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Best and Worst additions to an existing cast in animated media? (Spoilers)
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crimzonflame
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Butters in South Park
Claude Kenni
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I liked Nia in TTGL.
Champion of the Wild
Neo Member
*first half of intro*
'oh i rmr this show!!"
*second half of intro*
"oh...i rmr this show...."
SatoAilDarko
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Absolutely agree.
Actually Sai and Kankuro earlier got one of the biggest moments given to the supporting when they both defeat Akatsuki members joining Shikamaru.
They logically defeat their final bosses of ultimate artist and ultimate puppeteer. It was rushed through but it was one of the few moments I liked Naruto post-Pain arc.
Yamato is the one who got fucked over. Dude gets kidnapped, becomes a human experiment and they basically forget about him. He reappearnce dropping out of White Zetsu was the biggest fuck you.
Actually what happened to both is due to the bigger mistake in Naruto and that was giving Sasuke every other arc. He's hilariously dumb and doesn't go through any character development.
He even gets his own team which do absolutely nothing even though fish guy had an actually interesting backstory.
There are hilariously dumped by Sasuke and in Boruto are given the worst possible person to work under as a troll.
I don't like Beerus either. His way stronger than the protagonists and hangs out with them. It feels like its hard to have a completely unbeatable situation when he's there and could stop it if he wanted.
After Soul Society was a mess. Ichigo straight up beats Kenpachi without Bankai yet everytime he comes back he's stronger.
It should focused on Ichigo and the five others in his "group".
I liked that Light won and L lost. The problem was that was too down an ending so they have Light lose by being double -teamed and by other's actions.
I was fine with him in small doses but that Luann relationship was horrible. Worst part of the show.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Larry
come on people, just type if your character is an example of best or worst, some of you are confusing me.
From recent memmory of worst chracter whatever her name was (I just remember her as Shark) from Re-Creators
She was kinda interesting I give her that but for whatever reason whenever she was on screen every other character in the area went full idiot mode and I hated that, in fact, by the end of season 1 everyone was acting so stupid that I lost my interest and never cared for season 2
From recent memmory of worst chracter whatever her name was (I just remember her as Shark) from Re-Creators
She was kinda interesting I give her that but for whatever reason whenever she was on screen every other character in the area went full idiot mode and I hated that, in fact, by the end of season 1 everyone was acting so stupid that I lost my interest and never cared for season 2
elrechazado
Banned
Can't believe nobody mentioned cousin Oliver from the Brady bunch. You guys know what that is right? Please?
/Old man
Oliver was terrible.
/Old man
Oliver was terrible.
Even the music hates him.
And of course, the original Poochie:
Scrappy Doo
As much as I hate Scrappy, I always found Scooby Dum far more intolerable
Generalpsyduck
Banned
Good guy Zuko is GOAT addition to the team.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Best and Worst additions to an existing cast in animated media?
As much as I hate Scrappy, I always found Scooby Dum far more intolerable
I dunno if you can count any post-Scrappies for Scooby-Doo, since the archetype had been set by him. Even if later additions were worse, they were just additional blows after the original sin.
elrechazado
Banned
Brady bunch manga...
Ryouji Gunblade
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Definitely Harley Quinn for best and Scrappy for worst. I swear I mentally block Scrappy from all my Scooby-Doo memories. Please tell me he didn't somehow appear in A Pup Named Scooby-Doo.
Poltergust
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I dunno about bad additions, but my favorite would have to be Ai Haibara from Detective Conan.
Introduced over 130 episodes into the series, Ai has been an essential part of the main cast since then. She works as a fantastic foil to Conan since, despite going through the same thing he is, she's not afraid to call him out when he acts like a buffoon. Her deductive skills are not as good, but she sometimes works as a Watson of sorts due to her extensive medical knowledge. She helps to keep the Detective Boys (a trio of actual kid friends to these two) a bit more grounded and is pretty good as a mentor figure for them. She's also been the focus of a bunch of fantastic arcs throughout the series.
By far one of my most favorite characters across any kind of media in general.
Introduced over 130 episodes into the series, Ai has been an essential part of the main cast since then. She works as a fantastic foil to Conan since, despite going through the same thing he is, she's not afraid to call him out when he acts like a buffoon. Her deductive skills are not as good, but she sometimes works as a Watson of sorts due to her extensive medical knowledge. She helps to keep the Detective Boys (a trio of actual kid friends to these two) a bit more grounded and is pretty good as a mentor figure for them. She's also been the focus of a bunch of fantastic arcs throughout the series.
