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BAYONETTA 2 at TGS Twitch Stage...wait, what?

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If some of you really want to play Bayonetta, you should go out and buy a Wii U instead of begging here.

I do, but I want to play it at 60fps+ with high resolutions. If that's because it gets a PC port thats cool. If I have to buy a disc copy and emulate thats cool too. But the ways Bayonetta is available right now, I don't really want to play it.

Its not the same game in those respects.
 
If you guys wanna play this, poney up on a Wii U.

Or keep waiting for Bloodborne on X1 while you're at it.
 
If you guys wanna play this, poney up on a Wii U.

Or keep waiting for Bloodborne on X1 while you're at it.

This. It'll never stop with the port begging. As Kamiya said:

if you want Bayonetta 2 on PS4 or Xbox One, how about trying to ask NintendoÂ… If Nintendo doesnÂ’t say yes, itÂ’s not going to happenÂ… While youÂ’re at it, try asking for Mario and Zelda too
 
I could at the very least understand people asking for an NX port since that is the most likely case (though premature since we don't know exactly what the NX is or if ports aren't already planned) but considering Bayo 2's situation, it's a real exercise in futility begging for that game on anything but another Nintendo platform, not to mention doing it years after the fact in response to a Twitch stream. The hurt feelings about it still being on Wii U are just asinine though.

It's coming to PC one way or another, so I'm not overly concerned. Either way my Wii U copies will continue to function as long as my console does.

They are not asinine. A sequel to a cult classic 360/PS3 game getting made exclusively for a console very few of the original fans have any intention of owning was always going to go badly. Not everyone is as stupid with their money as I am. A couple hundred dollars to play 1 game that you want is a big ask. There's still not even a new Metroid or new Zelda game to ease the pain. For a lot of gamers the Wii U was a giant swing and a miss.
 
It's coming to PC one way or another, so I'm not overly concerned. Either way my Wii U copies will continue to function as long as my console does.

They are not asinine. A sequel to a cult classic 360/PS3 game getting made exclusively for a console very few of the original fans have any intention of owning was always going to go badly. Not everyone is as stupid with their money as I am. A couple hundred dollars to play 1 game that you want is a big ask. There's still not even a new Metroid or new Zelda game to ease the pain. For a lot of gamers the Wii U was a giant swing and a miss.

Exactly. Bayo 1 isn't even on PC.
 
My best guess is that Platinum might add some new DLC to Bayo 2 to go with the Bayonetta Amiibo. Something like the Captain Toad stuff.
 
a port of the first game would be nice so we could have a definitive version. nintendo can keep 2.

Why? Why would we need this? Bayo 1 already looks great on 360 and Wii U, and plays flawlessly too. We don't need more remasters or definitive editions of things. Bayo 2 first print editions had both games in one package, so count that as a definitive edition.
 
Why? Why would we need this? Bayo 1 already looks great on 360 and Wii U, and plays flawlessly too. We don't need more remasters or definitive editions of things. Bayo 2 first print editions had both games in one package, so count that as a definitive edition.

More options never hurt anyone. Bayonetta is one of the Sega games that would benefit most greatly from a PC port. Valkyria Chronicles practically found a second lease on life due to it.

As well, Playstation-only players are stuck with the worst version of the game at the moment. I think people generally wouldn't mind a PS4 port.

That's neither here nor there, but ports and remasters are not a bad thing at all. They exist to bring games to a wider audience and ensure they aren't trapped on older hardware forever.

Bayonetta 1 will be ported to PC someday, I'm sure of it. 2 I'm praying will show up on the NX, hopefully with the Wii U version of 1 as well.
 
Man I own the game and had a hell of a time with it, but I'd still be on board for a PS4 port. I know port begging can get annoying, but you have to understand not everyone is willing to buy a shit console just for one game. I'm glad Nintendo saved the project, but it's still an unfortunate situation in a way.

Why? Why would we need this? Bayo 1 already looks great on 360 and Wii U, and plays flawlessly too. We don't need more remasters or definitive editions of things. Bayo 2 first print editions had both games in one package, so count that as a definitive edition.

Both games with locked 60FPS and on an actually popular system would work as a more definitive edition for me too. Not gonna lie.
 
I'm not sure why if people really like the game why not buy the console for it. There's probably a few other games people are missing out on. To be honest I mostly play on pc. My Xbox currently collecting dust only bought it for halo. My PlayStation and vita is also collecting dust but I bought it for persona for both. My Wii u also collecting dust but it's only for Zelda and metroid with 3ds for dragon quest. They are all dead consoles to me since i bought them for only 1 or 2 exclusives. They get revived when somethings come out for them I want to play like bayoneta, bloodborn, or gears exclusive.
 
It's coming to PC one way or another, so I'm not overly concerned. Either way my Wii U copies will continue to function as long as my console does.

The original? Sure. I don't know why it's not on PC already.

