I also thing Smash 4 Zero Suit is the best one./QUOTE]
Brawl
Smash 4
The heels ruin it. It's needless and terrible.
Speaking of needless...
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Best and worst videogame character redesigns
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Speaking of needless...
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Brawl
Smash 4
The heels ruin it. It's needless and terrible.
I like the heels. I think they're cool. Also keeps ZSS at the top of the tier list
Her outfit in 2 vs 3 don't seem different enough to me that one would put one in the "best" category and the other in the "worst" category. What do you hate about 3 but are ok with in 2?
4 is obviously try-hard to the extreme
SixMachine
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In Vaan's case, being shirtless wasn't the problem, it was the textures of the abs that made him look like he hasn't eaten anything in 5 years, Freaking Skeletor had more developed abs than him. Lots of people like shirtless men such as Ryu, Conan, Goku, Kenshiro, etc. have been shirtless at one point or another, but they have to make it look good unlike this abomination.
You know what is really weird? Basch when he was in prison had better looking ab textures, I wonder how they fucked up Vaan so bad. You would think they would get the guy who is viewed as the face of the game a decent looking texture.
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ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Shion of Xenosaga evolved so many times:
Dunno about the Anime but 2nd is from Xenosaga 1, 3rd is from Xenosaga 2, 4th is from Xenosaga 3.
Basically worst, better, best.
Dunno about the Anime but 2nd is from Xenosaga 1, 3rd is from Xenosaga 2, 4th is from Xenosaga 3.
Basically worst, better, best.
I like the heels. I think they're cool. Also keeps ZSS at the top of the tier list
It's absurd objectification.
They're also ugly
In Vaan's case, being shirtless wasn't the problem, it was the textures of the abs that made him look like he hasn't eaten anything in 5 years, Freaking Skeletor had more developed abs than him. Lots of people like shirtless men such as Ryu, Conan, Goku, Kenshiro, etc. have been shirtless at one point or another, but they have to make it look good unlike this abomination.
His abs don't make any fucking sense. It looks like a carapace.
What stupid character.
Max Payne 1 had the constipated face thing going on. Amusing yes, but also kinda dumb.
I think he looks awesome in Max Payne 2. I still love the graphics of Max Payne 2 in general. They look great even today. Nothing to really add to 3. He goes bald and beard but in his American days with hair it's more or less Max from 2.
I think he looks awesome in Max Payne 2. I still love the graphics of Max Payne 2 in general. They look great even today. Nothing to really add to 3. He goes bald and beard but in his American days with hair it's more or less Max from 2.
Coreda
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That is so Guy Pearce.
Honest question - do you think that people who don't play the game could tell the difference between all those versions? Because to be frank, from number 1 through to 4 all I'm seeing is 'juvenile tit wank fantasy' in four different flavours. They all look fucking awful.
AlphaDragoon
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Good redesigns:
- Garou: MOTW Terry
- KOF post-98 Kyo
- KOF Tiger Stance Ryo
- REmake Jill
- RE4 Leon
- FFVII: Advent Children Cloud and Tifa
- MGS4 (and MGR) Raiden, even though I didn't hate the original
- DMC2 Dante
- FFTA2 Vaan
- FFXV: Kingsglaive Luna
- TR reboot Lara (still needs dual guns though)
- KH2 Sora
- Castlevania: SOTN Alucard
- FE: Awakening Roy
Worst redesigns:
- New Spyro
- FF Dissidia Squall
- New Banjo and Kazooie
- Non-Julia Voth inspired RE Jill (like Revelations)
- DmC Dante (the character itself looked great but it was not Dante)
- Xenosaga Ep. 3 Shion (who was a douche anyway so no big loss)
- Any version of Lightning after FFXIII (but again, was a douche regardless)
- Wild Arms Alter Code: F Rudy and Jack
- PSP Star Ocean 2 Rena (well, all of the cast really)
- Garou: MOTW Terry
- KOF post-98 Kyo
- KOF Tiger Stance Ryo
- REmake Jill
- RE4 Leon
- FFVII: Advent Children Cloud and Tifa
- MGS4 (and MGR) Raiden, even though I didn't hate the original
- DMC2 Dante
- FFTA2 Vaan
- FFXV: Kingsglaive Luna
- TR reboot Lara (still needs dual guns though)
- KH2 Sora
- Castlevania: SOTN Alucard
- FE: Awakening Roy
Worst redesigns:
- New Spyro
- FF Dissidia Squall
- New Banjo and Kazooie
- Non-Julia Voth inspired RE Jill (like Revelations)
- DmC Dante (the character itself looked great but it was not Dante)
- Xenosaga Ep. 3 Shion (who was a douche anyway so no big loss)
- Any version of Lightning after FFXIII (but again, was a douche regardless)
- Wild Arms Alter Code: F Rudy and Jack
- PSP Star Ocean 2 Rena (well, all of the cast really)
Iva Demilcol
Member
I think he looks pretty ridiculous and out of character tbh.
