on the Season 3 soundtrack CD when they finally decide to release it (but pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease release it before then!)
Also, I was listening to some other BSG music just now. I couldn't believe how awesome "One Year Later" is- amazing. That's the kind of music I want to write- minimalistic, emotional, and beautiful.
I'm still working on it.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I'm watching the boxing episode right now. The boxing part is cool. This Appollo/Starbuck shit makes me want to puke though. They should just kill off both of these losers and make Hotdog, Racetrack, and Kat main characters.
Jack Random
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Oh boyBrian Fellows said:
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Jack Random said:
Especially Racetrack. She only a million trillion times cooler than Star****.
Battersea Power Station
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I'm only up to Season 3, Episode 8 (just finished watching it), but I'm getting progressively more disappointed with the show.
Firstly, there's a definite change in style from Season 1/first half of Season 2. Starting with 2.14 and through what I've seen of Season 3, the acting and writing is a lot looser. There are long, melodramatic looks at the camera, there is a whole bunch of "drama" derived from miscommunication (which, to me, is the number 1 sign of lazy writing), and in general all the emotions are more contrived. The feelings used to be natural, not forced, in the show's earlier life.
Secondly, the plot is developing ugly holes. Bulldog was more or less "sent" by the Cylons to assassinate Adama. That means that the Cylons know exactly where the fleet is. Why don't they just jump in with 10 base ships and attack the fleet? With a huge attacking fleet, there's no way the humans will be able to prep a jump in time. And if they do, just do it again.
I asked myself this earlier in the show, but I assumed that the Cylons don't really want to kill the fleet, but to use it for something else. This was before we got multiple looks into the Cylons' command, however. It's now clear that they have no "master plan" and that they're only debating between killing the humans or trying to live on Earth.
This assassination bullshit and the earlier terrorism attempts make no sense.
Firstly, there's a definite change in style from Season 1/first half of Season 2. Starting with 2.14 and through what I've seen of Season 3, the acting and writing is a lot looser. There are long, melodramatic looks at the camera, there is a whole bunch of "drama" derived from miscommunication (which, to me, is the number 1 sign of lazy writing), and in general all the emotions are more contrived. The feelings used to be natural, not forced, in the show's earlier life.
Secondly, the plot is developing ugly holes. Bulldog was more or less "sent" by the Cylons to assassinate Adama. That means that the Cylons know exactly where the fleet is. Why don't they just jump in with 10 base ships and attack the fleet? With a huge attacking fleet, there's no way the humans will be able to prep a jump in time. And if they do, just do it again.
I asked myself this earlier in the show, but I assumed that the Cylons don't really want to kill the fleet, but to use it for something else. This was before we got multiple looks into the Cylons' command, however. It's now clear that they have no "master plan" and that they're only debating between killing the humans or trying to live on Earth.
This assassination bullshit and the earlier terrorism attempts make no sense.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Battersea Power Station said:
Yeah thats pretty much how I felt about things too. So far I havent been able to force myself to finish season 3. I ran though the first 2 seasons in like a week. I've only managed 9 epsiodes of season 3 in a month.
Battersea Power Station said:
You are right I have been saying it for a while. It is to bad the show went down hill I really liked season 2.0 great stuff. I knew the show was in major trouble at the end of season 2.5. When a show resorts to gimmicks like a 1 year time jump you know the writers have run out of ideas.
bachikarn said:
Sure the rescue was a fun episode but it turned the cylons into cheesy b level movie villians but I hated the rest of the new iraq stuff. To political for me I do not enjoy having view point shoved down my throat when I just want to be entertained. As fun as the rescue was not worth it to cheapen the cylons like they did. The cylons over season 3 were weakened and over exposed to the point were they lost their scariness and the mystery surrounding them. I won't even go into how they basically ruined every character on the show starting in season 2.5. Ron Moore should watch some FX to learn how to do flawed characters who have redeming qualities.
According to Wiki, Ronald Moore has said the fourth season may be the last. It'll probably depend on ratings. I hope either there's a jump in quality of the episodes in season 4, or they just wrap it all up with some compelling story arcs and bring this thing to a close.
I think some people have a hard time actually processing information and coming to the appropriate conclusion that the show is actually trying to tell you, instead they say oh one character said this so it must be true.
As per Roslyns speech at the end, Adama didn't start the war, and we know for a fact that the Cylons had a buildup prior to any incursion Adama made into Cylon space.
As for the Cylons using Buldog it was probably more just a 'what else could we do with him?' scenario besides if they jumped in with 10 baseships, Adama would have just had the fleet jump away.
I agree about the critisisms of Season 2.5 and 3 though. Season 1 was the peak of Battlestar, no question.
As per Roslyns speech at the end, Adama didn't start the war, and we know for a fact that the Cylons had a buildup prior to any incursion Adama made into Cylon space.
As for the Cylons using Buldog it was probably more just a 'what else could we do with him?' scenario besides if they jumped in with 10 baseships, Adama would have just had the fleet jump away.
I agree about the critisisms of Season 2.5 and 3 though. Season 1 was the peak of Battlestar, no question.
I agree, it I wasn't such a BSG fan that would have been a true shark jumping moment for me. I mean... seriously... really? NO consequences or that he even did it in the first place? What's worse is there were people who were actually stupid enough to agree with Helo on the sci fi message boards. :lol
Battersea Power Station
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Well, I'm glad that while we disagree on details, we still agree that 2.5-3 were weaker than 1. And one of those details is the whole question of existence: it's one of my favorite things about the show. I don't know if I would've agreed with Helo, but I do have to ask myself what qualifies a person. Do people have to be natural? Is that what defines them? I'm not sure.Zen said:
I do find it stupid that the Cylon models (with the exception of Caprica and Athena) share their consciousness, which I assume is the case because each model line votes as one singularity. They wanted to copy humans but they didn't embrace one of the most cherished human qualities: individuality. They shouldn't "network" their experiences, but let each individual Cylon gather his or her own experiences and thoughts.
Marty Chinn
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Zen said:
Actually, there were consequences. It's not done as blatant, but you'll notice he got demoted and was given more crappy tasks. Also, a part of Adama sort of agreed with the morality of the whole situation and didn't want to make a whole scene out of it so he punished him in his own way. There were scenes deleted that show some of this and several scenes in future eps that deal with it in a more subtle manner. Not everything is spelled out in the show, nor does it have to be.
Spotless Mind
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Marty Chinn said:
Even Apollo's (awesome) speech in the finale was very relevant to what Helo did, and how Adama and Roslin reacted to it. The idea of the whole season (or even series) is kind of summed up in that one speech.
distantmantra
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The Season 3 finale aired on Universal HD tonight, looked soo much better than it did on SciFi back in March.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Spotless Mind said:
If you go back to Ron Moore's original series outline leading up to the mini-series pilot, he observed that the big theme of BSG was to take people and throw them into ugly situations where their own ugly sides would really, truly, and unapologetically be placed in focus. Then, see if after we saw that, we could still like them - support them, agree with them, tolerate them.
Lee's (awesome) speech really was a dissertation on the whole show. While some conventions of the drama format have sort-of required Baltar to do and be a few things that make him a true "villain" some ways, from the perspective of what the characters know in the show, there's nothing Baltar has done that was worse than anything they done - in fact, as far as they know, he's done less horrible things than some. But, Baltar is the unlikable side; the convenient excuse to crucify a person just because you don't like them personally.
distantmantra
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Just finished rewatching the finale in HD. As per the final shot:
There doesn't appear to be any physical structures or settlements on the North American continent from what we could seeing during the HD broadcast.
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