They are not asinine. A sequel to a cult classic 360/PS3 game getting made exclusively for a console very few of the original fans have any intention of owning was always going to go badly. Not everyone is as stupid with their money as I am. A couple hundred dollars to play 1 game that you want is a big ask. There's still not even a new Metroid or new Zelda game to ease the pain. For a lot of gamers the Wii U was a giant swing and a miss.

They're not only asinine, they're juvenile. You want a game that badly you pony up the money. If you don't want to or can't do it, you act like an adult and move on with your life, preferably to one of the other dozens of video games out there. If you look at an entire console's library and decide that there is literally one game you can even bring yourself to play, you probably shouldn't be bothering with video games in the first place because you've got questionable tastes.

No one should be getting their feelings hurt over video games. The internet has made it too easy to facilitate the worst parts of gaming culture.
 
Exactly. Bayo 1 isn't even on PC.

Well, there are at least 4 ways it's on it's way to PC. 360 (Xenia), Wii U (Decaf and CEMU) and for a last resort PS3 (RPCS3). So Bayo 1 will probably have multiple options within a couple years. Bayo 2 is only Decaf and CEMU.
 
Might just be Inaba/Hashimoto speaking.

It's been on the schedule for a while btw, at least in the JPN release. I'm surprised noone noticed earlier
 
Can someone explain the rules to me?

I own Bayonetta 2 and a Wii U, but would still get ecstatic at a PS4 release - regardless of its likelihood. Does that constitute port begging?
 
Amen. I would be pissed off because I search hard for the Bayonetta 2 with Bayonetta 1 combo.

I think they meant it like "don't toy with my emotions" because they WANT the port.

As someone who bought the combo pack on launch day I would be THRILLED for a PS4 port. It would look phenomenal, that game has terrible aliasing.

I also am all for more people experiencing great games, it's a damn shame such an awesome game is stranded on such a low-selling system.

Of course, it's not happening.
 
The original? Sure. I don't know why it's not on PC already.

Bayonetta 2 will be playable on the PC through CEMU or Decaf within the next two years. It's coming to PC regardless of what Nintendo or Platinum decide to do.


They're not only asinine, they're juvenile. You want a game that badly you pony up the money. If you don't want to or can't do it, you act like an adult and move on with your life, preferably to one of the other dozens of video games out there. If you look at an entire console's library and decide that there is literally one game you can even bring yourself to play, you probably shouldn't be bothering with video games in the first place because you've got questionable tastes.

No one should be getting their feelings hurt over video games. The internet has made it too easy to facilitate the worst parts of gaming culture.

Or they can act like this is a message forum and rightfully point out that it's a terrible value proposition to buy a Wii U for the one game they are genuinely interested in.

I do cede you your last paragraph though as you apparently thinking you are the arbiter of taste around here pretty much demonstrates it.
 
Why? Why would we need this? Bayo 1 already looks great on 360 and Wii U, and plays flawlessly too. We don't need more remasters or definitive editions of things. Bayo 2 first print editions had both games in one package, so count that as a definitive edition.

you're wrong. the game doesn't have a definite version that runs at 60 without a single frame drop.
 
I think they meant it like "don't toy with my emotions" because they WANT the port.

As someone who bought the combo pack on launch day I would be THRILLED for a PS4 port. It would look phenomenal, that game has terrible aliasing.

I also am all for more people experiencing great games, it's a damn shame such an awesome game is stranded on such a low-selling system.

Of course, it's not happening.

What the hell is this? so now it's a shame that thanks to Nintendo we got a bayo 2?
 
Can someone explain the rules to me?

I own Bayonetta 2 and a Wii U, but would still get ecstatic at a PS4 release - regardless of its likelihood. Does that constitute port begging?

the bolded isn't even needed. that's the point

the only reason people get so antsy with Bayo 2 is people can't let it go. "hurr durr I know the chances is 0℅ b-b-but still!"

the sticking point is to port beg something that doesn't have a zero percent chance. ergo, go beg for something that isn't Bayonetta 2. and like why the fuck does it even matter if you have a Wii U and a copy of Bayonetta 2?
 
Some wounds never heal it seems.
Everyone should really buy the Wii U for the Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2 is just a nice bonus
 
What the hell is this? so now it's a shame that thanks to Nintendo we got a bayo 2?

I guess the two don't have to be mutually exclusive, which is what I think they're getting at, given the context of the post.

I'm thankful as hell the game exists and that the franchise was given a second chance, but I do think it's a shame its audience was limited so badly by its hardware. More people deserve to play it. So I think the best way of saying it is: Bayonetta 2 being an exclusive isn't a shame. The Wii U bombing and thus robbing many people of the chance to play Bayonetta 2 is a shame.

But I feel that about all of the great Wii U games. Mario Kart 8, Tropical Freeze, Smash Bros, Xenoblade X, Splatoon, etc. I know it's been said so many times before, but it'd be fantastic if the NX does well and ends up being a second-chance haven for many of those games. Bayonetta 2, and The Wonderful 101 as well.
 