His Majesty
Banned
oh i forgot Patty from the Risen series
3 went a bit overboard
3 went a bit overboard
MoogleWizard
Member
Best:
Human to ape is the best?
i don't agree entirely, that outfit is instantly recognisable when someone does a cosplay, and i feel like the red climbing axe is slowly turning into Lara's 'iconic' tool. - and it works even better in combination with a basic wodden bow strapped around the chest.
Sure, the original Lara outfit has more recognisability among non-gamers, but that's an extraordinary phenomenon and i feel shouldn't been a creative shackle to anyone who tries to make a modern Tomb Raider game. Deviating from the "iconic beige hot pants and teal tank top" shouldn't be discouraged.
The urban camo pants in TR3, or the Angel of Darkness outfit, those were some bad Lara redesigns.
WaterAstro
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Spyro
Basketball
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Iconic red climbing axe
Reboot lara is dull as the games.
I don't see the issue with Ivy
That's like her character with her whip sword.
The Dom female look plus she has her colonial alts in every game.
Reboot lara is dull as the games.
I don't see the issue with Ivy
That's like her character with her whip sword.
The Dom female look plus she has her colonial alts in every game.
Scrooge McDuck
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I take it to mean that 1 --> 2 was the best redesign and 3 --> 4 was the worst transition.
Morrigan Stark
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I don't believe that. Him being a shirtless bishonen is what made people uncomfortable for the most part, that much is obvious. Not like bad textures were that noticeable in-game were they?
All these men are "manly men" and are considered acceptable to be shirtless. Effeminate pretty boys? Nope! xD
Not to mention, nonsensical anatomy has never stopped anyone from loving the hell out of female designs, sooooo
Earthpainting
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Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals is a DS reboot of Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals for the SNES. The entire cast got a redesign one of the key people that defined Square's art direction in the Playstation era: Yusuke Naora You'll probably be familiar with his work on FFVII, VIII, X, and countless other stuff titles that go as recent as FFXV. Now I'll fully admit I'm not a fan of his work, but then we have Lufia II, whose character designs I also dislike quite a lot. The original designs were done by Ryu Kurugami, whose only other credits I can find is a "Special Thanks" mention for a 16-bit football game by Neverland (developers of the Lufia games).
People generally aren't too fond of this remake, for mostly legitimate reasons, but the modernised redesigns really rub people the wrong way. Personally, I think they traded one form of bland for another. I do raise my eyebrow to redesigns where you can't recognise even a hint of the original character in the new version though.
Preach. I too have a hard time believing it, given my anecdotal experiences on the subject of Vaan. He might be a shallow husk of a character, but so are tons of other silent protagonists in the series. Vaan got a disproportionate amount of flack, and his appearance was usually the first thing that got brought up. Doesn't surprise me that people like him better now that he covered up.
The waifu we never knew.
Monocle
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Bayonetta! I love her look in the first game...
...but that chic haircut in Bayonetta 2 is ace.
...but that chic haircut in Bayonetta 2 is ace.
