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Bayonetta 2 off to a slow start in Japan [Update: Week 2 sales]
- Thread starter SomewhatGroovy
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Fanart of that probably already exists.
They clearly didn't give a shit at all, instead we got halfassed ports like that insulting Dead Rising with the catchphrase "Running on RE4 engine!"
Well they were in a bad place to begin with, they bad with the good.
And really it's Sega, what did people expect from them?
The Wii did run MT Framework
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT_Framework
I believe the total sales of RE4 on the Wii were over 2 million. None of what you said explains why they didn't bring it to the console. Even if RE5 only sold 2 million as well, that would have been 2 million software more in profit.
Though, I think you've left the point in trying to justify Capoms actions. Having good sales on a Nintendo platform has rarely been treated by devs as a a reason to bring sequels to the system.
Sonic Colors did great on the Wii. It didn't get Generations. COD3 did well on the Wii. It didn't get MW1 until 2 came out, and never got 2. I could pull out examples like this all day. Sales and support don't necessarily go hand and hand.
Who could forget Resident Evil Dark Side Chronicle, the game no one asked for that we got because people bought the other RE game because they were so starved after RE4.
Stone Ocean
Member
Chances are Bayonetta will become a Sonic costume instead.
(lite)
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Or an unlockable in Total War / Football Manager
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Yeah, we're all going to switch to portable gaming because we share the same housing conditions and lifestyle as Japan.
Console warriors.
So? It still could have been used to bring RE5 to the Wii. Call of Duty was brought to the Wii just fine. Plenty of PS3/360 games were brougth to the Wii. All it required was a few reductions here and there, which is what a lite version is. Didn't prevent them from running.
The point is what I said above. Sales don't guarantee sequels or necessitate support.
lol.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Wii really showed actual tech proficient devs from the others.
Between the whole Infinity Wards going "Lol Wii" to 2-3 from Treyarch porting their games like no tomorrow.
I won't dispute that, I actually really liked it, but seriously it was in no way what we wanted.
Well it's not like there's anything on RE 5 that's fondamentally out of the league of the Wii, seriously it's not even openworld or something.
Since the market was there they could have provided something, heck they pushed a spin off on 3DS, even that would have been way better than what we got.
But they do. The very fact that Treyarch was allowed to go back to a then two-year old game and continue porting every single CoD afterwards up until seemingly this year means Activision was satisfied with the sales of these versions. Likewise, Sonic being so successful on Nintendo hardware made Sega sign a three-game exclusivity deal they have committed to even when trying to launch a new version of the franchise.
denshuu
Member
Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D is RE5 Mercenaries Mode with additional stages and characters from RE4. It looks fine.
So yes. He's right.
So how does this contradict my statement?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I don't normally buy console games full price, but I will be picking this up day one. Maybe it will help *shrug*
You are not addressing the argument I brought. I'm not talking about the cutter 3 Sonic games deal that have right now. I'm talking about Sonic Generation's not coming to the Wii following the success of Colors. I'm not talking about all of the Call of Duty's general support. I'm talking about MW1 not coming to the Wii on time after the success of 3 and 2 never coming. Why didn't those come.
Your original question to me was why isn't Monster Hunter 4G on the Wii U. Well, my answer is for the same reasons that the exact games I mentioned weren't on the Wii.
Sales don't necessitate sequels or support. Sure, they do sometimes, but they didn't there.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Can someone explain to me why this thread is 16 pages long? It can't just be port begging can it?
Cod MW Wii came out the same year of Cod MW2 for everyone else.
There wasn't a hole in the schedule for MW2 to come on Wii.
Every single year after MW 2 came out Wii got the current CoD game.
You'd be surprised.
That is all beside the point.
ninjablade
Banned
that's not exactly a fair comparisons, DMC killed an iconic character and replaced him with a punk rocker, it wasn't even made by capcom, it's not what i would call (what people wan't). people want amazing graphics and settings, cool character and descent story. just take a look at GOW3, it sold over 5 million copies, now look at bloodbourn, if that was a platinum game, with the signature platinum gameplay it would have sold great on 360/ps3.
Well you ask why MW2 didn't came out on Wii, well there wasn't a hole in the schedule for this port to fit in.