By far one of my most favorite characters across any kind of media in general.
captainpat
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What a waste of an epic intro
Ordinaryundone
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Took the words right out of my mouth. If you feel like Mari is pandering then congratulations, you understood the point of the character. She's virulent, obvious pandering that anyone but the most shameless otaku can see right through. Also, its a more personal interpretation but I like to think she's also a riff on Evangelion Fan-fiction OC, like Wesley Crusher but more mean spirited. She's the unique, fun girl who has her own custom mech and comes from the west who literally falls from the sky onto Shinji's head. It's like a million of these self-insert cliches rolled into one. But then subverted in that she doesn't actually do anything of note and is mostly just set dressing. As if Anno was saying "Yeah, whatever, you can have your OC but this isn't their story, stay out of the way. You can't just magically fix everything with a new character".
Von Stroheim from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Battle Tendency.
Does Stroheim really count? I mean, that's like saying The Pillar Men were just added to the story because Santanna was there first. He's about as close as you can get to a main character and he's in the story longer than Caesar is.
Fancyarcher
Member
Yeah Tong is a great example, especially since his character didn't come off as a cheap attempt to add new "life" to the show or something. He was just introduced, and got his own mini-arc, fit right into the Avatar Airbender universe quite well.
Doesn't really count if you think about it, since it features an original cast, aside from Godzilla.
Scooby Dum was only in four episodes, and more of a guest character. He also a pretty good character in retrospect, being Scooby's "dimwitted cousin", who actually wanted to solve mystery. For a 1970's cartoon stock joke animal character, you could worse anyway.
Doesn't really count if you think about it, since it features an original cast, aside from Godzilla.
As much as I hate Scrappy, I always found Scooby Dum far more intolerable
Scooby Dum was only in four episodes, and more of a guest character. He also a pretty good character in retrospect, being Scooby's "dimwitted cousin", who actually wanted to solve mystery. For a 1970's cartoon stock joke animal character, you could worse anyway.
Conkersbadfurday
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I second these answers, though I'm of the opinion that Glim Glam is pretty awesome.My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic added essentially a seventh main pony character with Starlight Glimmer, who has had pretty consistently great focus episodes, but the character herself is still love-her-or-hate-her. So instead I'll focus on another character added to the supporting cast: the Great and Powerful Trixie. Trixie is a wandering stage magician who pretends to be a powerful wizard, boasting of her skills and making a show of everything. The type that refers to herself in third person. She was actually introduced back in season 1 for one episode and was popular then, leading to her returning for an episode in season 3, but they clearly struggled on how to make her work as a recurring character, leading to her third appearance not being until season 6 (minus Equestria Girls). But after that episode, she pretty quickly became a major recurring character.
In truth, though she was popular among fans, I didn't particularly like her much. She was kind of amusing, but there wasn't much to her character. Fans often portrayed her as a Vegeta-style rival to the main character, Twilight Sparkle, which is what her season 3 appearance went with, having her come back with an evil amulet to boost her power and fight her, but it just didn't work. However, when she came back in season 6, they paired her up with Starlight as hergirlfriendBEST FRIEND, and everything clicked. With both being former villains, Trixie could connect with her and thus could drop her guard, leading to great interactions and surprisingly natural dialogue between the two. She has also become more of a goofy character, which has done wonders for her.
PixelatedBookake
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Rohan was an amazing addition to the Part 4 cast of Jojo. I can't imagine what that story arc of Jojo would be like without the guy. Such a strange asshole. But really likable and entertaining.
Star Orpheus
Member
Have RWBY on my mind so for best I say Qrow.
While he's mentioned a few times in Volumes 1+2 it's only in Volume 3 where he officially joins the cast and we find out he's a perpetually drunk troll of a mentor.
While he's mentioned a few times in Volumes 1+2 it's only in Volume 3 where he officially joins the cast and we find out he's a perpetually drunk troll of a mentor.
These guys
I dunno if you're talking about best or worst, but they were in the same, singular movie.
They come in halfway through the movie as an addition to the cast. OP didn't mention that it couldn't be within a singular movie. And the answer is obviously worse. Once these people come in the movie completely changes in tone for the worse.
SoulUnison
Banned
My vote:
Ogiue from Genshiken
Your vote for what? Best or worst?
What a half-assed post. "Worst addition to an existing thread."
I kid, I kid.
Well the character name and series is under the picture you quoted it, however I did leave out best or worst. So best.
Edit: Ah you edited it
These guys
That movie would have been a masterpiece if all the humans were dead.
My vote goes to Neo.
PixelatedBookake
Junior Member
Who is evil Vegeta? Saiyan Saga Vegeta, Freeza Saga Vegeta, or Majin Vegeta?