I can't separate the look from his dead personality in that game. I really don't like it very much at all, even though the outfit works aesthetically.DMC2 Dante looked fucking badass. Yeah, sure, the game was... not as good as 1, but come on. This is his best design by far.
And then he wore a belt over his nipples in the next one.
Ugh, seriously. She had a beautiful face in ME1. She was my first romance pick just because I liked her features and voice so much.Ashley from Mass Effect
Fbh
Member
Sure.
But in the context of the game Luna isn't presented as a pop celebrity trying to appeal to the sexual fantasy of her fans
3 is the best.
7 is looking pretty badass too,
But what about
I also like Shantae's redesigns.
Good:
There's nothing good about this first one. Look at her waist!
The second one is quite bland. I do like the newer ones.
Octavianus
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Because fur collars are awesomw no matter where you put them.
Anyway, I'm not too hard on Judgment because it's obvious they got Obata on board and just told him to go nuts and not give a f*ck. I'm amused by the sheer impudence of it all.
Melkezadek
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I'm so happy people seem to agree on the DMC2 costume. I always thought it was his best look.
As for something myself I think the redesign Rayman got for 3 was great. The Origins/Legends take made it perfect.
Gotta say, hard for me to pick a Link design I like more than Hyrule Warriors versus all the other ones.
100% agree!!
bobawesome
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Ashley from Mass Effect
If you didn't kill her off in 1 you were playing wrong.
His Majesty
Banned
I always kill off the boring other guy whose name I can't even remember.
SixMachine
Member
Yea the texture was really noticeable. Especially since most people probably ran around as him. Whenever someone saw me playing the game or one of my friends, they noticed that he looked like some spawn of Skeletor. You can actually find a lot of effeminate men being shirtless or having their mid riff exposed. I personally am a Benimaru from King of Fighters fan, and he is a popular character in the series too. Sephiroth had many scenes where he is shirtless and his default outfit has his chest open and he is pretty much the archetype of evil bishonen dude. The thing is it has to look good, he doesn't. A lot of people don't give passes to bad female designs today too. It's alright to like what you like, but I have never seen anyone say they like FF12 Vaan.
JB-the-Hunter
Member
I HATE Lara Croft's redesign.
My favorite is Brawl/Kid Icarus Uprising Pit.
My favorite is Brawl/Kid Icarus Uprising Pit.
It's absurd objectification.
They're also ugly
It's better than Other M when they did nothing. At least they have a function now.
It must have been something like that, because Obata's character designs in everything else of his that I've seen are nothing like that. The only manga of his I've seen that even approaches the crazy of those Judgment is Blue Dragon Ral Grad.
Jimnymebob
Member
I've always loved Kingdom Hearts Cid compared to his VII and AC designs.
Looks better cuz it got that tactics look but he looks youngerHere is Vaan, wearing a shirt.
Vlaphor
Member
Soul Calibur IV Ivy is, IMO, the best fighting game costume of all time. Your opinion may vary, but I just love how over the top it is. They had a clear goal and went at it whole hog, and made me a fan. I'm glad to see that this is considered the default costume for Ivy now (as seen in the Soul Calibur pachislot trailer).
Soul Calibur V Ivy just doesn't seem to make an attempt to impress. Mixing lace and latex like that just looks weird. Also, what is up with the the shin armor? At least we have the awesome 2p version designed by the creator of Bayonetta.
Megawarrior
Member
Yes it really was noticable. He was the only male in the game with that weird skeleton texture on his stomach . It looked gross.
Strangelove77
Member
Nah. They all kind of have the same motif. It's "big boob purple whip lady" no matter what.
But putting them side to side makes SC4 Ivy look ridiculous in comparison.
You're not going to catch flak from me, I love Zero's GBA design. Then again I adore the art style of those games anyways.
In Dead Space 3 it's supposed to be a transplant. You can see that her eye colors don't match. However nothing in that universe ever made me think that they'd have this kind of medical technology. Also, not much doubt that they just did it to make her look more appealing.