DMC wasn't exactly doing great when Ninja Theory rebooted it either.
About GoW....you do know that the last one didn't set the world on fire....
And Bloodburn have sony behind it, Bayonetta is never going to have that favour (as Sony rejected it).
Well, you have some people with a positive outlook related to Bayonetta 2 sales, some with a negative, and some that think this is being misinterpreted all around, like myself. They do not agree. Hence the thread length.
Generations didn't come to Wii because it was an anniversary game and by the time Colors proved to be successful there were just monts before release. So instead they got the Colors team to develop Lost World exclusively for the next-gen Nintendo console. Likewise MW1 used up MW2's slot. After that they were busy enough porting the newest game every year.
What's Capcom's excuse in these two years since 3G was released again?
Please, reread the posts. I don't like reposing things especially when they are on the same page.
I'm not debating why they did not come. I'm pointing out the simple fact that they didn't even though sales were good. The reasons could be anyone's guess.
That was a rhetorical question. That's why it ended with a "." and not a "?". Hence the rest what I said in the post you cut it out of.
Cod 2 only released on Xbox360, pc and mac.
What's your point with COD 2?
Also COD3 was Treyarch who never missed a Wii entry at all.
COD2 and 4 never came out because Infinity Ward, that's pretty much it.
the rest of IW games that came on Wii was really people at Treyarch having people dedicated to the Wii version every year.
What's your point?
IW never worked on Wii.
Half the posts are complaining about having sales talk and that we should be talking about playing the game instead. you know the one that isn't out anywhere but japan yet
I'm not debating this. See above. Its missing the entire point of what i was talking about and its derailing the thread which I want no part in.
So what's your point in bringing up CoD?
if it's
Well CoD certainly prove you wrong on that as the support came after the sales were pretty proven and guaranteed.
No. It was about like Monster Hunter 4G not coming to the Wii U even though Cacpom stated MH: 3G Ultimate on the Wii U was a "smash hit".
That was spun from me pointing out that games didn't need to sell millions to be a success in Japan like they do in the U.S., because MH: 3G Ultimate only sold 100k at launch in Japan.
That was an example to support my statement that Bayonetta 2 didn't needed to sell as much as people seem to think it did to be a success for Nintendo in Japan.
Ah, ok.
Still that's Capcom, they've done weirder things alright.
ok with that edit it makes sense.
Thinking about it, it really depends on what kind of cost we're looking, if it's B2 is really using the B1 engine with slight improvement they don't need that much to be profitable.
I mean we've got Suda 51 who's known for making games on a shoestring after all.
With P* history they probably know how to handle the budget or they'd be dead already.
Yes it does, and no, you don't want to click: http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/166221-why-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-will-suck/sonicetta-620x.jpg
ninjablade
Banned
DMC4 did 3 miilion, and gow ascension was a prequel and did good enough. i just want platinum to be successful, the only game that managed that was MGSR, and that one didn't have platinum's signature wacky art style.
Was Monster Hunter Tri a ground up HD game developed for the Wii U?
There's a reason they didn't make DMC5 and did DmC instead, profit most certainly have something to do with it.
GoW ascension was met with a collective meh from market to critics alike, is that due to the game not being that good or something, we'll see when the next game comes.
MGSR also had an exponentially bigger marketing campaign than anything P* ever did before. And that's also not a new IP like Bayonetta was.
If you want them to be successful, you either buy their games or wish they work on existing successful IP or wish they work on more marketable genre.
Nope, but neither would hypothetical MH4G
The thread has a "Told you so!" tone to it. Almost as if people are happy about the game tanking. I don't understand the sentiment myself. This isn't a case of a console maker snatching a previously multiplatform title for exclusivity ala Tomb Raider. The choices were Bayonetta 2 either exists on Wii U or it doesn't exist at all. It's why I'm not even bummed out by these sales. It's a goddamn miracle we're even getting the game.
Wrong. It did have the signature wacky art style and actually PG fans like them because of the wacky art style.
The only reason why MGR was a success is because it carries the MGS brandname.
Go to any mall and look at what most kids are playing their games on. Those kids are going to grow up, you know.