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
Does Edward from Cowboy Bebop count?
If so, file that under best.
If so, file that under best.
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Conversely, pushing Tweek into the spotlight after Kenny "died" was a huge flop.
Best: the shinigami in Bleach.
Worst: everything else that came after SS arc. Including the vizards. None of them proved to be useful; instead, they were jobbers, incluiding Shinji and Kensei.
Another best example are the outer senshi in Sailor Moon, specifically Haruka and Michiru. It was great to have mature warriors who, while being sailor senshi too, were willing to do anything for accomplish their goal.
Worst: everything else that came after SS arc. Including the vizards. None of them proved to be useful; instead, they were jobbers, incluiding Shinji and Kensei.
Another best example are the outer senshi in Sailor Moon, specifically Haruka and Michiru. It was great to have mature warriors who, while being sailor senshi too, were willing to do anything for accomplish their goal.
Came for this and Scrappy. Was not dissapointed.
Exotoro
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There's a couple I can think of, hailing from one show:
Fern the Human was added in Season 8 of Adventure Time and is pretty much the focus of that season. You would think adding a violent clone of the main character would be a huge flop, but he really stands out as his own character and has a really cool design. A natural extension of the Grass Sword and Finn Sword plotlines, I think Fern was a really good addition to the cast for that season.
Likewise, Flame Princess. At first I kind of wasn't really on board with her character as pitting Finn up with a evil romantic partner seemed like more or less a repeat of Marceline's character arc but she really brought a lot to the show. Even after her arc has more or less ended, she still gets cool moments.
Fern the Human was added in Season 8 of Adventure Time and is pretty much the focus of that season. You would think adding a violent clone of the main character would be a huge flop, but he really stands out as his own character and has a really cool design. A natural extension of the Grass Sword and Finn Sword plotlines, I think Fern was a really good addition to the cast for that season.
Likewise, Flame Princess. At first I kind of wasn't really on board with her character as pitting Finn up with a evil romantic partner seemed like more or less a repeat of Marceline's character arc but she really brought a lot to the show. Even after her arc has more or less ended, she still gets cool moments.
Best:
Janna from Star vs the forces of evil
Upgrading her from a minor side character in season 1 to a full fledged supporting character in season 2 is one of the best decisions the show runners have made.
Amazing Choice
How could I forget about her?
She replaced the worst characters in the show and elevated it so much.
broncobuster
Banned
My vote:
Ogiue from Genshiken
She becomes so vital to Genshiken it took me a second to remember she wasn't always part of the cast.
Switch Back 9
a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
Frank becoming a regular on It's Always Sunny was the best thing to happen to that show. I can't imagine what it would look like without him.
Damn, y'all took all the good ones
Anyways, One Piece pretty much does this with a lot of characters, including obviously the people that end up joining Luffy's crew.
Since there's so many, I guess I'll give a special shoutout to is Robin due to how shocking it was at the same time:
She had randomly joined the crew despite being a (very recent at the time) antagonist. Both the Straw Hats (aside from Luffy) and viewers were understandably very skeptical of her intentions upon her joining. She quickly charmed most of them, but the audience remained skeptical, thinking she'd eventually betray them or something. Then we learned a lot more about her, in one of, if not the best arc in One Piece, and yea, she is quite beloved now. And since joining, she's been quite humorous too with her off-putting macabre sense of humor.
Honorable mention goes out to Law as well.
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I guess another good choice is Levi from Attack on Titan. I like his no-nonsense demeanor, how he's an incredibly adept fighter, and his quirk about hating germs.
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I can't really think of any examples of a terrible additions to a cast off the top of my head that hasn't already been listed. Well other than just saying Bleach again, but that'd be a pretty loooooooong list
Anyways, One Piece pretty much does this with a lot of characters, including obviously the people that end up joining Luffy's crew.
Since there's so many, I guess I'll give a special shoutout to is Robin due to how shocking it was at the same time:
She had randomly joined the crew despite being a (very recent at the time) antagonist. Both the Straw Hats (aside from Luffy) and viewers were understandably very skeptical of her intentions upon her joining. She quickly charmed most of them, but the audience remained skeptical, thinking she'd eventually betray them or something. Then we learned a lot more about her, in one of, if not the best arc in One Piece, and yea, she is quite beloved now. And since joining, she's been quite humorous too with her off-putting macabre sense of humor.
Honorable mention goes out to Law as well.
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I guess another good choice is Levi from Attack on Titan. I like his no-nonsense demeanor, how he's an incredibly adept fighter, and his quirk about hating germs.