I understand that people want a definitive experience of a great game, but it is stupid and annoying to always say "I want a port to [insert platform]" as these opinion are deviating from the topic and add nothing to the discussion. Besides, it's not like these ports are going to happen. If I were you, I would have shut up and paid for the other console or wait quietly for an eventual emulator on PC while many other people have already finished the game and gone to GAF to praise the developers for their hard work.
 
Nice! But I want this to mean something. I want an exciting announcement.

Some wounds never heal it seems.
Everyone should really buy the Wii U for the Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2 is just a nice bonus
Yep. Or vice versa, really. Both games are super impressive.
And the Wii U's library of exclusives is top quality.
 
I guess the two don't have to be mutually exclusive, which is what I think they're getting at, given the context of the post.

I'm thankful as hell the game exists and that the franchise was given a second chance, but I do think it's a shame its audience was limited so badly by its hardware. More people deserve to play it. So I think the best way of saying it is: Bayonetta 2 being an exclusive isn't a shame. The Wii U bombing and thus robbing many people of the chance to play Bayonetta 2 is a shame.

But I feel that about all of the great Wii U games. Mario Kart 8, Tropical Freeze, Smash Bros, Xenoblade X, Splatoon, etc. I know it's been said so many times before, but it'd be fantastic if the NX does well and ends up being a second-chance haven for many of those games. Bayonetta 2, and The Wonderful 101 as well.

You have this library of great games yet people don't want to buy the console to play them, then you hear the constant port begging for said games.

If people want to play these games so damn bad then perhaps they should buy the hardware because the hardware is the only means to play those games. You buy a console for games, not specs.
 
I shouldn't be, but I am honestly surprised by the thick smell of desperation and piss soiling this thread. I really thought people got over Bayonetta 2, and yet the slightest non-hint triggered an avalanche of port begging and emotional fragility.
It appears that I have a lot to answer for. I'm very sorry.
 
the bolded isn't even needed. that's the point

the only reason people get so antsy with Bayo 2 is people can't let it go. "hurr durr I know the chances is 0℅ b-b-but still!"

the sticking point is to port beg something that doesn't have a zero percent chance. ergo, go beg for something that isn't Bayonetta 2. and like why the fuck does it even matter if you have a Wii U and a copy of Bayonetta 2?

I have the Wii U, 360, and PS3 versions of the original Bayonetta. The more platforms it's on, the more I'll play it. I imagine a Xbone/PS4 port would have enhanced framerate and/or visuals... so that's an obvious reason to want it.

After REmake, RE0, Mass Effect, etc, have switched hands... and last year's E3 with TLG, Shenmue 3, and FF7 Remake,I don't know how certain you can be about 0% statements anymore in gaming.
 
You have this library of great games yet people don't want to buy the console to play them, then you hear the constant port begging for said games.

If people want to play these games so damn bad then perhaps they should buy the hardware because the hardware is the only means to play those games. You buy a console for games, not specs.

I agree with all of that, but I was talking in response to a specific post

I think they meant it like "don't toy with my emotions" because they WANT the port.

As someone who bought the combo pack on launch day I would be THRILLED for a PS4 port. It would look phenomenal, that game has terrible aliasing.

I also am all for more people experiencing great games, it's a damn shame such an awesome game is stranded on such a low-selling system.

Of course, it's not happening.

Which isn't port-begging, mentions already owning the game, and touches on the fact that the Wii U's bombing has potentially trapped many games (which will be a big issue for collectors going forth - just look at the secondhand Saturn market).

The context makes it clear that it's not port-begging. My post was trying to interpret the point that HotHamBoy was trying to make, which someone else had misconstrued.

People who actually are port-begging... Yeah, that's lame as hell. Don't do that. The fact that this thread just became port-begging and then talking about port-begging on a meta level is weird and shows that 4 years on, some hills are impossible for people to get over.

But I mean, generally speaking, not like I would advocate it or anything since I usually keep it to myself, but I can understand why buying a console for just a couple games isn't feasible for some people. Plunking down hundreds on a 360 just to play, say, Tales of Vesperia, a game I may or may not like and have lived without for this long... It's a big investment with risky gains. The Wii U also only became truly worth owning from a software perspective during an awkward period - 2014, when the PS4 and XB1 showed up with far more promising futures, and that software momentum crashed and burned in 2015 just as those other consoles hit their stride. I can see why potential buyers who took the wait-and-see approach were eventually dissuaded.

So basically, I'm not defending port begging at all. I think it's lame to do as a practice, but I

A) Understand that not everybody can buy every system, so I can emphasize with those who're genuinely interested but cannot access a game

B) As a Wii U owner, think it's a shame that to many, the hardware wasn't appealing enough to win people over compared to its contemporaries, thus preventing many games from finding an audience that could have liked them.
 
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