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I can't really think of any examples of a terrible additions to a cast off the top of my head that hasn't already been listed. Well other than just saying Bleach again, but that'd be a pretty loooooooong list
Brewster123
Neo Member
For positive examples: Every character from Avatar: The Last Airbender. Not just Toph, even the villains, such as Azula, Tai Lee, and Mai, get fleshed out and become very interesting, memorable characters.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Best:
Janna from Star vs the forces of evil
Upgrading her from a minor side character in season 1 to a full fledged supporting character in season 2 is one of the best decisions the show runners have made.
Yup. Easily the smartest decision for that show.
Oh, I remembered an interesting one
Equuleus Subaru in Saint Seiya Omega for worst
After a turbulent first season Omega dediced to add Subaru to the Main cast, initially a Steel Saint, Subaru's ambitions to become a powerful God made him an obnoxious show off in constant need of pep talks.
What's worse is that while the main cast had some fantastic moments in season 1 they were still in dire need of growing up a bit more. Wolf Haruto, Aquila Yuna and Lionet Soma being the most affected.
But the addition of Subaru to the team made every episode "Main Character teaches Subaru an important lesson about being human" making characters literally freeze their development to help Subaru's
Subaru's ambitions end up taking the best him and making him turn his back on his friend to achieve -more like reclaim his lost-Godhood, making him the final villain of the show in a not so surprising twist
In the end all the lessons he learned do have an impact on him leading to his God form deciding to spare humanity, but at the cost of every other main character in the show.
Equuleus Subaru in Saint Seiya Omega for worst
After a turbulent first season Omega dediced to add Subaru to the Main cast, initially a Steel Saint, Subaru's ambitions to become a powerful God made him an obnoxious show off in constant need of pep talks.
What's worse is that while the main cast had some fantastic moments in season 1 they were still in dire need of growing up a bit more. Wolf Haruto, Aquila Yuna and Lionet Soma being the most affected.
But the addition of Subaru to the team made every episode "Main Character teaches Subaru an important lesson about being human" making characters literally freeze their development to help Subaru's
Subaru's ambitions end up taking the best him and making him turn his back on his friend to achieve -more like reclaim his lost-Godhood, making him the final villain of the show in a not so surprising twist
In the end all the lessons he learned do have an impact on him leading to his God form deciding to spare humanity, but at the cost of every other main character in the show.
Oh, just remembered a new one, Team Rocket's Mimikyu, owned by Jessie:
For those of you who are unfamiliar, it is a new Pokemon that got introduced with the latest games, Pokemon Sun & Moon. Its most notable quirk is that it hates Pikachus with a passion, due to the Pokemon's apparent popularity, to the point that it even attempted to mimic its appearance so that it can be beloved as well. This of course naturally applies to Ash's Pikachu as well, as Mimikyu loathes his very existence. And in general, Mimikyu is just very unsettling and creepy, even to Team Rocket. He's also surprisingly strong for a Pokemon owned by Team Rocket, so hey, good for them. Also it's pretty clever how his inclusion as a part of Team Rocket could be sort of considered as a monkey's paw type deal in regards to them finally obtaining a "Pikachu".
But yea, he's easily their best new Pokemon since Wobbufftet, and I hope he stays permanently. His presence has led to a bunch of interesting dynamics, with some of them being humorous, such as what happens to those unfortunate enough to see Mimikyu's real form.
Hint: It is not a good thing:
I'm pretty sure this is an ongoing running gag, as Meowth has already "died" at least three times (from what I've seen anyways) by accidentally seeing Mimikyu's real body.
For those of you who are unfamiliar, it is a new Pokemon that got introduced with the latest games, Pokemon Sun & Moon. Its most notable quirk is that it hates Pikachus with a passion, due to the Pokemon's apparent popularity, to the point that it even attempted to mimic its appearance so that it can be beloved as well. This of course naturally applies to Ash's Pikachu as well, as Mimikyu loathes his very existence. And in general, Mimikyu is just very unsettling and creepy, even to Team Rocket. He's also surprisingly strong for a Pokemon owned by Team Rocket, so hey, good for them. Also it's pretty clever how his inclusion as a part of Team Rocket could be sort of considered as a monkey's paw type deal in regards to them finally obtaining a "Pikachu".
But yea, he's easily their best new Pokemon since Wobbufftet, and I hope he stays permanently. His presence has led to a bunch of interesting dynamics, with some of them being humorous, such as what happens to those unfortunate enough to see Mimikyu's real form.
Hint: It is not a good thing:
I'm pretty sure this is an ongoing running gag, as Meowth has already "died" at least three times (from what I've seen anyways) by accidentally seeing Mimikyu's real body.